Obama and BLM sit on the sidelines as the slaughter in Chicago goes on. Black lives don't matter to those people. Gun control has proven not to work against this slaughter, but helps feed it.

Quote:July 2016 was the “deadliest July in 10 years” for heavily gun-controlled Chicago: Sixty-five individuals were shot and killed.
Moreover, according to the Chicago Tribune, such death figures do not set a new record — they simply tie a record set in 2006, when 65 individuals were killed in the month of July. This brings Chicago’s homicide total to “nearly 400” for the first seven months of 2016 alone. The number of homicides for the whole year of 2015 was 490.

Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson tried to abate the feeding frenzy on the July death numbers by pointing out that they are at least better than the numbers for June, “when 72 homicides were reported.”

Breitbart News previously reported that May 2016 was also a recording-setting month. Almost 400 people were shot and 66 people were killed in that one month. The Chicago Tribune reported May 2016 as the deadliest May since 1995, when 75 people were gunned down.

On August 2, the Chicago Tribune reported a total of 2,395 shooting victims in Chicago for the seven months of 2016. There were 2,988 shooting victims for all of 2015. These shootings come in spite of the city’s “assault weapons” ban, “violence tax,” strict rules on acquiring handguns, and micro-management of the number of gun stores in the city, as well as of the locations of those stores.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...n-control/

Remember all of the hooplah the libturds talked about when the RNC was open carry? How many issues were there? Zero.

Remember what has happened to Chicago when the law abiding citizens have had their guns taken away?

So the gun control debate is simply this; would you rather walk through the RNC, or Chicago.

(08-03-2016 10:01 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Remember all of the hooplah the libturds talked about when the RNC was open carry? How many issues were there? Zero.

Remember what has happened to Chicago when the law abiding citizens have had their guns taken away?

So the gun control debate is simply this; would you rather walk through the RNC, or Chicago.

Great point...

All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.

Also, those guns aren't purchased in Chicago, they come in from Indiana or from the back of a car. It is legal to own a gun in Chicago, you just can't buy it in Chicago. I lived in Chicago for 6 years and had my gun with me or in my place all the time. Then again I never once saw someone shoot a gun or get shot by a gun in Chicago. What you have in Chicago is an education and segregation problem. The south side appears to be "lost" and no one is doing anything about it politically. How would legalizing the purchase of firearms in Chicago end the killing? I'd be very interested to know.

(08-03-2016 10:31 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.
Also, those guns aren't purchased in Chicago, they come in from Indiana or from the back of a car. It is legal to own a gun in Chicago, you just can't buy it in Chicago. I lived in Chicago for 6 years and had my gun with me or in my place all the time. Then again I never once saw someone shoot a gun or get shot by a gun in Chicago. What you have in Chicago is an education and segregation problem. The south side appears to be "lost" and no one is doing anything about it politically. How would legalizing the purchase of firearms in Chicago end the killing? I'd be very interested to know.

That is not the point. The point is that making the purchase of firearms illegal has not stopped the killing. You can offer whatever excuse you want, Indiana or whatever, but the bottom line is that outlawing the purchase and sale of firearms has not stopped the killing.

(08-03-2016 10:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:31 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.
Also, those guns aren't purchased in Chicago, they come in from Indiana or from the back of a car. It is legal to own a gun in Chicago, you just can't buy it in Chicago. I lived in Chicago for 6 years and had my gun with me or in my place all the time. Then again I never once saw someone shoot a gun or get shot by a gun in Chicago. What you have in Chicago is an education and segregation problem. The south side appears to be "lost" and no one is doing anything about it politically. How would legalizing the purchase of firearms in Chicago end the killing? I'd be very interested to know.

That is not the point. The point is that making the purchase of firearms illegal has not stopped the killing. You can offer whatever excuse you want, Indiana or whatever, but the bottom line is that outlawing the purchase and sale of firearms has not stopped the killing.

It has on the north side and downtown, and even on the west side where it used to be very bad. And you didn't tell me how legalizing the purchase of guns in Chicago would change anything.

(08-03-2016 10:31 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.

