If Houston DOES NOT get invited to the Big 12 I have two observations:
1. It will be met with total shock, followed by rage. All my Coog friends expect UH to get in very soon. It's a done deal. Imminent. If it doesn't happen they will go bat **** crazy & be talking about voting out all these pro-Houston "Big 12 or else" politicians.
2. We will see how much power the Houston Coog fans really have as we watch to see if those politicians get reelected after talking big to "cover their butts." Yeah there's other issues, but to Coog football fans this trumps all.
Cheers!

What's funny is that the reaction once the University of Texas President and everyone else started showing their support.

For some reason, there's a segment that takes issue with Houston going back to the level they were at for years. IF Houston gets the invited, it's just righting a wrong. UH shouldn't have been left out of the Big 12 in the first place.

The same can be said for fans of Cincinnati, UConn, Memphis, UCF and USF.

If your school doesn't get an invite, there will be a lot of upset and disappointed fan bases.

Apparently for any public higher institution to offer a satellite campus in the city of Houston, it must be approved by the University of Houston. That is one of the main reasons why both TTech officials as well as Univ of Texas R in favor of allowing Houston in the Big 12, so Houston will agree to allow branch/satellite TTEch/Univ of Texas campus's in the city of Houston.

Personally, I wish the Big 12 would have the "Kahunas" 2 dump Baylor, add Houston then go for 2 more schools to get to 12. But it, Won't happen!

(07-30-2016 01:55 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  The same can be said for fans of Cincinnati, UConn, Memphis, UCF and USF.

If your school doesn't get an invite, there will be a lot of upset and disappointed fan bases.

No, it's not the same with USF/UCF/UCONN fans because they've been hoping for the best, but not expecting to get invited. BYU and Memphis fans are guarded but optimistic. You are right about Cincy fans, they expect to be invited by the Big 12 in short order.
Cheers!

Maybe UConn will get asked to join ACC at the last minute, given the planned ACC TV channel and the many advantages of having UConn as part of the network.

(07-30-2016 02:14 PM)connecticutguy Wrote:  Maybe UConn will get asked to join ACC at the last minute, given the planned ACC TV channel and the many advantages of having UConn as part of the network.

I've read about UCONN fans saying if the AAC loses 3, and the ACC doesn't invite them that they'll go Indy and try to rejoin the BE because they'll make more $.
Cheers!

(07-30-2016 01:49 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  If Houston DOES NOT get invited to the Big 12 I have two observations:
1. It will be met with total shock, followed by rage. All my Coog friends expect UH to get in very soon. It's a done deal. Imminent. If it doesn't happen they will go bat **** crazy & be talking about voting out all these pro-Houston "Big 12 or else" politicians.
2. We will see how much power the Houston Coog fans really have as we watch to see if those politicians get reelected after talking big to "cover their butts." Yeah there's other issues, but to Coog football fans this trumps all.
Cheers!

Why would Houston fans be mad at the politicians that supported their efforts to get invited to the B12?

(07-30-2016 02:18 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 01:49 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  If Houston DOES NOT get invited to the Big 12 I have two observations:
1. It will be met with total shock, followed by rage. All my Coog friends expect UH to get in very soon. It's a done deal. Imminent. If it doesn't happen they will go bat **** crazy & be talking about voting out all these pro-Houston "Big 12 or else" politicians.
2. We will see how much power the Houston Coog fans really have as we watch to see if those politicians get reelected after talking big to "cover their butts." Yeah there's other issues, but to Coog football fans this trumps all.
Cheers!

Why would Houston fans be mad at the politicians that supported their efforts to get invited to the B12?

Houston fans expect to get invited.
Texas politicians have declared: "No Houston, No Big 12 expansion"
Big 12 expansion happens and Houston DOES NOT get invited.
Houston fans go ape sh!t
Houston fans go after the Texas politicians who didn't back up their UH to B12 talk.
Did you even read my post Kenny D?
Cheers!

(07-30-2016 02:27 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:18 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 01:49 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  If Houston DOES NOT get invited to the Big 12 I have two observations:
1. It will be met with total shock, followed by rage. All my Coog friends expect UH to get in very soon. It's a done deal. Imminent. If it doesn't happen they will go bat **** crazy & be talking about voting out all these pro-Houston "Big 12 or else" politicians.
2. We will see how much power the Houston Coog fans really have as we watch to see if those politicians get reelected after talking big to "cover their butts." Yeah there's other issues, but to Coog football fans this trumps all.
Cheers!

Why would Houston fans be mad at the politicians that supported their efforts to get invited to the B12?

