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Hahaha - Clinton had to use students in Omaha to stand in for supporters
The debacle of a rally she held in Omaha had attendance so poor that they had to divert students of the school to the gym in order to give the appearance it was full of supporters.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/...hool-kids/
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03-lmfao

But she is up in the polls!!!

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(08-04-2016 05:01 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  03-lmfao

But she is up in the polls!!!

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Equating huge crowds or the lack of them to votes is a very misguided approach to handicapping this race.
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(08-04-2016 05:20 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Equating huge crowds or the lack of them to votes is a very misguided approach to handicapping this race.

says the team who cant fill a small church with supporters.
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(08-04-2016 05:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(08-04-2016 05:20 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Equating huge crowds or the lack of them to votes is a very misguided approach to handicapping this race.

says the team who cant fill a small church with supporters.

I've been on the other side of that situation before. I learned my lesson.
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I don't put much stock in August polls, but I put even less stock in rally crowd size. Could be a case of there being more Hillary voters, but less enthusiastic.

Bernie packed stadiums and lost. Even Ron Paul was a crowd magnet wherever he went.
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It looks like the line at a Luby's.
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(08-04-2016 05:20 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Equating huge crowds or the lack of them to votes is a very misguided approach to handicapping this race.
On the surface, you are correct, but voter enthusiasm is a factor. And unlike Bernie, Trump's following showed up to the primaries.

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(08-04-2016 07:21 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-04-2016 05:20 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Equating huge crowds or the lack of them to votes is a very misguided approach to handicapping this race.
On the surface, you are correct, but voter enthusiasm is a factor. And unlike Bernie, Trump's following showed up to the primaries.

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Or offset by superdelegates, or sabotaged by his own party... hopefully.
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(08-04-2016 06:50 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Could be a case of there being more Hillary voters, but less enthusiastic.

This is probably the case, and that's dangerous for Hillary if they aren't enthusiastic enough to leave their house and vote.
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(08-04-2016 10:18 PM)Chappy Wrote:  
(08-04-2016 06:50 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Could be a case of there being more Hillary voters, but less enthusiastic.

This is probably the case, and that's dangerous for Hillary if they aren't enthusiastic enough to leave their house and vote.

A very real issue. 'likely voters' has a tough time predicting enthusiasm... and it is far easier to answer your phone than to vote
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(08-04-2016 11:05 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(08-04-2016 10:18 PM)Chappy Wrote:  
(08-04-2016 06:50 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Could be a case of there being more Hillary voters, but less enthusiastic.

This is probably the case, and that's dangerous for Hillary if they aren't enthusiastic enough to leave their house and vote.

A very real issue. 'likely voters' has a tough time predicting enthusiasm... and it is far easier to answer your phone than to vote

and the fox news poll was registered voters. I cant even believe anyone is still using registered voters.
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What did Nancy Pelosi call this kind of crap?
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PEGGY NOONAN'S BLOG
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Nov 5, 2012 11:35 am ET
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We begin with the three words everyone writing about the election must say: Nobody knows anything. Everyone’s guessing. I spent Sunday morning in Washington with journalists and political hands, one of whom said she feels it’s Obama, the rest of whom said they don’t know. I think it’s Romney. I think he’s stealing in “like a thief with good tools,” in Walker Percy’s old words. While everyone is looking at the polls and the storm, Romney’s slipping into the presidency. He’s quietly rising, and he’s been rising for a while.

Obama and the storm, it was like a wave that lifted him and then moved on, leaving him where he’d been. Parts of Jersey and New York are a cold Katrina. The exact dimensions of the disaster will become clearer when the election is over. One word: infrastructure. Officials knew the storm was coming and everyone knew it would be bad, but the people of the tristate area were not aware, until now, just how vulnerable to deep damage their physical system was. The people in charge of that system are the politicians. Mayor Bloomberg wanted to have the Marathon, to show New York’s spirit. In Staten Island last week they were bitterly calling it “the race through the ruins.” There is a disconnect.

But to the election. Who knows what to make of the weighting of the polls and the assumptions as to who will vote? Who knows the depth and breadth of each party’s turnout efforts? Among the wisest words spoken this cycle were by John Dickerson of CBS News and Slate, who said, in a conversation the night before the last presidential debate, that he thought maybe the American people were quietly cooking something up, something we don’t know about.

I think they are and I think it’s this: a Romney win.

Romney’s crowds are building—28,000 in Morrisville, Pa., last night; 30,000 in West Chester, Ohio, Friday It isn’t only a triumph of advance planning: People came, they got through security and waited for hours in the cold. His rallies look like rallies now, not enactments. In some new way he’s caught his stride. He looks happy and grateful. His closing speech has been positive, future-looking, sweetly patriotic. His closing ads are sharp—the one about what’s going on at the rallies is moving.

