(08-09-2016 01:12 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:03 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 12:59 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  This is about one Head Coach, not coaches.

I'm sure there are non-FCA affiliated coaches at that school. LOL.

I am sure you can provide concrete evidence that all coaches at that school are FCA affiliated...

Dude, read the article. http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/arti...-football/

I did, where does it say that every coach in Kennedy's school is FCA affiliated?

You miss the point.

I've never met a non-FCA affiliated assistant or head football coach in high school in Alabama. Nary a one.

Basically, my starting point is that if the head guy is FCA, then I'll bet you that every single person in his reporting group is too.

Hmmm... I think he wins this one. You can't deny him his prayer because it MIGHT coerce a kid. You have to show it did.

Look! Tom hates Christians.

(08-09-2016 01:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:12 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:03 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I'm sure there are non-FCA affiliated coaches at that school. LOL.

I am sure you can provide concrete evidence that all coaches at that school are FCA affiliated...

Dude, read the article. http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/arti...-football/

I did, where does it say that every coach in Kennedy's school is FCA affiliated?

You miss the point.

I've never met a non-FCA affiliated assistant or head football coach in high school in Alabama. Nary a one.

Basically, my starting point is that if the head guy is FCA, then I'll bet you that every single person in his reporting group is too.

so no concrete evidence that a coach at Kennedy's school is FCA affiliated, just you making assumptions.

(08-09-2016 01:37 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:12 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:03 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  I am sure you can provide concrete evidence that all coaches at that school are FCA affiliated...

Dude, read the article. http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/arti...-football/

I did, where does it say that every coach in Kennedy's school is FCA affiliated?

You miss the point.

I've never met a non-FCA affiliated assistant or head football coach in high school in Alabama. Nary a one.

Basically, my starting point is that if the head guy is FCA, then I'll bet you that every single person in his reporting group is too.

so no concrete evidence that a coach at Kennedy's school is FCA affiliated, just you making assumptions.

I'm sure if you give it a few minutes he'll find a way to tie this all to Putin as well.

I must be missing something, but it seems as Tom thinks membership in FCA is mandatory to play sports in high school.

(08-09-2016 01:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:12 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:03 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I'm sure there are non-FCA affiliated coaches at that school. LOL.

I am sure you can provide concrete evidence that all coaches at that school are FCA affiliated...

Dude, read the article. http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/arti...-football/

I did, where does it say that every coach in Kennedy's school is FCA affiliated?

You miss the point.

I've never met a non-FCA affiliated assistant or head football coach in high school in Alabama. Nary a one.

Basically, my starting point is that if the head guy is FCA, then I'll bet you that every single person in his reporting group is too.

Having served on several high school coaching staffs in multiple sports I'll take that bet. Name your terms.

I hope the coach wins the lawsuit. His right to pray on the football field did not end once he became a coach.

Tom must've gotten a lot of wedgies in high school.

(08-09-2016 01:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:37 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:12 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Dude, read the article. http://highschoolsports.al.com/news/arti...-football/

I did, where does it say that every coach in Kennedy's school is FCA affiliated?

You miss the point.

I've never met a non-FCA affiliated assistant or head football coach in high school in Alabama. Nary a one.

Basically, my starting point is that if the head guy is FCA, then I'll bet you that every single person in his reporting group is too.

so no concrete evidence that a coach at Kennedy's school is FCA affiliated, just you making assumptions.

I'm sure if you give it a few minutes he'll find a way to tie this all to Putin as well.

Throw Trump in there as well

(08-09-2016 01:48 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I must be missing something, but it seems as Tom thinks membership in FCA is mandatory to play sports in high school.

Read the article I linked to. The coaches are putting ministry ahead of the team. In the public schools. And that is the FCA model.

And good luck getting into HS coaching in some parts if you rightly don't allow outside fundy groups special access to cram evangelical religion down the players throats using the implied authority of the coaches.

(08-09-2016 03:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:48 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I must be missing something, but it seems as Tom thinks membership in FCA is mandatory to play sports in high school.

Read the article I linked to. The coaches are putting ministry ahead of the team. In the public schools. And that is the FCA model.

And good luck getting into HS coaching in some parts if you rightly don't allow outside fundy groups special access to cram evangelical religion down the players throats using the implied authority of the coaches.

Is this a recent phenomenon running rampant across the nation's high schools these days? I remember FCA back in high school, lots of kids were members but never did religion come up during practices/games other than a simple prayer every now and then and there was never any evangelizing, etc. Unless things have done a 180 this seems to be nothing more than ANOTHER example of folks making mountains out of molehills, etc.

(08-09-2016 03:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:48 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I must be missing something, but it seems as Tom thinks membership in FCA is mandatory to play sports in high school.

Read the article I linked to. The coaches are putting ministry ahead of the team. In the public schools. And that is the FCA model.

And good luck getting into HS coaching in some parts if you rightly don't allow outside fundy groups special access to cram evangelical religion down the players throats using the implied authority of the coaches.

I did read it. Must have missed where the coach said he put "ministry ahead of of the team". Once again, you interpretation does not line up with fact.

(08-09-2016 03:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  folks making mountains out of molehills

our culture never does that

(08-09-2016 03:22 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 03:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  folks making mountains out of molehills

our culture never does that

I agree and in this case it makes no sense. Just some folks looking to be offended I guess.

OP can't be bothered to read the biggest political news story of the last 24 hrs but he can be bothered to find the latest persecuted christian sob story. sounds about right.

(08-09-2016 03:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  OP can't be bothered to read the biggest political news story of the last 24 hrs but he can be bothered to find the latest persecuted christian sob story. sounds about right.

(08-09-2016 03:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 03:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:48 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I must be missing something, but it seems as Tom thinks membership in FCA is mandatory to play sports in high school.

Read the article I linked to. The coaches are putting ministry ahead of the team. In the public schools. And that is the FCA model.

And good luck getting into HS coaching in some parts if you rightly don't allow outside fundy groups special access to cram evangelical religion down the players throats using the implied authority of the coaches.

Is this a recent phenomenon running rampant across the nation's high schools these days? I remember FCA back in high school, lots of kids were members but never did religion come up during practices/games other than a simple prayer every now and then and there was never any evangelizing, etc. Unless things have done a 180 this seems to be nothing more than ANOTHER example of folks making mountains out of molehills, etc.

Maybe in Virginia, coaches don't try to steer players to the FCA. Not my experience in Alabama.

(08-09-2016 03:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 03:17 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 03:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 01:48 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I must be missing something, but it seems as Tom thinks membership in FCA is mandatory to play sports in high school.

Read the article I linked to. The coaches are putting ministry ahead of the team. In the public schools. And that is the FCA model.

And good luck getting into HS coaching in some parts if you rightly don't allow outside fundy groups special access to cram evangelical religion down the players throats using the implied authority of the coaches.

Is this a recent phenomenon running rampant across the nation's high schools these days? I remember FCA back in high school, lots of kids were members but never did religion come up during practices/games other than a simple prayer every now and then and there was never any evangelizing, etc. Unless things have done a 180 this seems to be nothing more than ANOTHER example of folks making mountains out of molehills, etc.

Maybe in Virginia, coaches don't try to steer players to the FCA. Not my experience in Alabama.

I wouldn't know about Virginia. Doesn't matter though. Your experiences are not the final authority on what happens all around the country.

(08-09-2016 11:50 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  If he requested a prayer mat facing Mecca this would be no big deal.

If he requested a prayer mat facing Mecca, hew would have been a speaker at the Democratic National Convention.