Everybody already said most of the things I was going to say. A couple more:

Why were we so desperate to launch 3s the last couple minutes, particularly the last two possessions when we were down 2. I understand if you're open, but both Bravo-Harriot and Rokkanen forced 3s, and neither even caught rim.

Cullop needs to stop this little game of starting our third-string center, then bringing in our second-string center a couple minutes into the game, then bringing in our first-string center toward the end of the first quarter. I realize that Cullop knows a whole lot more about basketball and about her team than I do, but how does this possibly make sense? Against Detroit, Rasmussen left the game after three minutes with two fouls and never returned. Today, she left after three minutes with a missed layup and a turnover, and she never returned.

I can't think of a single player who played well today. Cunningham had a good first half. I'm glad to see Rokkanen getting minutes since she's offensive-minded.

Biggest concern is Janice, of course.

I apologize for not reading this thread thru before posting, but my current frustration level just won't let me do so right now, but I will assume that most of what needs to be said has already been said. Still, I will not be deterred from saying that:

Having followed the Lady Rockets for over 30 years, off the top of my head I can not recall a more dismal offensive performance from the tip-off to to the final buzzer from them (or maybe any other collegiate team) than the one we witnessed today. I think that those 5th grade kids who played that mini-game during the half time of the men's game last night had a better shooting percentage and probably made more lay ups in their 7 (or so) minute game than the Lady Rockets made in 40 minutes. The matter was compounded by the fact that those shooting the worse today took the most shots.

The fact that the game was still winnable at the one minute mark (from the end) is a tribute to the fact the Rockets continued to play defense for most of the game or they would have lost by 40 points. As long as they continue to play D, there is always hope...that and knowing that it should be impossible to ever have another offensive game as bad and totally awful as this one was.

ONLY bright spot was defensive intensity-when you force thirty TOs you should NEVER lose. Great adjustment doubling their big in the first half. Otherwise, squat.

(12-31-2016 02:24 PM)Dwight Wrote:  Everybody already said most of the things I was going to say. A couple more:

Why were we so desperate to launch 3s the last couple minutes, particularly the last two possessions when we were down 2. I understand if you're open, but both Bravo-Harriot and Rokkanen forced 3s, and neither even caught rim.

Cullop needs to stop this little game of starting our third-string center, then bringing in our second-string center a couple minutes into the game, then bringing in our first-string center toward the end of the first quarter. I realize that Cullop knows a whole lot more about basketball and about her team than I do, but how does this possibly make sense? Against Detroit, Rasmussen left the game after three minutes with two fouls and never returned. Today, she left after three minutes with a missed layup and a turnover, and she never returned.

I can't think of a single player who played well today. Cunningham had a good first half. I'm glad to see Rokkanen getting minutes since she's offensive-minded.

Biggest concern is Janice, of course.

Just got back from the game. One of the worst UT games ever. Unfortunately, the team has about four women who can't play. One of the reasons our "first string" center isn't starting and playing more is that she's still injured.

(12-31-2016 03:21 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 02:24 PM)Dwight Wrote:  Everybody already said most of the things I was going to say. A couple more:

Why were we so desperate to launch 3s the last couple minutes, particularly the last two possessions when we were down 2. I understand if you're open, but both Bravo-Harriot and Rokkanen forced 3s, and neither even caught rim.

Cullop needs to stop this little game of starting our third-string center, then bringing in our second-string center a couple minutes into the game, then bringing in our first-string center toward the end of the first quarter. I realize that Cullop knows a whole lot more about basketball and about her team than I do, but how does this possibly make sense? Against Detroit, Rasmussen left the game after three minutes with two fouls and never returned. Today, she left after three minutes with a missed layup and a turnover, and she never returned.

I can't think of a single player who played well today. Cunningham had a good first half. I'm glad to see Rokkanen getting minutes since she's offensive-minded.

Biggest concern is Janice, of course.

Just got back from the game. One of the worst UT games ever. Unfortunately, the team has about four women who can't play. One of the reasons our "first string" center isn't starting and playing more is that she's still injured.

That means nine can play. Like BSU had. UCLA? Dayton? Those 4 weren't any better then. Just one of those games. We make layups or FTs and we win by double digits.

Had some work to do this afternoon and didn't get a chance to watch. Glad I didn't. What a let down. Sounds like the Lady Rocket's fireworks got wet.

