(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 05:25 PM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 01:40 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 01:36 PM)GeminiShamrock Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  This story was posted because in Trump's America, there is a hatred for teachers and education as a whole.

The new normal in Trump's America.

My wife voted for Trump, and she's a teacher. Your logic is flawed. Please try again.

Where did I say anything about anyone who voted for Trump?

You said "this story was posted because in Trump's America, there is a hatred for teachers and education as a whole." One could see that as Trump hates teachers.

I mentioned that my wife is a teacher and she voted for Trump. Evidently, she disagrees with your logic.

NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Wrong. There is every reason to believe otherwise.

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

Fit's in the education business so he tries to defend it.........even when it's indefensible. The result is he appears stupid.......but we already knew that!

(12-30-2016 01:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Unless he did this to children that he knew at school, his occupation is irrelevant. He could be a fork lift operator for all I care. His actions are still just as evil.

I'm sure we will never know for sure but... The fact there were *8* of them and that the teachers were *mentors* and they taught at the same school really points to the classroom...

"Priest molest boys" where do you suppose that in 99.9999% of the cases this trusted adult gets access?

"Teacher molest boys" where do you suppose that in 99.9999% of the cases this trusted adult gets access?

(01-02-2017 10:17 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

Fit's in the education business so he tries to defend it.........even when it's indefensible. The result is he appears stupid.......but we already knew that!

Fit has a long history of trying to both deny there is a trend of pedophilia in the teaching profession and trying to rationalize it. Just go take a look at the long "It's an epidemic" thread on the subject and see for yourself.

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

And you have evidence of this? Let's see it.

(01-02-2017 10:17 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

Fit's in the education business so he tries to defend it.........even when it's indefensible. The result is he appears stupid.......but we already knew that!

And yet he thinks anyone who questions the education system is stupid.

(01-02-2017 11:40 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 10:17 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

Fit's in the education business so he tries to defend it.........even when it's indefensible. The result is he appears stupid.......but we already knew that!

Fit has a long history of trying to both deny there is a trend of pedophilia in the teaching profession and trying to rationalize it. Just go take a look at the long "It's an epidemic" thread on the subject and see for yourself.

I have never denied that there is a trend of pedophilia in the teaching profession.

What I have denied is that there is conclusive evidence that pedophiles obtain teaching credentials in order to have access to children.

I still haven't seen anyone here post evidence that this person molested his students.

His students... someone else's students... still don't know what the hell twisted point you're trying to make.

(12-31-2016 09:06 PM)Crebman Wrote:  I just believe that pedos have some genetic wires crossed and will never be rehabilitated.......and what they have done to a child - they don't deserve to ever see the light of day.

I said nothing about rehabilitation or release. I said learning about their mental disease, so as to create better models and better understanding about possibly screening for it.

(01-01-2017 08:32 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  and that greed is probably the source of most of our education problems.

I'd go with "problems in the household", myself. Kids usually start out good, without hatred and willing to learn new things. But if there are problems in the household, it makes it tough.

(01-02-2017 01:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

And you have evidence of this? Let's see it.

Right after you show us evidence the russians hacked the dnc and release the emails..

(01-02-2017 04:19 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 01:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

And you have evidence of this? Let's see it.

Right after you show us evidence the russians hacked the dnc and release the emails..

Yup that's what I thought.

Trump's America

(01-02-2017 05:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 04:19 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 01:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

And you have evidence of this? Let's see it.

Right after you show us evidence the russians hacked the dnc and release the emails..

Yup that's what I thought.

(01-02-2017 05:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 04:19 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 01:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  NO. What I meant about saying we live in Trump's America is that people don't care about the facts.

There is no indication that these monsters raped people from the school where he was employed and yet posters on this forum seem to care more about the fact that he was a teacher.

That is typical of Trump's America

Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

And you have evidence of this? Let's see it.

Right after you show us evidence the Russians hacked the dnc and release the emails..

Yup that's what I thought.

So that's a no then? You have differing standards of evidence?

Ok here, I'll give you proof it was their role as teachers, even though you've no evidence that the evil russians were working for trump..

Quote:The first accuser told police that Babbitt was his former elementary school teacher, volunteer work supervisor and mentor. The boy reported that Babbitt had agreed to be a mentor for him when he came out as gay to his family and that the teacher gave him gifts of underwear and yoga shorts and also asked for photos before he was 16.

