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Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
But that was cool, because it was Obama…
Quote:Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints.
“We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that,” FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Nightline”.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many more than that,” said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. “And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me.”
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-k...d=20931131
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
(01-29-2017 03:38 PM)usmbacker Wrote: ![[Image: 4h2kw2.jpg]](http://i65.tinypic.com/4h2kw2.jpg)
But that was cool, because it was Obama…
Quote:Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints.
“We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that,” FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Nightline”.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many more than that,” said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. “And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me.”
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-k...d=20931131
I can't find the part about detaining Green Card holders indefinately on US soil without access to a lawyer and in direct violation of a Federal Court Order.
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
(01-29-2017 03:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:38 PM)usmbacker Wrote: ![[Image: 4h2kw2.jpg]](http://i65.tinypic.com/4h2kw2.jpg)
But that was cool, because it was Obama…
Quote:Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints.
“We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that,” FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Nightline”.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many more than that,” said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. “And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me.”
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-k...d=20931131
I can't find the part about detaining Green Card holders indefinately on US soil without access to a lawyer and in direct violation of a Federal Court Order.
It didn't...and this EO overstepped. That has been rectified by the judicial process..and it should have been.
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
(01-29-2017 03:52 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:38 PM)usmbacker Wrote: ![[Image: 4h2kw2.jpg]](http://i65.tinypic.com/4h2kw2.jpg)
But that was cool, because it was Obama…
Quote:Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints.
“We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that,” FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Nightline”.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many more than that,” said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. “And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me.”
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-k...d=20931131
I can't find the part about detaining Green Card holders indefinately on US soil without access to a lawyer and in direct violation of a Federal Court Order.
It didn't...and this EO overstepped. That has been rectified by the judicial process..and it should have been.
CBP is in open and direct violation of that order.
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
We can't let that get in the way of calling somebody a racist.
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
(01-29-2017 03:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:52 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:38 PM)usmbacker Wrote: ![[Image: 4h2kw2.jpg]](http://i65.tinypic.com/4h2kw2.jpg)
But that was cool, because it was Obama…
Quote:Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints.
“We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that,” FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Nightline”.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many more than that,” said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. “And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me.”
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-k...d=20931131
I can't find the part about detaining Green Card holders indefinately on US soil without access to a lawyer and in direct violation of a Federal Court Order.
It didn't...and this EO overstepped. That has been rectified by the judicial process..and it should have been.
CBP is in open and direct violation of that order.
Nope. They were detained...not deported. Nothing wrong with detaining them legally. Either the WH was trying to get away with until someone called their hand or they simply f,ed up. I doubt we see any more of these people detained without very good reason.
(This post was last modified: 01-29-2017 03:59 PM by Fo Shizzle.)
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Tom in Lazybrook
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
(01-29-2017 03:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:52 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:38 PM)usmbacker Wrote: ![[Image: 4h2kw2.jpg]](http://i65.tinypic.com/4h2kw2.jpg)
But that was cool, because it was Obama…
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-k...d=20931131
I can't find the part about detaining Green Card holders indefinately on US soil without access to a lawyer and in direct violation of a Federal Court Order.
It didn't...and this EO overstepped. That has been rectified by the judicial process..and it should have been.
CBP is in open and direct violation of that order.
Nope. They were detained...not deported. Nothing wrong with detaining them legally. Either the WH was trying to get away with until someone called their hand or they simply f,ed up. I doubt we see any more of these people detained without very good reason.
Why are people still in detention with no access to lawyers?
And what about green card holders who cannot get to the US?
Actually - I have a solution for US green card holders..they should just fly to Mexico and walk across the border. Mexico allows visa free entry for persons with US visas.
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Tom in Lazybrook
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
Trump is watching a friggin' movie right now. Wow. DJT is watching "Finding Dory"
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
(01-29-2017 03:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:38 PM)usmbacker Wrote: ![[Image: 4h2kw2.jpg]](http://i65.tinypic.com/4h2kw2.jpg)
But that was cool, because it was Obama…
Quote:Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints.
“We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that,” FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Nightline”.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many more than that,” said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. “And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me.”
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-k...d=20931131
I can't find the part about detaining Green Card holders indefinately on US soil without access to a lawyer and in direct violation of a Federal Court Order.
Agreed.
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
(01-29-2017 03:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:38 PM)usmbacker Wrote: ![[Image: 4h2kw2.jpg]](http://i65.tinypic.com/4h2kw2.jpg)
But that was cool, because it was Obama…
Quote:Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints.
“We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that,” FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Nightline”.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many more than that,” said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. “And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me.”
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-k...d=20931131
I can't find the part about detaining Green Card holders indefinately on US soil without access to a lawyer and in direct violation of a Federal Court Order.
Where is that part in the EO?
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
I must have over looked that in this order as well.
Funny part is they used much of the same language as was in Bo-Bo's.
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
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RE: Flashback: Obama Stopped Immigration From Iraq For 6 Months
(01-29-2017 03:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (01-29-2017 03:38 PM)usmbacker Wrote: ![[Image: 4h2kw2.jpg]](http://i65.tinypic.com/4h2kw2.jpg)
But that was cool, because it was Obama…
Quote:Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.
The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints.
“We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that,” FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News’ “World News with Diane Sawyer” and “Nightline”.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if there were many more than that,” said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. “And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me.”
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-k...d=20931131
I can't find the part about detaining Green Card holders indefinately on US soil without access to a lawyer and in direct violation of a Federal Court Order.
Yea, cause we didn't. Apparently we waved 'em on through and set them up in Bowling Green, Ky. Far better outcome, no?
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