(08-04-2016 07:34 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: (08-04-2016 07:25 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote: (08-04-2016 06:56 PM)BruceMcF Wrote: (08-04-2016 04:11 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote: Chip Brown's latest article was pretty negative in regards to expansion happening.
Would not be surprised if the Big 12 schools take the money and tell the G5 schools bye.
This doesn't make much sense. "The money" is the pro-rata increase in the ESPN / Fox contracts, combined with unequal revenue shares in the current contract, leading to more money for the incumbents.
There is no "the money" to take if they "tell the G5 schools bye".
each new school added would be at a cost of $22.5 million per team per year on average for 8 years or a total cost per team added of $180 million over 8 years
so if two teams are added it is a cost of about $180 million over 8 years for ESPN and for Fox
the idea being that Fox and ESPN could save a ton of money if instead of paying $180 million each over 8 years to add two teams they do not want to pay that much for or $360 million each over 8 years for 4 teams they do not want to pay that much for they can simply pay the 10 members of the Big 12 some portion of that money like say $2 million per team per year for a total cost of $10 million to Fox and $10 million to ESPN each year over 8 years or a total of $80 million each to Fox and ESPN which saves each of them $100 million over 8 years if the Big 12 was "wanting" to add 2 teams and $280 million each over 8 years if the Big 12 was "wanting" to add 4 teams
would you rather pay $80 million that you do not want to pay or $180 to $360 million you do not want to pay over 8 years
Fox wants to expand though. I'm going to keep posting this. Fox needs more content for FS1, even with the B1G coming in 2017 they want more. Forget want, they NEED more. More games means they have more options to add more games every weekend.
Multiple games on Fox OTA and multiple games on FS1 every Saturday. Thats what they need to truly go head to head with ESPN.
we really do not know if Fox wants to expand or not we have a bunch of losers that are suppose to be journalist saying things like that so they can have something to make up a story about, but we really do not know if there is any truth to it at all
and really for that matter we do not know if the Big 12 really even wants to expand at all or if they really just want more money
when the idiot boren was all excited about expansion it was because he was stupid enough to think that the Big 12 was getting a network, but once that was shot down and the Big 12 agreed to a CCG without expansion he was content as things were
and more so does Fox want to expand with the teams that the Big 12 MIGHT want to expand with.....if the Big 12 really "wants" two teams that Fox has no interest in because they are already in an area that Fox has a lot of teams then the benefit to Fox is diminished
if there is disagreement between ESPN and Fox on teams they could be talking about Fox paying more of the cost so that the Big 12 adds the teams Fox prefers because perhaps adding those teams might come much more at the expense of ESPN
or perhaps ESPN will pay a bit more of Fox is ok with adding teams that come with a much lower "expense" to ESPN like a team or teams out of the MWC instead of the ACC
but is any of that OK with the Big 12
which gets us back to the stupidity of all of this especially having it all out so publicly
there are no great options, no good options, no options that everyone will really like and a lot of garbage that comes with most of the options and that garbage keeps getting piled higher and stinking more as politicians get involved and as it is "reported" that those footing the bills are not happy
which makes it a lot easier to sit down, pay a bit more money and everyone moves on with getting mostly what they want
ESPN and Fox paying a lot less money than they could have paid for teams they might not really have wanted, the Big 12 getting paid more and perhaps Fox wishing they had gotten a particular team and a few Big 12 wall flowers wishing they could hang their future on some G5 schools performing better than they plan on their program doing and ESPN upset they had to pay a bit more
but that is a hell of a lot better than cramming 2-4 teams in the Big 12 that most members and their fan bases care nothing about, the consequences of the long term cost of that, putting up with the two tier payments that would have to last for 8 years, your media partners really feeling taken advantage of and then 8 years from now you probably are more likely to lose top programs anyway
why not take more money, concentrate on building your program in the Big 12 instead of hoping some G5ers getting less than a half share "save you in a P5 conference" and move on