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(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.
Crass comment not surprised it is from you. You are always lowest common denominator in every discussion.
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(01-28-2017 10:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:15 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Why do people want a bunch of muslim refugees in the USA?

Personally? Because America is a nation of immigrants, those people are likely facing death if they stay, and frankly, its the right thing to do.

No, it isn't. Knowing what has happened to Sweden, Germany, England, and Belgium, how can you still say that you want the same thing? It doesn't make you more virtuous. Stop pretending.


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(01-28-2017 10:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.
Crass comment not surprised it is from you. You are always lowest common denominator in every discussion.

you can't handle the truth. back in 1939 we didn't have the context in hindsight of knowing Hitlers plans for a final solution. also the current refugee crisis is the biggest refugee crisis to hit the west since WWII. So I think that comparison is 100% valid. but hey if facts are "crass comments" from you then so be it.
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(01-28-2017 10:23 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:22 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:11 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:10 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  It's not being bigoted or racist. It's about antagonizing the opposition/pleasing his base. Maintaining both the unquestioning hate/unquestioning love.

so kinda like what George Wallace did?
The Democrat George wallace

The conservative George Wallace.

Who just happened to be...wait for it...Democrat. 07-coffee3

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RE: Trump's latest executive order causes chaos at US airports
(01-28-2017 10:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.
Crass comment not surprised it is from you. You are always lowest common denominator in every discussion.

....and I don't recall the Jews strapping bombs to themselves and killing innocent people because they were not Jews.
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(01-28-2017 10:28 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.
Crass comment not surprised it is from you. You are always lowest common denominator in every discussion.

....and I don't recall the Jews strapping bombs to themselves and killing innocent people because they were not Jews.

nah. we had something far worse. 1930s era anti-semitism and racism.
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(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.

You mean the Jews that were denied asylum by Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt? 07-coffee3


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(01-28-2017 10:31 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.

You mean the Jews that were denied asylum by Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt? 07-coffee3


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jesus F*** that's the second time we've seen a con go out of their way to point out someone was a dem in the last couple posts.
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(01-28-2017 10:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.
Crass comment not surprised it is from you. You are always lowest common denominator in every discussion.

you can't handle the truth. back in 1939 we didn't have the context in hindsight of knowing Hitlers plans for a final solution. also the current refugee crisis is the biggest refugee crisis to hit the west since WWII. So I think that comparison is 100% valid. but hey if facts are "crass comments" from you then so be it.
Hyperbole using the holocaust is crass and indicative of a limited capacity for rational discussuon.
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(01-28-2017 10:32 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:31 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.

You mean the Jews that were denied asylum by Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt? 07-coffee3


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jesus F*** that's the second time we've seen a con go out of their way to point out someone was a dem in the last couple posts.

07-coffee3


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(01-28-2017 10:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.
Crass comment not surprised it is from you. You are always lowest common denominator in every discussion.

you can't handle the truth. back in 1939 we didn't have the context in hindsight of knowing Hitlers plans for a final solution. also the current refugee crisis is the biggest refugee crisis to hit the west since WWII. So I think that comparison is 100% valid. but hey if facts are "crass comments" from you then so be it.
Hyperbole using the holocaust is crass and indicative of a limited capacity for rational discussuon.

having zero response to the legitimate comparisons to it is indicative of a limited capacity for rational discussion.
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(01-28-2017 10:33 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:32 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:31 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I'm trying to find the part of the constitution that guarantees citizenship to everyone in the world

I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.

You mean the Jews that were denied asylum by Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt? 07-coffee3


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jesus F*** that's the second time we've seen a con go out of their way to point out someone was a dem in the last couple posts.

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(01-28-2017 10:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:15 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Why do people want a bunch of muslim refugees in the USA?

Personally? Because America is a nation of immigrants, those people are likely facing death if they stay, and frankly, its the right thing to do.

Is American the closes country? If not why fly half way around the globe?
Is American the only country?
Is American suppose to protect everyone in the world?