I don't follow the women's team closely, but I read one prediction on this board that they would be an at-large selection and another that they could win a couple of games in the NCAA tournament. Was today just one of those days, or do some of you wear rose-colored glasses (or maybe, like me, really lack the expertise you pretend to have)?

(12-31-2016 03:51 PM)rkt Wrote:  I don't follow the women's team closely, but I read one prediction on this board that they would be an at-large selection and another that they could win a couple of games in the NCAA tournament. Was today just one of those days, or do some of you wear rose-colored glasses (or maybe, like me, really lack the expertise you pretend to have)?

Even had we won today we are only getting into the NCAAs thru Cleveland. We still could win the MAC but obviously a lot of work to do.

One other complaint I forgot to make before: Jay-Ann has got to stay on the floor. She commits ticky-tack fouls that limit her playing time. I wonder if her being in and out of the game due to foul trouble has contributed to her poor play the last two games.

All of the complaining aside, most teams do have a couple of bad losses every year. This was our first.

As for an at-large bid, it's not going to happen. Even if we win out (which won't happen) and then lose in the tournament we won't have a better resume than the team that failed to get a bid in Naama's senior year. We would have needed to beat Notre Dame or UCLA to even think about an at-large bid.

(12-31-2016 03:51 PM)rkt Wrote:  I don't follow the women's team closely, but I read one prediction on this board that they would be an at-large selection and another that they could win a couple of games in the NCAA tournament. Was today just one of those days, or do some of you wear rose-colored glasses (or maybe, like me, really lack the expertise you pretend to have)?

Anyone who thinks any MAC team might get an at-large needs to rethink that thought.

FG 24%
3 PT 16 %
FT 42 %

Plenty of words but don't want to rehash what has already been said

Using our YTD shooting percents I figured with the number of shots, FTs and 3s we took we would, on avg, score about 76.

Only was able to see the first half but I would guess the Rockets set a record for the most missed layups. Shooting was horrendous from form to finish

(12-31-2016 06:11 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  FG 24%
3 PT 16 %
FT 42 %

Plenty of words but don't want to rehash what has already been said

Not sure I would say Toledo "forced" 30 turnovers. Ball State did plenty of that themselves. Many were unforced. For all the angst expressed about the poor play of the Rockets, Ball State had one of its worst games of the season as well. Only positives for them were outstanding rebounding and ability to win out in the end. Defense forced several turnovers also. I do agree that it was one of the worst MAC games overall that I have ever seen. Really ugly. Should be interesting when the two meet again in Muncie to close the season. I'm guessing it will be a good game and well played by both teams.

Any word on Janice

(01-01-2017 01:23 PM)LongtimeFan Wrote:  Not sure I would say Toledo "forced" 30 turnovers. Ball State did plenty of that themselves. Many were unforced. For all the angst expressed about the poor play of the Rockets, Ball State had one of its worst games of the season as well. Only positives for them were outstanding rebounding and ability to win out in the end. Defense forced several turnovers also. I do agree that it was one of the worst MAC games overall that I have ever seen. Really ugly. Should be interesting when the two meet again in Muncie to close the season. I'm guessing it will be a good game and well played by both teams.

I'm guessing that Ball State will have 30 turnovers again and the Rockets will win by 20.

(01-01-2017 02:10 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Any word on Janice

None that I've heard. That was an ugly foul.

Thought UT played pretty well on defense and ran the offense well.Hope we start making our layups and 30% of out 3's. I think we will be fine with our perimeter defense and fast break defense. I'm just need to finish on offense.

(01-01-2017 04:07 PM)Dwight Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 01:23 PM)LongtimeFan Wrote:  Not sure I would say Toledo "forced" 30 turnovers. Ball State did plenty of that themselves. Many were unforced. For all the angst expressed about the poor play of the Rockets, Ball State had one of its worst games of the season as well. Only positives for them were outstanding rebounding and ability to win out in the end. Defense forced several turnovers also. I do agree that it was one of the worst MAC games overall that I have ever seen. Really ugly. Should be interesting when the two meet again in Muncie to close the season. I'm guessing it will be a good game and well played by both teams.

I'm guessing that Ball State will have 30 turnovers again and the Rockets will win by 20.

I hope you don't put any money on that.