Also, those guns aren't purchased in Chicago, they come in from Indiana or from the back of a car. It is legal to own a gun in Chicago, you just can't buy it in Chicago. I lived in Chicago for 6 years and had my gun with me or in my place all the time. Then again I never once saw someone shoot a gun or get shot by a gun in Chicago. What you have in Chicago is an education and segregation problem. The south side appears to be "lost" and no one is doing anything about it politically. How would legalizing the purchase of firearms in Chicago end the killing? I'd be very interested to know.

Liberal nonsense. Spin all you want, gun control in Chicago has done zilch to stop the killing fields in Chicago. Gun control has prevented innocent victims from protecting themselves. Blacks Lives Matter? In Chicago? No they don't.

(08-03-2016 10:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:31 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.
Also, those guns aren't purchased in Chicago, they come in from Indiana or from the back of a car. It is legal to own a gun in Chicago, you just can't buy it in Chicago. I lived in Chicago for 6 years and had my gun with me or in my place all the time. Then again I never once saw someone shoot a gun or get shot by a gun in Chicago. What you have in Chicago is an education and segregation problem. The south side appears to be "lost" and no one is doing anything about it politically. How would legalizing the purchase of firearms in Chicago end the killing? I'd be very interested to know.

That is not the point. The point is that making the purchase of firearms illegal has not stopped the killing. You can offer whatever excuse you want, Indiana or whatever, but the bottom line is that outlawing the purchase and sale of firearms has not stopped the killing.

There is no rational way to deal with irrational people. If they are going to believe that inanimate guns from Indiana are the problem, nothing you say will stop them.

(08-03-2016 10:36 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:31 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.
Also, those guns aren't purchased in Chicago, they come in from Indiana or from the back of a car. It is legal to own a gun in Chicago, you just can't buy it in Chicago. I lived in Chicago for 6 years and had my gun with me or in my place all the time. Then again I never once saw someone shoot a gun or get shot by a gun in Chicago. What you have in Chicago is an education and segregation problem. The south side appears to be "lost" and no one is doing anything about it politically. How would legalizing the purchase of firearms in Chicago end the killing? I'd be very interested to know.

That is not the point. The point is that making the purchase of firearms illegal has not stopped the killing. You can offer whatever excuse you want, Indiana or whatever, but the bottom line is that outlawing the purchase and sale of firearms has not stopped the killing.

It has on the north side and downtown, and even on the west side where it used to be very bad. And you didn't tell me how legalizing the purchase of guns in Chicago would change anything.

The economic prosperity of the downtown, north, and gentrifying parts of the west side is much different that the south side. You highlighted why the south side is different. Those are some of the reasons that have created the terrible crime problem in that area. The guns there are already, largely, illegal.

And just think, Chicago could have been holding the Olympics right now.

So cringe worthy seeing Chicago residents defend the abject failure of their politics, and then try to pawn off their problems on another state.

Didn't Steven Crowder debunk the myth about Indiana? He actually went to the very gun show that Obama vilified in one of his speeches, and no one would even entertain the idea of selling him a gun.

(08-03-2016 10:36 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:31 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.
Also, those guns aren't purchased in Chicago, they come in from Indiana or from the back of a car. It is legal to own a gun in Chicago, you just can't buy it in Chicago. I lived in Chicago for 6 years and had my gun with me or in my place all the time. Then again I never once saw someone shoot a gun or get shot by a gun in Chicago. What you have in Chicago is an education and segregation problem. The south side appears to be "lost" and no one is doing anything about it politically. How would legalizing the purchase of firearms in Chicago end the killing? I'd be very interested to know.

That is not the point. The point is that making the purchase of firearms illegal has not stopped the killing. You can offer whatever excuse you want, Indiana or whatever, but the bottom line is that outlawing the purchase and sale of firearms has not stopped the killing.

It has on the north side and downtown, and even on the west side where it used to be very bad. And you didn't tell me how legalizing the purchase of guns in Chicago would change anything.

How much did property taxes go up in those areas? All they did was move the problem. Bad guys dgaf about laws.

