(08-30-2016 07:31 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 06:02 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 01:40 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 01:34 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 12:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  If the flags were being used to taunt other students then I agree. The flag should not be used in this way.

Yeah, I agree with you on this one. If they are using it to taunt, they are despicable.

If the flags were used to taunt, then ban the idiots doing the taunting, not the flags.

Finally, someone with common sense. Are they also taking down the flag from flag posts now?

This is the U.S. of A. and for some reason these people came to our country just like my dad did and he was the proudest AMERICAN there could be. These new immigrants should learn that the flag symbolizes our country.

I think some clarity needs to be added to this thread. I don't see anything that implies that this was about avoiding offending immigrants because an American flag was hung on a flag post at the end of the stadium. It appeared to be about a bunch of yahoos who were waving American flags in the faces of the immigrants and likely shouting slurs.

If you can't understand the difference....well, never mind.

Still not a reason to ban the flags. Ban the so called "yahoos" that were being douche bags.

No one should be taking flags to a football game. There should be a flag on a pole somewhere and that should be enough.

(08-30-2016 09:52 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  No one should be taking flags to a football game. There should be a flag on a pole somewhere and that should be enough.

(08-30-2016 09:52 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  No one should be taking flags to a football game. There should be a flag on a pole somewhere and that should be enough.

Interesting cookie cutter approach. Just the other day you said ,"one size fits all (rules, procedures,) don't work well ,.. remember ???

(08-30-2016 10:02 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 09:52 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  No one should be taking flags to a football game. There should be a flag on a pole somewhere and that should be enough.

Interesting cookie cutter approach. Just the other day you said ,"one size fits all (rules, procedures,) don't work well ,.. remember ???

You are correct sir. They should not ban all flags. Just really big one's.

If someone wants to fly a mini hand held one, that's fine with me.

Size matters.

I can't agree with any policy that would have prevented "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan from entering.

(08-30-2016 10:06 AM)ARandomHerdFan Wrote:  I can't agree with any policy that would have prevented "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan from entering.

That's different, Hacksaw was part of the show.

(08-30-2016 08:32 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 07:31 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 06:02 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 01:40 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 01:34 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Yeah, I agree with you on this one. If they are using it to taunt, they are despicable.

If the flags were used to taunt, then ban the idiots doing the taunting, not the flags.

Finally, someone with common sense. Are they also taking down the flag from flag posts now?

This is the U.S. of A. and for some reason these people came to our country just like my dad did and he was the proudest AMERICAN there could be. These new immigrants should learn that the flag symbolizes our country.

I think some clarity needs to be added to this thread. I don't see anything that implies that this was about avoiding offending immigrants because an American flag was hung on a flag post at the end of the stadium. It appeared to be about a bunch of yahoos who were waving American flags in the faces of the immigrants and likely shouting slurs.

If you can't understand the difference....well, never mind.

Still not a reason to ban the flags. Ban the so called "yahoos" that were being douche bags.

I agree in principle but it can be difficult culling out the knuckleheads.

By the way, I don't suggest that general taunting be banned.

Just last night, I attended a high school soccer game between two rivals, let's say teams A and B. Last year, team A beat B three times and went to the state finals before losing. They also lost 9 starters.

Last night, team B got off to a 4-0 lead and a student unfurled a school flag that was about three times normal size and started running back and forth in front of team A's fans. Valid taunting in my opinion.

(08-30-2016 11:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 08:32 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 07:31 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 06:02 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 01:40 PM)VA49er Wrote:  If the flags were used to taunt, then ban the idiots doing the taunting, not the flags.

Finally, someone with common sense. Are they also taking down the flag from flag posts now?

This is the U.S. of A. and for some reason these people came to our country just like my dad did and he was the proudest AMERICAN there could be. These new immigrants should learn that the flag symbolizes our country.

I think some clarity needs to be added to this thread. I don't see anything that implies that this was about avoiding offending immigrants because an American flag was hung on a flag post at the end of the stadium. It appeared to be about a bunch of yahoos who were waving American flags in the faces of the immigrants and likely shouting slurs.

If you can't understand the difference....well, never mind.

Still not a reason to ban the flags. Ban the so called "yahoos" that were being douche bags.

I agree in principle but it can be difficult culling out the knuckleheads.

By the way, I don't suggest that general taunting be banned.

Just last night, I attended a high school soccer game between two rivals, let's say teams A and B. Last year, team A beat B three times and went to the state finals before losing. They also lost 9 starters.

Last night, team B got off to a 4-0 lead and a student unfurled a school flag that was about three times normal size and started running back and forth in front of team A's fans. Valid taunting in my opinion.

Yes indeed. If the person is on the field and authorized to do that yes. If they are in the stands and obstructing someone's view of the game then NO.

(08-30-2016 11:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 08:32 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 07:31 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-29-2016 06:02 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Finally, someone with common sense. Are they also taking down the flag from flag posts now?