Should American tax dollars be spent to support these people just because they might face death? Which you really don't have a clue if they would or wouldn't. Just what the media shows you?
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(01-28-2017 10:34 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  I'm sure someone made that very same comment back when we were denying boatloads of Jews from US ports during the Holocaust.
Crass comment not surprised it is from you. You are always lowest common denominator in every discussion.

you can't handle the truth. back in 1939 we didn't have the context in hindsight of knowing Hitlers plans for a final solution. also the current refugee crisis is the biggest refugee crisis to hit the west since WWII. So I think that comparison is 100% valid. but hey if facts are "crass comments" from you then so be it.
Hyperbole using the holocaust is crass and indicative of a limited capacity for rational discussuon.

having zero response to the legitimate comparisons to it is indicative of a limited capacity for rational discussion.
Illegitimate comparison. Simple. Where in the constitution does it say everyone in the world has the right to be a United States citizen.

You go full holocaust due to an inability to recognize reality. You are why Trump won. Well done. Look in the mirror and know he is in office due to people that think as you do.
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(01-28-2017 10:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:15 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Why do people want a bunch of muslim refugees in the USA?

Personally? Because America is a nation of immigrants, those people are likely facing death if they stay, and frankly, its the right thing to do.

Is American the closes country? If not why fly half way around the globe?
Is American the only country?
Is American suppose to protect everyone in the world?

Should American tax dollars be spent to support these people just because they might face death? Which you really don't have a clue if they would or wouldn't. Just what the media shows you?
They leftist never mention the Christians why is that?
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Let the Canucks take them until we can get a handle on the vetting.
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(01-28-2017 10:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:15 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Why do people want a bunch of muslim refugees in the USA?

Personally? Because America is a nation of immigrants, those people are likely facing death if they stay, and frankly, its the right thing to do.

Is American the closes country? If not why fly half way around the globe?
Is American the only country?
Is American suppose to protect everyone in the world?

Should American tax dollars be spent to support these people just because they might face death? Which you really don't have a clue if they would or wouldn't. Just what the media shows you?

Yep, and in 20-30 years when you retire, your social security and Medicare are going to have to be cut, because "we're broke". Sorry.
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(01-28-2017 10:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:34 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:27 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Crass comment not surprised it is from you. You are always lowest common denominator in every discussion.

you can't handle the truth. back in 1939 we didn't have the context in hindsight of knowing Hitlers plans for a final solution. also the current refugee crisis is the biggest refugee crisis to hit the west since WWII. So I think that comparison is 100% valid. but hey if facts are "crass comments" from you then so be it.
Hyperbole using the holocaust is crass and indicative of a limited capacity for rational discussuon.

having zero response to the legitimate comparisons to it is indicative of a limited capacity for rational discussion.
Illegitimate comparison. Simple. Where in the constitution does it say everyone in the world has the right to be a United States citizen.

You go full holocaust due to an inability to recognize reality. You are why Trump won. Well done. Look in the mirror and know he is in office due to people that think as you do.

you scoff at the legitimate comparisons to it for the very same reason. if it is illegitimate then explain why. you haven't done so because you can't.
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(01-28-2017 10:42 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:36 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:23 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:15 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Why do people want a bunch of muslim refugees in the USA?

Personally? Because America is a nation of immigrants, those people are likely facing death if they stay, and frankly, its the right thing to do.

Is American the closes country? If not why fly half way around the globe?
Is American the only country?
Is American suppose to protect everyone in the world?

Should American tax dollars be spent to support these people just because they might face death? Which you really don't have a clue if they would or wouldn't. Just what the media shows you?

Yep, and in 20-30 years when you retire, your social security and Medicare are going to have to be cut, because "we're broke". Sorry.

I'm 57 (self employed since age 17) and retired 3.5 years ago so I could follow Western's basketball and football to every game. Road and away. So far I've logged over 137,000 miles (driving) doing it.

But I get your point and have a feeling that will be the case for both of my sons (22,26)
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I think this all boils down to this:

1. We do need to get some issues straight with security and immigration.
2. Did it need to be so heavy handed?
3. Did it have to include permanent residents, education visas, and so on?
4. Why was the physical and financial home of Wahhabism (the movement responsible for Muslim extremism), Saudi Arabia, not included?
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