All the vibrations are right. A person who is helping him who is not a longtime Romneyite told me, yesterday: “I joined because I was anti Obama—I’m a patriot, I’ll join up But now I am pro-Romney.” Why? “I’ve spent time with him and I care about him and admire him. He’s a genuinely good man.” Looking at the crowds on TV, hearing them chant “Three more days” and “Two more days”—it feels like a lot of Republicans have gone from anti-Obama to pro-Romney.

Something old is roaring back. One of the Romney campaign’s surrogates, who appeared at a rally with him the other night, spoke of the intensity and joy of the crowd “I worked the rope line, people wouldn’t let go of my hand.” It startled him. A former political figure who’s been in Ohio told me this morning something is moving with evangelicals, other church-going Protestants and religious Catholics. He said what’s happening with them is quiet, unreported and spreading: They really want Romney now, they’ll go out and vote, the election has taken on a new importance to them.

There is no denying the Republicans have the passion now, the enthusiasm. The Democrats do not. Independents are breaking for Romney. And there’s the thing about the yard signs. In Florida a few weeks ago I saw Romney signs, not Obama ones. From Ohio I hear the same. From tony Northwest Washington, D.C., I hear the same.

Is it possible this whole thing is playing out before our eyes and we’re not really noticing because we’re too busy looking at data on paper instead of what’s in front of us? Maybe that’s the real distortion of the polls this year: They left us discounting the world around us.

And there is Obama, out there seeming tired and wan, showing up through sheer self discipline. A few weeks ago I saw the president and the governor at the Al Smith dinner, and both were beautiful specimens in their white ties and tails, and both worked the dais. But sitting there listening to the jokes and speeches, the archbishop of New York sitting between them, Obama looked like a young challenger—flinty, not so comfortable. He was distracted, and his smiles seemed forced. He looked like a man who’d just seen some bad internal polling. Romney? Expansive, hilarious, self-spoofing, with a few jokes of finely calibrated meanness that were just perfect for the crowd. He looked like a president. He looked like someone who’d just seen good internals.

Of all people, Obama would know if he is in trouble. When it comes to national presidential races, he is a finely tuned political instrument: He read the field perfectly in 2008. He would know if he’s losing now, and it would explain his joylessness on the stump. He is out there doing what he has to to fight the fight. But he’s still trying to fire up the base when he ought to be wooing the center and speaking their calm centrist talk. His crowds haven’t been big. His people have struggled to fill various venues. This must hurt the president after the trememdous, stupendous crowds of ’08. “Voting’s the best revenge”—revenge against who, and for what? This is not a man who feels himself on the verge of a grand victory. His campaign doesn’t seem president-sized. It is small and sad and lost, driven by formidable will and zero joy.

I suspect both Romney and Obama have a sense of what’s coming, and it’s part of why Romney looks so peaceful and Obama so roiled.

Romney ends most rallies with his story of the Colorado scout troop that in 1986 had an American flag put in the space shuttle Challenger, saw the Challenger blow up as they watched on TV, and then found, through the persistence of their scoutmaster, that the flag had survived the explosion. It was returned to them by NASA officials. When Romney, afterward, was shown the flag, he touched it, and an electric jolt went up his arm. It’s a nice story. He doesn’t make its meaning fully clear. But maybe he means it as a metaphor for America: It can go through a terrible time, a catastrophe, as it has economically the past five years, and still emerge whole, intact, enduring.

Maybe that’s what the coming Romney moment is about: independents, conservatives, Republicans, even some Democrats, thinking: We can turn it around, we can work together, we can right this thing, and he can help.
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I set up for a couple Bernie speeches in Iowa, helped attendees find their caucus sites. I stood behind Bernie for a speech. Our speeches were YUGE! Our crowds blew Hillary's out of the water! Thousands packed in, enthusiastically cheering. Meanwhile, Hillary was giving intimate talks in coffee shops.

But we lost.
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Max... yall lost because of a rigged system.
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It wasn't rigged. I physically went to a caucus and talked to others who went to caucuses. There was no electronic balloting, not even paper balloting. People stand in a room and are counted. We lost.

Now, I have a few bones to pick about what happened. For instance, the judges were Hillary supporters and took away a Bernie captain's stickers and signs, but allowed Hillary's supporters to bring their in. They ran out of same day reg ballots too quickly IMO. In the end though, we were outnumbered, just slightly.
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(08-05-2016 10:31 AM)Max Power Wrote:  I set up for a couple Bernie speeches in Iowa, helped attendees find their caucus sites. I stood behind Bernie for a speech. Our speeches were YUGE! Our crowds blew Hillary's out of the water! Thousands packed in, enthusiastically cheering. Meanwhile, Hillary was giving intimate talks in coffee shops.

But we lost.

And you are so naive, you don't even realize when you've been fu**ed and gladly support the candidate that did the fu**en.
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How did we get ******?
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