This is the U.S. of A. and for some reason these people came to our country just like my dad did and he was the proudest AMERICAN there could be. These new immigrants should learn that the flag symbolizes our country.

I think some clarity needs to be added to this thread. I don't see anything that implies that this was about avoiding offending immigrants because an American flag was hung on a flag post at the end of the stadium. It appeared to be about a bunch of yahoos who were waving American flags in the faces of the immigrants and likely shouting slurs.

If you can't understand the difference....well, never mind.

Still not a reason to ban the flags. Ban the so called "yahoos" that were being douche bags.

I agree in principle but it can be difficult culling out the knuckleheads.

By the way, I don't suggest that general taunting be banned.

Just last night, I attended a high school soccer game between two rivals, let's say teams A and B. Last year, team A beat B three times and went to the state finals before losing. They also lost 9 starters.

Last night, team B got off to a 4-0 lead and a student unfurled a school flag that was about three times normal size and started running back and forth in front of team A's fans. Valid taunting in my opinion.

Yes indeed. If the person is on the field and authorized to do that yes. If they are in the stands and obstructing someone's view of the game then NO.

Good lord, banning flags in the stands at a soccer match? That's just crazy talk.

(08-30-2016 11:18 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 08:32 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 07:31 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I think some clarity needs to be added to this thread. I don't see anything that implies that this was about avoiding offending immigrants because an American flag was hung on a flag post at the end of the stadium. It appeared to be about a bunch of yahoos who were waving American flags in the faces of the immigrants and likely shouting slurs.

If you can't understand the difference....well, never mind.

Still not a reason to ban the flags. Ban the so called "yahoos" that were being douche bags.

I agree in principle but it can be difficult culling out the knuckleheads.

By the way, I don't suggest that general taunting be banned.

Just last night, I attended a high school soccer game between two rivals, let's say teams A and B. Last year, team A beat B three times and went to the state finals before losing. They also lost 9 starters.

Last night, team B got off to a 4-0 lead and a student unfurled a school flag that was about three times normal size and started running back and forth in front of team A's fans. Valid taunting in my opinion.

Yes indeed. If the person is on the field and authorized to do that yes. If they are in the stands and obstructing someone's view of the game then NO.

Good lord, banning flags in the stands at a soccer match? That's just crazy talk.

No one is calling for that either. Soccer games are much different, certain parts of the stadium are designated for that kind of thing.

Now if the school wanted to designate a flag flying section of the stadium, I wouldn't have a problem with that either.

But let's cut the crap here. We all know that some on this forum simply want bigots to have the opportunity to taunt minorities.

(08-30-2016 11:46 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:18 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 08:32 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Still not a reason to ban the flags. Ban the so called "yahoos" that were being douche bags.

I agree in principle but it can be difficult culling out the knuckleheads.

By the way, I don't suggest that general taunting be banned.

Just last night, I attended a high school soccer game between two rivals, let's say teams A and B. Last year, team A beat B three times and went to the state finals before losing. They also lost 9 starters.

Last night, team B got off to a 4-0 lead and a student unfurled a school flag that was about three times normal size and started running back and forth in front of team A's fans. Valid taunting in my opinion.

Yes indeed. If the person is on the field and authorized to do that yes. If they are in the stands and obstructing someone's view of the game then NO.

Good lord, banning flags in the stands at a soccer match? That's just crazy talk.

No one is calling for that either. Soccer games are much different, certain parts of the stadium are designated for that kind of thing.

Now if the school wanted to designate a flag flying section of the stadium, I wouldn't have a problem with that either.

But let's cut the crap here. We all know that some on this forum simply want bigots to have the opportunity to taunt minorities.

So in summary, the flags aren't the issue at all, it's the dumba$$ idiots doing the taunting that are the issues. Again, simply ban/punish the taunters and problem solved. No need to go through the hassle of creating a new "flag section" or banning the flag. Actually, pretty sure there is an "antibullying" policy that is being violated so, as usual, just follow procedures already on the books to deal with the situation. No need for anything else.

(08-30-2016 11:46 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:18 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 08:32 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Still not a reason to ban the flags. Ban the so called "yahoos" that were being douche bags.

I agree in principle but it can be difficult culling out the knuckleheads.

By the way, I don't suggest that general taunting be banned.

Just last night, I attended a high school soccer game between two rivals, let's say teams A and B. Last year, team A beat B three times and went to the state finals before losing. They also lost 9 starters.

Last night, team B got off to a 4-0 lead and a student unfurled a school flag that was about three times normal size and started running back and forth in front of team A's fans. Valid taunting in my opinion.

Yes indeed. If the person is on the field and authorized to do that yes. If they are in the stands and obstructing someone's view of the game then NO.

Good lord, banning flags in the stands at a soccer match? That's just crazy talk.

No one is calling for that either. Soccer games are much different, certain parts of the stadium are designated for that kind of thing.

