Dear EagleTough,
Well said. I agree.

(08-23-2016 04:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  The team depth, and the team in general is just fine, with or without Roback or Terrell. As mentioned, Terrell had already been bypassed by Nielson, and his knees are so bad he was done. Opportunities for the younger guys to step up.

The players are just as confident with Porter, as they are with Roback. We'll see how he performs in game situations and go from there. The likelihood that Roback suddenly morphed into an all MAC player this year was slim to begin with. Being suspended, going into your Junior year, knowing the job is 100% yours, only gives more credence to the argument that he just doesn't have what it takes to be the leader of this team.

He'll be back if needed, but Porter may just take the reins and run with his opportunity. Definitely doesn't have the arm talent that Roback has, but what is arm talent if you don't have the mental or leadership qualities to go along with it?

If Roback ends up the backup, or transferring, it is 100% on him. If Porter doesn't show the talent, and Roback comes back and redeems himself and plays really well, maybe it will be remembered as the great turning point.

The good news about Stiebeling is that he is apparently mature beyond his years, has a little edge/confidence to him, and has already earned the respect of his teammates. He is already the third QB at this point (actually the backup while Roback suspended).

We'll be ready to go come Sept. 2nd! Everyone relax......and get to the game.

Oh, I wouldn't get all fired up about Porter just yet......

(08-23-2016 04:05 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear EagleTough,
Well said. I agree.

This is Creighton's 3rd year, no more excuses. This is the point where the roster should be turning over, hopefully with the younger guys that have been around a year or 2, stepping up to claim their spots. Guys that have coasted or underperformed for a year or 2 should be getting replaced.

It should be the natural progression of a team getting better. If we're being led by a bunch of 4th or 5th year guys that haven't won anything, that's a bad sign.

I believe we'll see a lot of new faces stepping up and playing well this year.

(08-23-2016 04:22 PM)2Intense Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 04:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  The team depth, and the team in general is just fine, with or without Roback or Terrell. As mentioned, Terrell had already been bypassed by Nielson, and his knees are so bad he was done. Opportunities for the younger guys to step up.

The players are just as confident with Porter, as they are with Roback. We'll see how he performs in game situations and go from there. The likelihood that Roback suddenly morphed into an all MAC player this year was slim to begin with. Being suspended, going into your Junior year, knowing the job is 100% yours, only gives more credence to the argument that he just doesn't have what it takes to be the leader of this team.

He'll be back if needed, but Porter may just take the reins and run with his opportunity. Definitely doesn't have the arm talent that Roback has, but what is arm talent if you don't have the mental or leadership qualities to go along with it?

If Roback ends up the backup, or transferring, it is 100% on him. If Porter doesn't show the talent, and Roback comes back and redeems himself and plays really well, maybe it will be remembered as the great turning point.

The good news about Stiebeling is that he is apparently mature beyond his years, has a little edge/confidence to him, and has already earned the respect of his teammates. He is already the third QB at this point (actually the backup while Roback suspended).

We'll be ready to go come Sept. 2nd! Everyone relax......and get to the game.

Oh, I wouldn't get all fired up about Porter just yet......

Not all fired up at all, and he could fall flat on his face in real game action. I will have no real opinion until I see him live on Sept. 2nd. My only real point was that the players feel like they have just as much chance to win with him at QB, as they do with Roback. For whatever reason.

I am no more worried or excited about Porter, than I was about Roback. Roback just basically took another step backwards. Porter is a total unknown.

(08-23-2016 04:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  The team depth, and the team in general is just fine, with or without Roback or Terrell. As mentioned, Terrell had already been bypassed by Nielson, and his knees are so bad he was done. Opportunities for the younger guys to step up.

The players are just as confident with Porter, as they are with Roback. We'll see how he performs in game situations and go from there. The likelihood that Roback suddenly morphed into an all MAC player this year was slim to begin with. Being suspended, going into your Junior year, knowing the job is 100% yours, only gives more credence to the argument that he just doesn't have what it takes to be the leader of this team.

He'll be back if needed, but Porter may just take the reins and run with his opportunity. Definitely doesn't have the arm talent that Roback has, but what is arm talent if you don't have the mental or leadership qualities to go along with it?

If Roback ends up the backup, or transferring, it is 100% on him. If Porter doesn't show the talent, and Roback comes back and redeems himself and plays really well, maybe it will be remembered as the great turning point.

The good news about Stiebeling is that he is apparently mature beyond his years, has a little edge/confidence to him, and has already earned the respect of his teammates. He is already the third QB at this point (actually the backup while Roback suspended).

We'll be ready to go come Sept. 2nd! Everyone relax......and get to the game.

