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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
lol UCA might be a top 15 FCS team but Charleston southern was a top 10 FCS team at seasons end and they were blown off the field by 4-8 record TROY that same year last year.
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Paraprosdokian
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
I suppose the playoff talk only works if I specify the "P5" playoff and not FCS playoffs. The comment was made in jest.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Uh, that link doesn't show anyone saying remotely what you're claiming. Several posters said Troy looked average, but just as many others praised the Trojan defense and said they were playing much better than USA. At least one poster said that we didn't have a shot at beating Troy since we play on the road. That's on a specifically AState board. That's about a far from ridiculous as you get (especially since there are people on THIS board talking about Troy getting ranked and going to an NY6 game).
That being said... UCA is a solid team, but us losing to them is on us. Before that game we were beating FCS teams by an average of 50 points, and there's no excuse for not beating UCA by that much except we plainly sucked it up. Anyone saying otherwise by taking up UCA is, IMO, delusional.
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10-26-2016 03:21 PM |
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ericsaid
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-26-2016 03:21 PM)Paraprosdokian Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
I suppose the playoff talk only works if I specify the "P5" playoff and not FCS playoffs. The comment was made in jest.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Uh, that link doesn't show anyone saying remotely what you're claiming. Several posters said Troy looked average, but just as many others praised the Trojan defense and said they were playing much better than USA. At least one poster said that we didn't have a shot at beating Troy since we play on the road. That's on a specifically AState board. That's about a far from ridiculous as you get (especially since there are people on THIS board talking about Troy getting ranked and going to an NY6 game).
That being said... UCA is a solid team, but us losing to them is on us. Before that game we were beating FCS teams by an average of 50 points, and there's no excuse for not beating UCA by that much except we plainly sucked it up. Anyone saying otherwise by taking up UCA is, IMO, delusional.
You have a shot to beat Troy. Only Troy fans will dispute that but Troy is a good team despite looking average. Much in the same way that App has played since the middle of 2014, Troy is a well oiled machine at this point. They are going to play their game and if it is tight toward the end, the more consistent team usually pulls it out. Good teams pull it out. That is what you saw against USM and USA and is what you see with the way Clemson is playing this season.
Arkansas State is building to that point and assuming Blake Anderson quits using OOC games to tinker, State should be a force throughout the season next year. However, that UCA loss is nothing more than message board fodder at this point. App dealt with it throughout the year and offseason of 2015 after the loss to Liberty. Begin winning out of conference and all of these discussions go away.
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10-26-2016 04:03 PM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-26-2016 11:34 AM)WolfBird Wrote: (10-26-2016 11:15 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote: The good thing is that their fans have made sure that whatever the final version of the "truth" is, it will involve the performance of their HC, something that they felt was not happening.
Anderson has also come across as being a little more supportive of his players in recent weeks, although from reports on AStateNation.com, comments he made to their safety in practice were the reason the player took a hike. His flipping his position on playing "mistake free", makes me feel some of these recent changes are being imposed on Anderson.
It also appears to me that most of these changes came after Anderson had to watch the film of the UCA game with their AD, so "backsliding", is a concern.
You're a moron if you think there was any blame to go to Anderson when Sentimore took a walk after they had to talk him in to coming back this year any way.
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You certainly are good at name calling.
A person considered a credible source posted on AStateNation the player left after being confronted by Anderson with "You are either all in or your out.", during practice. Did not place blame on anyone just stated what happened. Just based on the source, and reading the followup post I have no reason not to believe it.
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(10-26-2016 09:40 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote: (10-26-2016 11:34 AM)WolfBird Wrote: (10-26-2016 11:15 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote: The good thing is that their fans have made sure that whatever the final version of the "truth" is, it will involve the performance of their HC, something that they felt was not happening.
Anderson has also come across as being a little more supportive of his players in recent weeks, although from reports on AStateNation.com, comments he made to their safety in practice were the reason the player took a hike. His flipping his position on playing "mistake free", makes me feel some of these recent changes are being imposed on Anderson.
It also appears to me that most of these changes came after Anderson had to watch the film of the UCA game with their AD, so "backsliding", is a concern.
You're a moron if you think there was any blame to go to Anderson when Sentimore took a walk after they had to talk him in to coming back this year any way.
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You certainly good at name calling.
A person considered a credible source posted on AStateNation the player left after being confronted by Anderson with "You are either all in or your out.", during practice. Just based on the source, and reading the followup post I have no reason not to believe it.
Yes. That's what happened. However that's not a negative on the staff.
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-26-2016 09:44 PM)WolfBird Wrote: (10-26-2016 09:40 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote: (10-26-2016 11:34 AM)WolfBird Wrote: (10-26-2016 11:15 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote: The good thing is that their fans have made sure that whatever the final version of the "truth" is, it will involve the performance of their HC, something that they felt was not happening.
Anderson has also come across as being a little more supportive of his players in recent weeks, although from reports on AStateNation.com, comments he made to their safety in practice were the reason the player took a hike. His flipping his position on playing "mistake free", makes me feel some of these recent changes are being imposed on Anderson.