Now if the school wanted to designate a flag flying section of the stadium, I wouldn't have a problem with that either.

But let's cut the crap here. We all know that some on this forum simply want bigots to have the opportunity to taunt minorities.

Since this thread was about Travelers Rest HS and Berea HS which minority was being taunted? Name the minority group that was being taunted.

(08-30-2016 12:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:46 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:18 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I agree in principle but it can be difficult culling out the knuckleheads.

By the way, I don't suggest that general taunting be banned.

Just last night, I attended a high school soccer game between two rivals, let's say teams A and B. Last year, team A beat B three times and went to the state finals before losing. They also lost 9 starters.

Last night, team B got off to a 4-0 lead and a student unfurled a school flag that was about three times normal size and started running back and forth in front of team A's fans. Valid taunting in my opinion.

Yes indeed. If the person is on the field and authorized to do that yes. If they are in the stands and obstructing someone's view of the game then NO.

Good lord, banning flags in the stands at a soccer match? That's just crazy talk.

No one is calling for that either. Soccer games are much different, certain parts of the stadium are designated for that kind of thing.

Now if the school wanted to designate a flag flying section of the stadium, I wouldn't have a problem with that either.

But let's cut the crap here. We all know that some on this forum simply want bigots to have the opportunity to taunt minorities.

Since this thread was about Travelers Rest HS and Berea HS which minority was being taunted? Name the minority group that was being taunted.

damn... Kaplony with that upper cut!

(08-30-2016 12:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:46 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:18 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:11 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I agree in principle but it can be difficult culling out the knuckleheads.

By the way, I don't suggest that general taunting be banned.

Just last night, I attended a high school soccer game between two rivals, let's say teams A and B. Last year, team A beat B three times and went to the state finals before losing. They also lost 9 starters.

Last night, team B got off to a 4-0 lead and a student unfurled a school flag that was about three times normal size and started running back and forth in front of team A's fans. Valid taunting in my opinion.

Yes indeed. If the person is on the field and authorized to do that yes. If they are in the stands and obstructing someone's view of the game then NO.

Good lord, banning flags in the stands at a soccer match? That's just crazy talk.

No one is calling for that either. Soccer games are much different, certain parts of the stadium are designated for that kind of thing.

Now if the school wanted to designate a flag flying section of the stadium, I wouldn't have a problem with that either.

But let's cut the crap here. We all know that some on this forum simply want bigots to have the opportunity to taunt minorities.

Since this thread was about Travelers Rest HS and Berea HS which minority was being taunted? Name the minority group that was being taunted.

"because a lot of students at Berega are Hispanic. Lavely contends the American flag could have been used to taunt those students, WNCN reports.:"

After doing some research I found out the following.

Berea High School is 28 % Hispanic and 40% White

Travelers Rest High School is 5% Hispanic and 77% White

Need I say more?

(08-30-2016 03:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:46 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:18 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Yes indeed. If the person is on the field and authorized to do that yes. If they are in the stands and obstructing someone's view of the game then NO.

Good lord, banning flags in the stands at a soccer match? That's just crazy talk.

No one is calling for that either. Soccer games are much different, certain parts of the stadium are designated for that kind of thing.

Now if the school wanted to designate a flag flying section of the stadium, I wouldn't have a problem with that either.

But let's cut the crap here. We all know that some on this forum simply want bigots to have the opportunity to taunt minorities.

Since this thread was about Travelers Rest HS and Berea HS which minority was being taunted? Name the minority group that was being taunted.

"because a lot of students at Berega are Hispanic. Lavely contends the American flag could have been used to taunt those students, WNCN reports.:"

So the Hispanics that were supposedly being taunted were the sub-group of Hispanics that aren't Caucasian?

(08-30-2016 03:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 03:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 12:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:46 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 11:18 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Good lord, banning flags in the stands at a soccer match? That's just crazy talk.

No one is calling for that either. Soccer games are much different, certain parts of the stadium are designated for that kind of thing.

Now if the school wanted to designate a flag flying section of the stadium, I wouldn't have a problem with that either.

But let's cut the crap here. We all know that some on this forum simply want bigots to have the opportunity to taunt minorities.

Since this thread was about Travelers Rest HS and Berea HS which minority was being taunted? Name the minority group that was being taunted.

"because a lot of students at Berega are Hispanic. Lavely contends the American flag could have been used to taunt those students, WNCN reports.:"

So the Hispanics that were supposedly being taunted were the sub-group of Hispanics that aren't Caucasian?

What on earth are you talking about?

(08-29-2016 12:43 PM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  Flags shouldn't be brought into games period. Waving flags of any kind violates the rights of the most important group...the people sitting behind the flag waver's rights to view the damn game.

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(08-29-2016 02:38 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  Using the flag to taunt and be verbally abusive to others is not respectful to the flag period. These people are disrespecting the flag and what it represents. Should the flag be banned, no. Should using the flag in a disrespectful manner be banned, oh ******* definitely.

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