The obligatory, "Nothing to see folks, nothing to see, move along" post.

-Dr. Everything B. Alright

(08-23-2016 05:57 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 04:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  The team depth, and the team in general is just fine, with or without Roback or Terrell. As mentioned, Terrell had already been bypassed by Nielson, and his knees are so bad he was done. Opportunities for the younger guys to step up.

The players are just as confident with Porter, as they are with Roback. We'll see how he performs in game situations and go from there. The likelihood that Roback suddenly morphed into an all MAC player this year was slim to begin with. Being suspended, going into your Junior year, knowing the job is 100% yours, only gives more credence to the argument that he just doesn't have what it takes to be the leader of this team.

He'll be back if needed, but Porter may just take the reins and run with his opportunity. Definitely doesn't have the arm talent that Roback has, but what is arm talent if you don't have the mental or leadership qualities to go along with it?

If Roback ends up the backup, or transferring, it is 100% on him. If Porter doesn't show the talent, and Roback comes back and redeems himself and plays really well, maybe it will be remembered as the great turning point.

The good news about Stiebeling is that he is apparently mature beyond his years, has a little edge/confidence to him, and has already earned the respect of his teammates. He is already the third QB at this point (actually the backup while Roback suspended).

We'll be ready to go come Sept. 2nd! Everyone relax......and get to the game.

The obligatory, "Nothing to see folks, nothing to see, move along" post.

-Dr. Everything B. Alright

FU Bob. Don't comment on my posts and I won't comment on yours.

I know there's some elbowing going on, but Bob used a really good Prince reference and that will not go unnoticed.

(08-23-2016 06:16 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 05:57 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 04:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  The team depth, and the team in general is just fine, with or without Roback or Terrell. As mentioned, Terrell had already been bypassed by Nielson, and his knees are so bad he was done. Opportunities for the younger guys to step up.

The players are just as confident with Porter, as they are with Roback. We'll see how he performs in game situations and go from there. The likelihood that Roback suddenly morphed into an all MAC player this year was slim to begin with. Being suspended, going into your Junior year, knowing the job is 100% yours, only gives more credence to the argument that he just doesn't have what it takes to be the leader of this team.

He'll be back if needed, but Porter may just take the reins and run with his opportunity. Definitely doesn't have the arm talent that Roback has, but what is arm talent if you don't have the mental or leadership qualities to go along with it?

If Roback ends up the backup, or transferring, it is 100% on him. If Porter doesn't show the talent, and Roback comes back and redeems himself and plays really well, maybe it will be remembered as the great turning point.

The good news about Stiebeling is that he is apparently mature beyond his years, has a little edge/confidence to him, and has already earned the respect of his teammates. He is already the third QB at this point (actually the backup while Roback suspended).

We'll be ready to go come Sept. 2nd! Everyone relax......and get to the game.

The obligatory, "Nothing to see folks, nothing to see, move along" post.

-Dr. Everything B. Alright

FU Bob. Don't comment on my posts and I won't comment on yours.

re: depth

Terrell going down w/ an injury won't make or break the team. To an extent, you could've said about POC last year. It wasn't POC's injury, it was his injury, Harris', Ikie's, Zappone, Hunter Matt not playing, and it just continually snowballed. Sure these things can expose depth (or the lack thereof), but I think EMU's OL group is deep and talented. I'd put in the upper third of the MAC. The OL that CC brought in had solid upside and were basically all redshirted to beef up with McKeefery for a couple of years.

Now if we start seeing Gardner, Armstrong, Wylie, etc. all go down... well...

(08-23-2016 06:29 PM)NotAlexGillett Wrote:  I know there's some elbowing going on, but Bob used a really good Prince reference and that will not go unnoticed.

(08-23-2016 06:16 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 05:57 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 04:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  The team depth, and the team in general is just fine, with or without Roback or Terrell. As mentioned, Terrell had already been bypassed by Nielson, and his knees are so bad he was done. Opportunities for the younger guys to step up.

The players are just as confident with Porter, as they are with Roback. We'll see how he performs in game situations and go from there. The likelihood that Roback suddenly morphed into an all MAC player this year was slim to begin with. Being suspended, going into your Junior year, knowing the job is 100% yours, only gives more credence to the argument that he just doesn't have what it takes to be the leader of this team.

He'll be back if needed, but Porter may just take the reins and run with his opportunity. Definitely doesn't have the arm talent that Roback has, but what is arm talent if you don't have the mental or leadership qualities to go along with it?

If Roback ends up the backup, or transferring, it is 100% on him. If Porter doesn't show the talent, and Roback comes back and redeems himself and plays really well, maybe it will be remembered as the great turning point.