It also appears to me that most of these changes came after Anderson had to watch the film of the UCA game with their AD, so "backsliding", is a concern.
You're a moron if you think there was any blame to go to Anderson when Sentimore took a walk after they had to talk him in to coming back this year any way.
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You certainly good at name calling.
A person considered a credible source posted on AStateNation the player left after being confronted by Anderson with "You are either all in or your out.", during practice. Just based on the source, and reading the followup post I have no reason not to believe it.
Yes. That's what happened. However that's not a negative on the staff.
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I tend to agree, but I did want to make it clear here that while it appears to me that he is no longer calling players out in public (something that did not sit well with a lot of A-State fans, and some posters here as I recall), he is still calling them out.
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10-26-2016 10:01 PM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
I suppose the playoff talk only works if I specify the "P5" playoff and not FCS playoffs. The comment was made in jest.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Absolute and complete BS - exactly one poster said stAte will beat Troy - and it's freaking IndianBird/WolfBird - what do you expect from that clown?
There was another poster who stated that stAte CAN beat Troy, and plenty of disrespect for Troy. But your statement is FALSE.
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10-27-2016 07:17 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 07:17 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
I suppose the playoff talk only works if I specify the "P5" playoff and not FCS playoffs. The comment was made in jest.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Absolute and complete BS - exactly one poster said stAte will beat Troy - and it's freaking IndianBird/WolfBird - what do you expect from that clown?
There was another poster who stated that stAte CAN beat Troy, and plenty of disrespect for Troy. But your statement is FALSE.
That's fair. I did not realize it was mostly one guy. I saw more than what was there. Doesn't sound like you have a lot of respect for the guy, hah.
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10-27-2016 08:09 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
Those two things are totally unrelated. Football is a long season with a lot of moving parts. Think about how poorly App St. played the first half a few years ago (I am thinking they lost to an FCS) before winning six in a row.
Teams make personnel, scheme, leadership changes all the time that completely alter the strength of a team in mid-season.
I don't know that ASU's passing game is strong enough to run the table again but the change after week 4 to the run scheme paid off big time and the defense held Ga So and USA in check (7 points for USA) so the potential is there.
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10-27-2016 10:01 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 08:09 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-27-2016 07:17 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
I suppose the playoff talk only works if I specify the "P5" playoff and not FCS playoffs. The comment was made in jest.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Absolute and complete BS - exactly one poster said stAte will beat Troy - and it's freaking IndianBird/WolfBird - what do you expect from that clown?
There was another poster who stated that stAte CAN beat Troy, and plenty of disrespect for Troy. But your statement is FALSE.
That's fair. I did not realize it was mostly one guy. I saw more than what was there. Doesn't sound like you have a lot of respect for the guy, hah.
Yeah, he's the ericsaid of AState. You can disregard anything he says. We all do.
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10-27-2016 10:26 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 10:26 AM)Paraprosdokian Wrote: (10-27-2016 08:09 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-27-2016 07:17 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote: I suppose the playoff talk only works if I specify the "P5" playoff and not FCS playoffs. The comment was made in jest.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Absolute and complete BS - exactly one poster said stAte will beat Troy - and it's freaking IndianBird/WolfBird - what do you expect from that clown?
There was another poster who stated that stAte CAN beat Troy, and plenty of disrespect for Troy. But your statement is FALSE.
That's fair. I did not realize it was mostly one guy. I saw more than what was there. Doesn't sound like you have a lot of respect for the guy, hah.
Yeah, he's the ericsaid of AState. You can disregard anything he says. We all do.
I think that honor could also go to asuwon or Seminole.
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10-27-2016 10:35 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 10:35 AM)BurlingtonApp Wrote: (10-27-2016 10:26 AM)Paraprosdokian Wrote: (10-27-2016 08:09 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-27-2016 07:17 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Absolute and complete BS - exactly one poster said stAte will beat Troy - and it's freaking IndianBird/WolfBird - what do you expect from that clown?
There was another poster who stated that stAte CAN beat Troy, and plenty of disrespect for Troy. But your statement is FALSE.
That's fair. I did not realize it was mostly one guy. I saw more than what was there. Doesn't sound like you have a lot of respect for the guy, hah.
Yeah, he's the ericsaid of AState. You can disregard anything he says. We all do.
I think that honor could also go to asuwon or Seminole.
ASUWon and Wolfbird actually have season tickets, are major donors, and attend games regularly.
Seminole hasn't attended a game in over a decade. There's just no comparison.
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10-27-2016 11:04 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
No team with an FCS loss has won a Championship, but we've had multiple teams with FCS losses finish top 2-3 in league
the biggest difference is that in both of those situations the team that won the 6-7 league games took their conference loss in a game played week 5 or earlier.
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2016 11:08 AM by chiefsfan.)
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10-27-2016 11:07 AM |
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Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 07:17 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
I suppose the playoff talk only works if I specify the "P5" playoff and not FCS playoffs. The comment was made in jest.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Absolute and complete BS - exactly one poster said stAte will beat Troy - and it's freaking IndianBird/WolfBird - what do you expect from that clown?
There was another poster who stated that stAte CAN beat Troy, and plenty of disrespect for Troy. But your statement is FALSE.