Houston fans expect to get invited.
Texas politicians have declared: "No Houston, No Big 12 expansion"
Big 12 expansion happens and Houston DOES NOT get invited.
Houston fans go ape sh!t
Houston fans go after the Texas politicians who didn't back up their UH to B12 talk.
Did you even read my post Kenny D?
Cheers!

Yes, I read it. Every word. That's why I asked the question. Why would they be mad at the people who tried to help them? You do understand that politicians don't get a vote in this process. Why not be mad at the people who kept you out instead?

(07-30-2016 02:35 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:27 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:18 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 01:49 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  If Houston DOES NOT get invited to the Big 12 I have two observations:
1. It will be met with total shock, followed by rage. All my Coog friends expect UH to get in very soon. It's a done deal. Imminent. If it doesn't happen they will go bat **** crazy & be talking about voting out all these pro-Houston "Big 12 or else" politicians.
2. We will see how much power the Houston Coog fans really have as we watch to see if those politicians get reelected after talking big to "cover their butts." Yeah there's other issues, but to Coog football fans this trumps all.
Cheers!

Why would Houston fans be mad at the politicians that supported their efforts to get invited to the B12?

Houston fans expect to get invited.
Texas politicians have declared: "No Houston, No Big 12 expansion"
Big 12 expansion happens and Houston DOES NOT get invited.
Houston fans go ape sh!t
Houston fans go after the Texas politicians who didn't back up their UH to B12 talk.
Did you even read my post Kenny D?
Cheers!

Yes, I read it. Every word. That's why I asked the question. Why would they be mad at the people who tried to help them? You do understand that politicians don't get a vote in this process. Why not be mad at the people who kept you out instead?

Oh they'll be mad at the Big 12 too of course! No question. Thought that went without saying. I don't think you understand Ken, Coog fans are convinced that Houston to the Big 12 is 100% guaranteed. There isn't a wait and see attitude or a hope and wish thing: Coog fans think this is a done deal. A big reason for that confident attitude is what Texas politicians are saying to them about this.
Cheers!

(07-30-2016 02:41 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:35 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:27 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:18 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 01:49 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  If Houston DOES NOT get invited to the Big 12 I have two observations:
1. It will be met with total shock, followed by rage. All my Coog friends expect UH to get in very soon. It's a done deal. Imminent. If it doesn't happen they will go bat **** crazy & be talking about voting out all these pro-Houston "Big 12 or else" politicians.
2. We will see how much power the Houston Coog fans really have as we watch to see if those politicians get reelected after talking big to "cover their butts." Yeah there's other issues, but to Coog football fans this trumps all.
Cheers!

Why would Houston fans be mad at the politicians that supported their efforts to get invited to the B12?

Houston fans expect to get invited.
Texas politicians have declared: "No Houston, No Big 12 expansion"
Big 12 expansion happens and Houston DOES NOT get invited.
Houston fans go ape sh!t
Houston fans go after the Texas politicians who didn't back up their UH to B12 talk.
Did you even read my post Kenny D?
Cheers!

Yes, I read it. Every word. That's why I asked the question. Why would they be mad at the people who tried to help them? You do understand that politicians don't get a vote in this process. Why not be mad at the people who kept you out instead?

Oh they'll be mad at the Big 12 too of course! No question. Thought that went without saying. I don't think you understand Ken, Coog fans are convinced that Houston to the Big 12 is 100% guaranteed. There isn't a wait and see attitude or a hope and wish thing: Coog fans think this is a done deal. A big reason for that confident attitude is what Texas politicians are saying to them about this.
Cheers!

So what you are saying is that Houston fans are irrational. I suppose that could be true. There's a lot of that going around these days.

BTW, what would Houston fans expect Texas politicians to be saying and doing, if not making threats? It would seem to be out of character for them to be passive. Do folks in Houston really believe everything politicians say? Or do they just believe what they want to believe?

As a Louisville fan we have been on both sides of expansion annoucements; from the lowest lows to the highest highs. Every time this happens I am happy for those selected and sad for those not chosen or left behind.

The truth is nothing is over until the ink is dry on the paper. Advice from someone with a 1-1 record: don't get to high and don't get to low. I know it's easier said then done but that's what you have to do.
CJ

(07-30-2016 02:56 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:41 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:35 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:27 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 02:18 PM)ken d Wrote:  Why would Houston fans be mad at the politicians that supported their efforts to get invited to the B12?

