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(11-26-2016 08:27 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(11-26-2016 08:18 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(11-26-2016 08:10 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  What an answer after the pick 6!

We had the advantage running the option, but DW is just not an option QB, he doesnt make good reads (or pitches). Once he banged his knee up, we went to Compton and Cox at TE and ran down their throats. Thats the first time I've ever seen a coach call timeout to draw up a defensive play.......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! We completely caught them off guard with double TE, no WR on one side.

Had to win a game where the offensive turned it over 3 times. Defense was outstanding; what a performance.

An advantage running an option with a non option QB.

Quite possibly the stupidest sentence I've ever read on this board.

We had an advantage bc of the way FIU lined up. It was DW or Lawry; 1v1 on a linebacker, which is why we destroyed them running it in the first half. Even with DW being bad at it, we still gashed them on the ground.

I don't want to waste a great night of football arguing with you so Im done after this. We played our asses off and glad they proved you wrong. If you want to criticize the coaches, at least do it intelligently. You just make yourself look bad when you criticize without knowing what you are talking about.

The stupidest sentence you should have read was when you used to insist that we BLITZ THE MIDDLE LINEBACKER vs. the option.

We did not have success running the option in the first half. Yet another asinine post from you.

My suggestion to blitz the middle linebacker was to break up they're blocking scheme.
You know what's really stupid? Giving up 700 yards rushing and not changing up the game plan at all. So of course here you are defending that decision.

You really are one of the least knowledgeable fans I've ever conversed with.

Washington ran 5 times for 31 yards before he screwed up the pitch. That doesnt include the Ray Lawry runs.

If you dont think 6 yards per carry is good, well...

(11-26-2016 08:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Washington ran 5 times for 31 yards before he screwed up the pitch. That doesnt include the Ray Lawry runs.

If you dont think 6 yards per carry is good, well...

Jesus dude. 6 yards a carry is NOT worth having your QB take shots from
D lineman and linebackers. Not when lawry can get 6 yards a carry on his own with no option and no risk.

Washington also fumbled twice......so no, I would prefer not taking the risk.

521 yards
42 points

Our 3, uncharacteristic turnovers cost us 14 points. The play calling in the first half was bad, not horrible, but bad. DW is not a pitch option quarterback, read option yes. I did call their two tight end passes each time they brought their big stud into the game. He sucks at blocking which is why he goes in when he gets thrown to. Speaking of TE, where is our big TE, Vaughan?

ODU went 9-3, 7-1 in C-USA. An amazing season for a team picked to finish sixth in the East Division. Bobby Wilder COY.

(11-26-2016 09:05 PM)TedHead Wrote:  Our 3, uncharacteristic turnovers cost us 14 points. The play calling in the first half was bad, not horrible, but bad. DW is not a pitch option quarterback, read option yes. I did call their two tight end passes each time they brought their big stud into the game. He sucks at blocking which is why he goes in when he gets thrown to. Speaking of TE, where is our big TE, Vaughan?

Vaughn has a sprained ankle.

(11-26-2016 08:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Washington ran 5 times for 31 yards before he screwed up the pitch. That doesnt include the Ray Lawry runs.

If you dont think 6 yards per carry is good, well...

The 1st half offensive scheme of having Washington involved in several run option plays resulted in the following -

* 2 lost fumbles.
* Washington taking multiple hits (was eventually knocked out of the game).
* A 14 - 14 halftime tie.


The 2nd half offensive scheme of having Washington run the team as he had run it in the prior 11 games resulted in the following -

* No fumbles.
* 28 second half points.
* Running through them on the ground with Lawry and Cox like a hot knife through butter.

There is no logical argument for supporting the 1st half offensive scheme over the 2nd half offensive scheme. This isn't Monday morning quarterbacking either. Many of us said they were screwing up with their approach well before halftime and wanted them to go to exactly what they went to in the 2nd half (which worked like a Swiss Watch).

(11-26-2016 10:08 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(11-26-2016 08:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Washington ran 5 times for 31 yards before he screwed up the pitch. That doesnt include the Ray Lawry runs.

If you dont think 6 yards per carry is good, well...

The 1st half offensive scheme of having Washington involved in several run option plays resulted in the following -

* 2 lost fumbles.
* Washington taking multiple hits (was eventually knocked out of the game).
* A 14 - 14 halftime tie.


The 2nd half offensive scheme of having Washington run the team as he had run it in the prior 11 games resulted in the following -

* No fumbles.
* 28 second half points.
* Running through them on the ground with Lawry and Cox like a hot knife through butter.

There is no logical argument for supporting the 1st half offensive scheme over the 2nd half offensive scheme. This isn't Monday morning quarterbacking either. Many of us said they were screwing up with their approach well before halftime and wanted them to go to exactly what they went to in the 2nd half (which worked like a Swiss Watch).

Agreed. ODU's Offensive Coordinator needs to be given a stern lecture about now risking your QB when a bowl game is incoming.

9-3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(11-26-2016 12:16 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Points per game: FIU 23.6 ODU 35.5
Points allowed: FIU 34.2 ODU 27.8

Yards per game: FIU 388.3 ODU 426.0
Yards allowed: FIU 426.7 ODU 389.5

That is really not that close at all.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/gam...=400869416

(11-26-2016 12:32 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I dont care what the numbers say, I think it is going to be a close game. They are really not as bad as they look on paper.