The good news about Stiebeling is that he is apparently mature beyond his years, has a little edge/confidence to him, and has already earned the respect of his teammates. He is already the third QB at this point (actually the backup while Roback suspended).

We'll be ready to go come Sept. 2nd! Everyone relax......and get to the game.

The obligatory, "Nothing to see folks, nothing to see, move in yo along" post.

-Dr. Everything B. Alright

FU Bob. Don't comment on my posts and I won't comment on yours.

But eagle tough gets bonus points for incorporating part of a April wine
Song

(08-23-2016 06:44 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:29 PM)NotAlexGillett Wrote:  I know there's some elbowing going on, but Bob used a really good Prince reference and that will not go unnoticed.

(08-23-2016 06:16 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 05:57 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 04:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  The team depth, and the team in general is just fine, with or without Roback or Terrell. As mentioned, Terrell had already been bypassed by Nielson, and his knees are so bad he was done. Opportunities for the younger guys to step up.

The players are just as confident with Porter, as they are with Roback. We'll see how he performs in game situations and go from there. The likelihood that Roback suddenly morphed into an all MAC player this year was slim to begin with. Being suspended, going into your Junior year, knowing the job is 100% yours, only gives more credence to the argument that he just doesn't have what it takes to be the leader of this team.

He'll be back if needed, but Porter may just take the reins and run with his opportunity. Definitely doesn't have the arm talent that Roback has, but what is arm talent if you don't have the mental or leadership qualities to go along with it?

If Roback ends up the backup, or transferring, it is 100% on him. If Porter doesn't show the talent, and Roback comes back and redeems himself and plays really well, maybe it will be remembered as the great turning point.

The good news about Stiebeling is that he is apparently mature beyond his years, has a little edge/confidence to him, and has already earned the respect of his teammates. He is already the third QB at this point (actually the backup while Roback suspended).

We'll be ready to go come Sept. 2nd! Everyone relax......and get to the game.

The obligatory, "Nothing to see folks, nothing to see, move in yo along" post.

-Dr. Everything B. Alright

FU Bob. Don't comment on my posts and I won't comment on yours.

But eagle tough gets bonus points for incorporating part of a April wine
Song

This coaching staff has completely mismanaged Roback from day 1. This is not surprising.

(08-23-2016 06:44 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:29 PM)NotAlexGillett Wrote:  I know there's some elbowing going on, but Bob used a really good Prince reference and that will not go unnoticed.

(08-23-2016 06:16 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 05:57 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 04:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  The team depth, and the team in general is just fine, with or without Roback or Terrell. As mentioned, Terrell had already been bypassed by Nielson, and his knees are so bad he was done. Opportunities for the younger guys to step up.

The players are just as confident with Porter, as they are with Roback. We'll see how he performs in game situations and go from there. The likelihood that Roback suddenly morphed into an all MAC player this year was slim to begin with. Being suspended, going into your Junior year, knowing the job is 100% yours, only gives more credence to the argument that he just doesn't have what it takes to be the leader of this team.

He'll be back if needed, but Porter may just take the reins and run with his opportunity. Definitely doesn't have the arm talent that Roback has, but what is arm talent if you don't have the mental or leadership qualities to go along with it?

If Roback ends up the backup, or transferring, it is 100% on him. If Porter doesn't show the talent, and Roback comes back and redeems himself and plays really well, maybe it will be remembered as the great turning point.

The good news about Stiebeling is that he is apparently mature beyond his years, has a little edge/confidence to him, and has already earned the respect of his teammates. He is already the third QB at this point (actually the backup while Roback suspended).

We'll be ready to go come Sept. 2nd! Everyone relax......and get to the game.

The obligatory, "Nothing to see folks, nothing to see, move in yo along" post.

-Dr. Everything B. Alright

FU Bob. Don't comment on my posts and I won't comment on yours.

But eagle tough gets bonus points for incorporating part of a April wine
Song

Two things: No one has listened to April Wine since 1982 and the Real Alex Gillett was a hell of a tough competitor, great leader at QB for EMU. He also turned out to be a natural receiver. I miss him and am glad NotAlexGillett is on board. #8

(08-24-2016 06:34 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:44 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 06:29 PM)NotAlexGillett Wrote:  I know there's some elbowing going on, but Bob used a really good Prince reference and that will not go unnoticed.

(08-23-2016 06:16 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(08-23-2016 05:57 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  The obligatory, "Nothing to see folks, nothing to see, move in yo along" post.

-Dr. Everything B. Alright

FU Bob. Don't comment on my posts and I won't comment on yours.