IOW this teacher likely groomed this kid. When the kid came out he pounced...

(01-02-2017 09:12 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 05:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 04:19 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 01:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 11:37 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  Just where do you suppose they met these children? Both were employed at a school. How do you think they became a "mentor" to one of the victims? Usually this happens in a school setting. Correct me if I am wrong.

And you have evidence of this? Let's see it.

Right after you show us evidence the Russians hacked the dnc and release the emails..

Yup that's what I thought.

So that's a no then? You have differing standards of evidence?

Ok here, I'll give you proof it was their role as teachers, even though you've no evidence that the evil russians were working for trump..

Quote:The first accuser told police that Babbitt was his former elementary school teacher, volunteer work supervisor and mentor. The boy reported that Babbitt had agreed to be a mentor for him when he came out as gay to his family and that the teacher gave him gifts of underwear and yoga shorts and also asked for photos before he was 16.

IOW this teacher likely groomed this kid. When the kid came out he pounced...

First of all, I never said that Trump was working with the Russians.

Second of all, so he didn't molest him while he was a teacher?

(01-02-2017 09:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  First of all, I never said that Trump was working with the Russians.

I meant that as a joke, but you should report me just to be safe...

I would bet, and this is not a joke, you are pretty sure it was the russians who hacked the DNC and released the info. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

(01-02-2017 09:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Second of all, so he didn't molest him while he was a teacher?

He was a teacher at the time he molested him, just not *his* teacher.
But he was *his* teacher when he started grooming him....

(01-02-2017 09:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 09:12 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 05:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 04:19 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 01:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  And you have evidence of this? Let's see it.

Right after you show us evidence the Russians hacked the dnc and release the emails..

Yup that's what I thought.

So that's a no then? You have differing standards of evidence?

Ok here, I'll give you proof it was their role as teachers, even though you've no evidence that the evil russians were working for trump..

Quote:The first accuser told police that Babbitt was his former elementary school teacher, volunteer work supervisor and mentor. The boy reported that Babbitt had agreed to be a mentor for him when he came out as gay to his family and that the teacher gave him gifts of underwear and yoga shorts and also asked for photos before he was 16.

IOW this teacher likely groomed this kid. When the kid came out he pounced...

First of all, I never said that Trump was working with the Russians.

Second of all, so he didn't molest him while he was a teacher?

Yes he was.

Still don't have any idea why you keep trying to differentiate whether a kid was a student of his or not.

(01-02-2017 09:58 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 09:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  First of all, I never said that Trump was working with the Russians.

I meant that as a joke, but you should report me just to be safe...

I would bet, and this is not a joke, you are pretty sure it was the russians who hacked the DNC and released the info. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

(01-02-2017 09:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Second of all, so he didn't molest him while he was a teacher?

He was a teacher at the time he molested him, just not *his* teacher.
But he was *his* teacher when he started grooming him....

I believe the CIA and FBI and the 27 other organizations that say it was likely the russians.

As for the grooming? How exactly was he grooming him and how much time took place between the time he was grooming the kid and when he molested him?

(01-02-2017 10:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 09:58 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 09:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  First of all, I never said that Trump was working with the Russians.

I meant that as a joke, but you should report me just to be safe...

I would bet, and this is not a joke, you are pretty sure it was the russians who hacked the DNC and released the info. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

(01-02-2017 09:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Second of all, so he didn't molest him while he was a teacher?

He was a teacher at the time he molested him, just not *his* teacher.
But he was *his* teacher when he started grooming him....

I believe the CIA and FBI and the 27 other organizations that say it was likely the russians.

As for the grooming? How exactly was he grooming him and how much time took place between the time he was grooming the kid and when he molested him?

Care to name the 27.

(01-02-2017 10:03 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 10:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 09:58 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-02-2017 09:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  First of all, I never said that Trump was working with the Russians.

I meant that as a joke, but you should report me just to be safe...

I would bet, and this is not a joke, you are pretty sure it was the russians who hacked the DNC and released the info. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

(01-02-2017 09:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Second of all, so he didn't molest him while he was a teacher?

He was a teacher at the time he molested him, just not *his* teacher.
But he was *his* teacher when he started grooming him....

I believe the CIA and FBI and the 27 other organizations that say it was likely the russians.

As for the grooming? How exactly was he grooming him and how much time took place between the time he was grooming the kid and when he molested him?

Care to name the 27.

I was joking. I guess you are going to have to report me too.