Ok. When we beat Troy do I come back here and bring it up or just send you a pm?
You don't have to bow down to these guys. It'll be ok.
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10-27-2016 11:11 AM |
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Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 10:26 AM)Paraprosdokian Wrote: (10-27-2016 08:09 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-27-2016 07:17 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote: I suppose the playoff talk only works if I specify the "P5" playoff and not FCS playoffs. The comment was made in jest.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Absolute and complete BS - exactly one poster said stAte will beat Troy - and it's freaking IndianBird/WolfBird - what do you expect from that clown?
There was another poster who stated that stAte CAN beat Troy, and plenty of disrespect for Troy. But your statement is FALSE.
That's fair. I did not realize it was mostly one guy. I saw more than what was there. Doesn't sound like you have a lot of respect for the guy, hah.
Yeah, he's the ericsaid of AState. You can disregard anything he says. We all do.
Coming from one of the biggest puds on our board I'll take this as a compliment.
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10-27-2016 11:12 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
No team with an FCS loss has won a Championship, but we've had multiple teams with FCS losses finish top 2-3 in league
the biggest difference is that in both of those situations the team that won the 6-7 league games took their conference loss in a game played week 5 or earlier.
Worth noting that a team with an FCS loss won the ACC six years ago.
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10-27-2016 11:14 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
No team with an FCS loss has won a Championship, but we've had multiple teams with FCS losses finish top 2-3 in league
the biggest difference is that in both of those situations the team that won the 6-7 league games took their conference loss in a game played week 5 or earlier.
You guys did all you could to hand GS the game we played so kudos to stAte for finally getting back on track but for the good of the conference stAte does not need to be conference champs this season. I understand that if you win all your league games you will deserve the title but at the same time that probably would be the one thing that will kill what little bit of perception bump we have this year for outsiders looking in.
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10-27-2016 11:16 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 11:16 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote: (10-27-2016 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
No team with an FCS loss has won a Championship, but we've had multiple teams with FCS losses finish top 2-3 in league
the biggest difference is that in both of those situations the team that won the 6-7 league games took their conference loss in a game played week 5 or earlier.
You guys did all you could to hand GS the game we played so kudos to stAte for finally getting back on track but for the good of the conference stAte does not need to be conference champs this season. I understand that if you win all your league games you will deserve the title but at the same time that probably would be the one thing that will kill what little bit of perception bump we have this year for outsiders looking in.
I'm much more worried about APP than I am ArkST. We'll get a another look at what APP and GS are all about tonight.
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10-27-2016 11:20 AM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 11:20 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-27-2016 11:16 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote: (10-27-2016 11:07 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:12 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Are we all really that bad that losing to an FCS playoff caliber team by 5 means you'll run through the belt? Please.
No team with an FCS loss has won a Championship, but we've had multiple teams with FCS losses finish top 2-3 in league
the biggest difference is that in both of those situations the team that won the 6-7 league games took their conference loss in a game played week 5 or earlier.
You guys did all you could to hand GS the game we played so kudos to stAte for finally getting back on track but for the good of the conference stAte does not need to be conference champs this season. I understand that if you win all your league games you will deserve the title but at the same time that probably would be the one thing that will kill what little bit of perception bump we have this year for outsiders looking in.
I'm much more worried about APP than I am ArkST. We'll get a another look at what APP and GS are all about tonight.
You should worry about App, but there's a decent chance we'll be 5-0 in league heading down to Troy. You could do all that work beating App, and lose to us and watch the entirety of your championship hopes go down the drain in one swoop.
We've literally got you at the perfect time. On a Thursday Night, just 5 days after you have to play App.
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10-27-2016 12:02 PM |
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RE: Week 8 POWER Rankings
(10-27-2016 10:26 AM)Paraprosdokian Wrote: (10-27-2016 08:09 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-27-2016 07:17 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (10-26-2016 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote: I suppose the playoff talk only works if I specify the "P5" playoff and not FCS playoffs. The comment was made in jest.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. I keep hearing about how ArkST is going to beat Troy (nearly everyone on their home board) and make a clean sweep, and how good UCA really is.
http://www.scout.com/college/arkansas-st...ght?page=1
Absolute and complete BS - exactly one poster said stAte will beat Troy - and it's freaking IndianBird/WolfBird - what do you expect from that clown?
There was another poster who stated that stAte CAN beat Troy, and plenty of disrespect for Troy. But your statement is FALSE.
That's fair. I did not realize it was mostly one guy. I saw more than what was there. Doesn't sound like you have a lot of respect for the guy, hah.
Yeah, he's the ericsaid of AState. You can disregard anything he says. We all do.
I'm really not that bad. If App were a bad team I'd be here talking about how good other teams are. You State fans tend to get your panties in a wad when someone with an objective view point of your team talks about the issues they see with your team. Everyone knew prior to the season started that State would lay an egg out of conference because that's what they do. For the most part my predictions on the score prediction threads are over .500 and the scores aren't that far off which would suggest that you assuming i'm biased is more or less just in your head.
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10-27-2016 12:08 PM |
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