But eagle tough gets bonus points for incorporating part of a April wine
Song

Two things: No one has listened to April Wine since 1982 and the Real Alex Gillett was a hell of a tough competitor, great leader at QB for EMU. He also turned out to be a natural receiver. I miss him and am glad NotAlexGillett is on board. #8

Wow no one has listened to April wine since 1982? That's longer than anyone has listened to you Bob

From a coach who doesn't allow cursing, the suspension could literally be for anything, couldn't it?

(08-24-2016 10:09 AM)TimBuck2 Wrote:  From a coach who doesn't allow cursing, the suspension could literally be for anything, couldn't it?

He is the coach so he makes the rules

(08-24-2016 10:09 AM)TimBuck2 Wrote:  From a coach who doesn't allow cursing, the suspension could literally be for anything, couldn't it?

If CC doesn't make it as EMU HC, he could go back to Iowa and run for public office.

Damn, I when I was in h.s. a kid in our phy ed class gave the teacher the finger. Teacher saw it and said, "Do it again and I'll *********** break it off."

This was many years ago in HIGH SCHOOL.

And when English was here he made some off handed remark about not recruiting players from single parent families maybe emu wanted a coach that swear worse than a sailor Englishs last game rant was a classic every other word was beeped out

Roback certainly didn't get suspended for cursing. It was a valid suspension, for a bonehead move. Somebody mentioned 1 game yesterday, I heard 2. The second game is Missouri, so 1 or 2 is really irrelevant to wins/losses.

He seems remorseful, and saying all the right things, so hopefully this will be his wake up call.

On the cursing note, it's just overkill and unnecessary. Of course there can't be loud cursing up and down the halls of the football building, but the hard line, excessive discipline doesn't work. Creighton is one extreme, and English was the other extreme. At the extremes, the kids either lose respect, and/or just tune the coach out.

(08-24-2016 12:52 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Roback certainly didn't get suspended for cursing. It was a valid suspension, for a bonehead move. Somebody mentioned 1 game yesterday, I heard 2. The second game is Missouri, so 1 or 2 is really irrelevant to wins/losses.

He seems remorseful, and saying all the right things, so hopefully this will be his wake up call.

On the cursing note, it's just overkill and unnecessary. Of course there can't be loud cursing up and down the halls of the football building, but the hard line, excessive discipline doesn't work. Creighton is one extreme, and English was the other extreme. At the extremes, the kids either lose respect, and/or just tune the coach out.

"Creighton is one extreme, and English was the other extreme. At the extremes, the kids either lose respect, and/or just tune the coach out."

I agree. This isn't CYO or a bunch of seminarian. It isn't a bunch of friends out on Saturday night drinking in a private residence either.

(08-24-2016 01:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 12:52 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Roback certainly didn't get suspended for cursing. It was a valid suspension, for a bonehead move. Somebody mentioned 1 game yesterday, I heard 2. The second game is Missouri, so 1 or 2 is really irrelevant to wins/losses.

He seems remorseful, and saying all the right things, so hopefully this will be his wake up call.

On the cursing note, it's just overkill and unnecessary. Of course there can't be loud cursing up and down the halls of the football building, but the hard line, excessive discipline doesn't work. Creighton is one extreme, and English was the other extreme. At the extremes, the kids either lose respect, and/or just tune the coach out.

"Creighton is one extreme, and English was the other extreme. At the extremes, the kids either lose respect, and/or just tune the coach out."

I agree. This isn't CYO or a bunch of seminarian. It isn't a bunch of friends out on Saturday night drinking in a private residence either.

The other funny/hypocritical thing,............ there are current coaches who curse as bad or worse than English probably ever did.

(08-24-2016 01:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(08-24-2016 12:52 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Roback certainly didn't get suspended for cursing. It was a valid suspension, for a bonehead move. Somebody mentioned 1 game yesterday, I heard 2. The second game is Missouri, so 1 or 2 is really irrelevant to wins/losses.

He seems remorseful, and saying all the right things, so hopefully this will be his wake up call.

On the cursing note, it's just overkill and unnecessary. Of course there can't be loud cursing up and down the halls of the football building, but the hard line, excessive discipline doesn't work. Creighton is one extreme, and English was the other extreme. At the extremes, the kids either lose respect, and/or just tune the coach out.

"Creighton is one extreme, and English was the other extreme. At the extremes, the kids either lose respect, and/or just tune the coach out."

I agree. This isn't CYO or a bunch of seminarian. It isn't a bunch of friends out on Saturday night drinking in a private residence either.

I think Creighton himself said this got too much attention after his hiring. He uses it more as a general rule. I think he said something like "I want to comfortably be able to bring my kids to practice."

I'm sure no coaches or players are getting in serious trouble for dropping a four-letter word here or there...