Quote:Observant Sikhs and conservative Muslim women are now able to wear religious head coverings, thanks to a directive issued Tuesday that updates the Army's grooming and appearance regulation.

Sikh soldiers also are allowed to maintain their beards, according to the update.

Soldiers will still have to submit their requests for brigade-level approval, but the move opens up service to people who otherwise would have had to abandon cherished religious practices to serve.

Since 2009, religious accommodation requests received by the Army have largely been from soldiers wanting to wear a hijab or a Sikh turban or patka with uncut beard and hair, according to the directive.

"Based on the successful examples of soldiers currently serving with these accommodations," Army Secretary Eric Fanning wrote in the directive, he decided to move forward with those accommodations as long as the colors match the uniform of the day.

https://www.armytimes.com/articles/new-a...ous-beards

Sikhs are bad ass and loyal people. They also hate Kebab. The military needs more Sikhs and let fat ass whites and blacks.

Sounds fine to me. This is the right thing to do.

If they are fighting on our side, I have no problem with this.

Camo turbans would be awesome.

Lot of racist Trump voters in this thread.

(01-06-2017 11:29 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Camo turbans would be awesome.

(01-06-2017 11:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 11:29 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Camo turbans would be awesome.

not going to lie, that looks pretty badass... but the Marine in me doesnt like it. There is a reason why we have uniform regulations. They are not a fashion statement.

I have no problem with this as long as it doesn't interfere with their ability to fight.

meh... I would prefer not *but* I'm not going to get in a twist over this.

(01-06-2017 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I have no problem with this as long as it doesn't interfere with their ability to fight.

Dude, Sikhs go looking for fights..........

The only potential problem I could see would be if the beard were to interfere with getting a proper seal on the gas mask. I know that FD studies have shown that you can get a seal with SCBA masks if you have a beard but it becomes a lot easier to break the seal with a beard than without.

I don't have a problem with it, at all.

(01-06-2017 12:16 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I have no problem with this as long as it doesn't interfere with their ability to fight.

Dude, Sikhs go looking for fights..........

The real takeaway of this thread was that UTSA thought you all were going to be behind him on this but nobody blamed Obama and no one blamed those damn liberals.

You left your boy out on a limb.

(01-06-2017 12:08 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 11:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 11:29 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Camo turbans would be awesome.

not going to lie, that looks pretty badass... but the Marine in me doesnt like it. There is a reason why we have uniform regulations. They are not a fashion statement.

Yea the only thing that bothers me is that the theory behind a lot of the uniform and behavioral regs is to make everyone "the same" in a unit. Tear you down and build you up as a soldier.

But.... Given the amount of shaq they are throwing at the military this is hardly where I want to spend my powder.

(01-06-2017 12:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:16 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I have no problem with this as long as it doesn't interfere with their ability to fight.

Dude, Sikhs go looking for fights..........

The real takeaway of this thread was that UTSA thought you all were going to be behind him on this but nobody blamed Obama and no one blamed those damn liberals.

You left your boy out on a limb.

Because conservatives and libertarians actually create a larger tent than progressives we sometimes see disagreement. In those instances we don't go right to demonizing the other person or their posistion,

(01-06-2017 12:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:16 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I have no problem with this as long as it doesn't interfere with their ability to fight.

Dude, Sikhs go looking for fights..........

The real takeaway of this thread was that UTSA thought you all were going to be behind him on this but nobody blamed Obama and no one blamed those damn liberals.

You left your boy out on a limb.

*PLOT TWIST* read the bold part...



another fit fail

(01-06-2017 12:21 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:08 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 11:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 11:29 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Camo turbans would be awesome.

not going to lie, that looks pretty badass... but the Marine in me doesnt like it. There is a reason why we have uniform regulations. They are not a fashion statement.

Yea the only thing that bothers me is that the theory behind a lot of the uniform and behavioral regs is to make everyone "the same" in a unit. Tear you down and build you up as a soldier.

But.... Given the amount of shaq they are throwing at the military this is hardly where I want to spend my powder.

thats the main reason why I am against it.

(01-06-2017 12:26 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:21 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:08 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 11:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 11:29 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Camo turbans would be awesome.

not going to lie, that looks pretty badass... but the Marine in me doesnt like it. There is a reason why we have uniform regulations. They are not a fashion statement.

Yea the only thing that bothers me is that the theory behind a lot of the uniform and behavioral regs is to make everyone "the same" in a unit. Tear you down and build you up as a soldier.

But.... Given the amount of shaq they are throwing at the military this is hardly where I want to spend my powder.

thats the main reason why I am against it.

Why would the military feel the need to tear someone down on a religious level?

(01-06-2017 12:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:26 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:21 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 12:08 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-06-2017 11:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

not going to lie, that looks pretty badass... but the Marine in me doesnt like it. There is a reason why we have uniform regulations. They are not a fashion statement.

Yea the only thing that bothers me is that the theory behind a lot of the uniform and behavioral regs is to make everyone "the same" in a unit. Tear you down and build you up as a soldier.

But.... Given the amount of shaq they are throwing at the military this is hardly where I want to spend my powder.

thats the main reason why I am against it.

Why would the military feel the need to tear someone down on a religious level?

no one said such a thing...