We made the spread, and the game wasn't nearly as close as the score.

(11-26-2016 01:13 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  I get they're better than their record may show but I feel like you're under selling us a bit. I think we're good enough to have that 2td spread.

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Indeed

In post game I'll try and paraphrase what I heard.

Basically based on film and formations they did what they thought would work best with the read option to exploit the edges. Dw said he tried to do too much on the last play and he took a helmet to the leg. But before that play wilder said he wanted to kill the option as it wasn't working as well as they had liked so they went back to the drawing board. Oc came up with what we saw in the 2nd and he said it caught fiu totally off guard.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

My point is that the option worked well.....until DW screwed up on back to back pitches. It is a play that has worked well all year when teams stack the box (with no turnovers). FIU was putting 6 guys within 3 yards of the LOS and shooting the A gaps. We had numbers outside. They tried the option, which was working. Heck, Lawry had a chance at a big play if he didn't take eye off the ball. The play Washington was injured on was different read option play. These are plays we ran all year, but FIU dives inside to take away the RB handoff, which forced Washington to hold on to the ball. It was the same playcalling we've done all year.

We scrapped it after the 2nd fumble and overloaded one side with extra OL and TE to counter the numbers and went to a more ball controlled grind them out plan, which worked great. People are too quick to whine about playcalling.

(11-26-2016 10:22 PM)FTW ODU Wrote:  

(11-26-2016 10:08 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(11-26-2016 08:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Washington ran 5 times for 31 yards before he screwed up the pitch. That doesnt include the Ray Lawry runs.

If you dont think 6 yards per carry is good, well...

The 1st half offensive scheme of having Washington involved in several run option plays resulted in the following -

* 2 lost fumbles.
* Washington taking multiple hits (was eventually knocked out of the game).
* A 14 - 14 halftime tie.


The 2nd half offensive scheme of having Washington run the team as he had run it in the prior 11 games resulted in the following -

* No fumbles.
* 28 second half points.
* Running through them on the ground with Lawry and Cox like a hot knife through butter.

There is no logical argument for supporting the 1st half offensive scheme over the 2nd half offensive scheme. This isn't Monday morning quarterbacking either. Many of us said they were screwing up with their approach well before halftime and wanted them to go to exactly what they went to in the 2nd half (which worked like a Swiss Watch).

Agreed. ODU's Offensive Coordinator needs to be given a stern lecture about now risking your QB when a bowl game is incoming.

Tonights game was far more important than what the bowl game will be. You don't "save" players for bowl games.

(11-26-2016 10:28 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(11-26-2016 12:16 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Points per game: FIU 23.6 ODU 35.5
Points allowed: FIU 34.2 ODU 27.8

Yards per game: FIU 388.3 ODU 426.0
Yards allowed: FIU 426.7 ODU 389.5

That is really not that close at all.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/gam...=400869416

(11-26-2016 12:32 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I dont care what the numbers say, I think it is going to be a close game. They are really not as bad as they look on paper.

We made the spread, and the game wasn't nearly as close as the score.

(11-26-2016 01:13 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  I get they're better than their record may show but I feel like you're under selling us a bit. I think we're good enough to have that 2td spread.

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Indeed

Yeah, the game was either a push or close win from either side, but I thought we outplayed the spread. Their backup QBs are awful.

(11-26-2016 10:53 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  In post game I'll try and paraphrase what I heard.

Basically based on film and formations they did what they thought would work best with the read option to exploit the edges. Dw said he tried to do too much on the last play and he took a helmet to the leg. But before that play wilder said he wanted to kill the option as it wasn't working as well as they had liked so they went back to the drawing board. Oc came up with what we saw in the 2nd and he said it caught fiu totally off guard.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

For a team that seemingly couldn't adjust to anything last season and early this season, we seem to be doing a remarkable job with adjustments on both offense and defense now.

(11-26-2016 10:53 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  In post game I'll try and paraphrase what I heard.

Basically based on film and formations they did what they thought would work best with the read option to exploit the edges. Dw said he tried to do too much on the last play and he took a helmet to the leg. But before that play wilder said he wanted to kill the option as it wasn't working as well as they had liked so they went back to the drawing board. Oc came up with what we saw in the 2nd and he said it caught fiu totally off guard.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

I couldn't help but laugh. They called timeout and brought the chalkboard out to draw up a play. We were on our sideline kind of laughing that they were drawing up plays and they were so scared we would see what they were drawing up.

If your coach has to call timeout and draw up plays, you probably havent done your job as a coach. I understand it was something they probably never saw from us before, but still.

Blake LaRussa really impressed me during the short time he played.
Anyone else impressed?

(11-26-2016 04:47 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  We're gonna lose this game.....they have all the momentum, Washington is hurt and they have way more energy.

Ridiculous.

Prime example. Yall need to chill during the games. All of em.

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(11-26-2016 11:03 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Blake LaRussa really impressed me uring the short time he played.
Anyone else impressed?

Same. He didn't throw but 1 down field but it went a long way and the short passes were crisp and on target except that one he really under threw that might have been a td with 3 sec left.

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