(08-03-2016 10:01 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Remember all of the hooplah the libturds talked about when the RNC was open carry? How many issues were there? Zero.

Remember what has happened to Chicago when the law abiding citizens have had their guns taken away?

So the gun control debate is simply this; would you rather walk through the RNC, or Chicago.

The RNC was not open carry.

(08-03-2016 11:04 AM)Kronke Wrote:  So cringe worthy seeing Chicago residents defend the abject failure of their politics, and then try to pawn off their problems on another state.

Didn't Steven Crowder debunk the myth about Indiana? He actually went to the very gun show that Obama vilified in one of his speeches, and no one would even entertain the idea of selling him a gun.

It actually relieves me that they are happy there. The less carpet bagging liberals in the south the better.

(08-03-2016 11:07 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:01 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Remember all of the hooplah the libturds talked about when the RNC was open carry? How many issues were there? Zero.

Remember what has happened to Chicago when the law abiding citizens have had their guns taken away?

So the gun control debate is simply this; would you rather walk through the RNC, or Chicago.

The RNC was not open carry.

Cleveland was.

(08-03-2016 10:31 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.

Why arent the gangsters with guns in jail? Did Obama let them out? How about spending a fraction of the time you all spend on tryig to ensure citizens cant purchase guns on simply removing the crime element from the street.

Your talking points has been invalidated. Gun control doesnt work. Its settled science.

(08-03-2016 10:31 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.

Because those gangsters have zero respect for life and their chosen profession leaves them without any legal recourse.

Quote:What you have in Chicago is an education and segregation problem. The south side appears to be "lost" and no one is doing anything about it politically. How would legalizing the purchase of firearms in Chicago end the killing? I'd be very interested to know.

It's not a lack of education as CPS has plenty of schools and a district wide curricula. Many residents simply see no utility in formal education. While legalizing firearms wouldn't make a difference, the point of the OP is that strict gun laws only work when a majority of citizens choses to abide by them.

As for how to change the situation, that is up to the residents. They can either start snitchin' and cooperate with the police to arrest and sentence violent offenders or the ones that ain't about that thug life can chose to move somewhere safer.

(08-03-2016 11:10 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 11:07 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:01 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Remember all of the hooplah the libturds talked about when the RNC was open carry? How many issues were there? Zero.

Remember what has happened to Chicago when the law abiding citizens have had their guns taken away?

So the gun control debate is simply this; would you rather walk through the RNC, or Chicago.

The RNC was not open carry.

Cleveland was.

Yep, State of Ohio is. RNC was held at a privately owned venue so it was not due to the preference of the owner which is their right.

And the answer is yes, all things being equal, for purposes of safety I'd rather walk through downtown Cleveland than Chicago any day of the week. Especially since my CCW is valid on the streets of Cleveland, Ohio and in 40 states....The Republic of Chicagostan is not one of them.

(08-03-2016 11:46 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(08-03-2016 10:31 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  All the gangsters on the south side have guns, yet death happens every day down there. I thought guns lead to less death, I guess I was wrong.

Because those gangsters have zero respect for life and their chosen profession leaves them without any legal recourse.

Quote:What you have in Chicago is an education and segregation problem. The south side appears to be "lost" and no one is doing anything about it politically. How would legalizing the purchase of firearms in Chicago end the killing? I'd be very interested to know.

It's not a lack of education as CPS has plenty of schools and a district wide curricula. Many residents simply see no utility in formal education. While legalizing firearms wouldn't make a difference, the point of the OP is that strict gun laws only work when a majority of citizens choses to abide by them.

As for how to change the situation, that is up to the residents. They can either start snitchin' and cooperate with the police to arrest and sentence violent offenders or the ones that ain't about that thug life can chose to move somewhere safer.

I agree with most of your post except for the part about moving away. It's not that easy. I'm sure they would if they could.

(08-03-2016 11:52 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I agree with most of your post except for the part about moving away. It's not that easy. I'm sure they would if they could.

My Mom got out of Robert Taylor Homes way back in 1973. Living in the projects and Section 8 housing of Springfield and Quad Cities are statistically safer hanging out on the South Side.