Houston fans expect to get invited.
Texas politicians have declared: "No Houston, No Big 12 expansion"
Big 12 expansion happens and Houston DOES NOT get invited.
Houston fans go ape sh!t
Houston fans go after the Texas politicians who didn't back up their UH to B12 talk.
Did you even read my post Kenny D?
Cheers!

Yes, I read it. Every word. That's why I asked the question. Why would they be mad at the people who tried to help them? You do understand that politicians don't get a vote in this process. Why not be mad at the people who kept you out instead?

Oh they'll be mad at the Big 12 too of course! No question. Thought that went without saying. I don't think you understand Ken, Coog fans are convinced that Houston to the Big 12 is 100% guaranteed. There isn't a wait and see attitude or a hope and wish thing: Coog fans think this is a done deal. A big reason for that confident attitude is what Texas politicians are saying to them about this.
Cheers!

So what you are saying is that Houston fans are irrational. I suppose that could be true. There's a lot of that going around these days.

BTW, what would Houston fans expect Texas politicians to be saying and doing, if not making threats? It would seem to be out of character for them to be passive. Do folks in Houston really believe everything politicians say? Or do they just believe what they want to believe?

Seriously? Are you asking me if human beings believe what they want to believe? Hahaha....Yes, people believe what they choose to believe. In Houston too.
Cheers!

So what?

UT and TT and all the TX politicians have covered their asses by publically claiming to support UH.

But that support cannot force the 6 other votes UH needs when the others simply don't want SWC 2.0

The state of TX does not own or run the B12 conference.

(07-30-2016 03:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  So what?

UT and TT and all the TX politicians have covered their asses by publically claiming to support UH.

But that support cannot force the 6 other votes UH needs when the others simply don't want SWC 2.0

The state of TX does not own or run the B12 conference.

I think worrying about SWC 2.0 ended when TCU was invited. In this case Houston makes sense because it sits on a conference tectonic fault line, and is one of the few decent options for PAC expansion. A&M abandoned their outpost, pure and simple.

(07-30-2016 01:54 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What's funny is that the reaction once the University of Texas President and everyone else started showing their support.

For some reason, there's a segment that takes issue with Houston going back to the level they were at for years. IF Houston gets the invited, it's just righting a wrong. UH shouldn't have been left out of the Big 12 in the first place.

UH was in the Big 12 for 20 seasons

in the last 14 of those seasons (70% of the time) UH had 9 losing seasons, 4 winning seasons and one tie season

in the last 5 seasons (25% of the time) UH won a combined 12 games in those 5 seasons

they were playing in the Astrodome because they refused to do anything with their on campus stajium and they went from Phi Slamma Jamma to Phi Don't Care

UH had their chance and they took that chance to get in and then put it on coast and watch everyone else pull away and leave them behind

you are now "owed" anything by a conference or conference members that are looking out for THEIR best interest first as they should while you sit around and watch your program languish

(07-30-2016 02:08 PM)HHOOTter Wrote:  Apparently for any public higher institution to offer a satellite campus in the city of Houston, it must be approved by the University of Houston. That is one of the main reasons why both TTech officials as well as Univ of Texas R in favor of allowing Houston in the Big 12, so Houston will agree to allow branch/satellite TTEch/Univ of Texas campus's in the city of Houston.

Personally, I wish the Big 12 would have the "Kahunas" 2 dump Baylor, add Houston then go for 2 more schools to get to 12. But it, Won't happen!

this is really not true at all the vast majority of politicians that are concerned about the UT-Houston deal are not concerned at all about what UH thinks they are concerned about their belief that the money the UT System is spending on the project could instead be spent on the UT System university in their area of the state

the couple of politicians that are from Houston that are pretending to care are just worthless losers that jump on anything they feel they can pander towards to get a few votes in the future

if and or when it was shown that the UT-Houston project would be a major benefit to their area and or those they pander to for votes they would come out in support of that project as fast as possible even if the UH administration was still 100% against it

(07-30-2016 03:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  So what?

UT and TT and all the TX politicians have covered their asses by publically claiming to support UH.

But that support cannot force the 6 other votes UH needs when the others simply don't want SWC 2.0

The state of TX does not own or run the B12 conference.

Assuming that the Texas schools vote together, they do in fact control who gets in. They could just reject any combination of schools that doesn't include UH.

It's likely that none of the candidates would get 8/10, outside of maybe BYU. Whoever gets in will be a result of a compromise. Therefore, the Texas schools say give us Houston, and they'll give the Iowa State's and West Virginia's someone they want.

Leave the TCU/Aggie fan boy spin out of it, and take the facts at face value.

(07-30-2016 01:49 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  If Houston DOES NOT get invited to the Big 12 I have two observations:
1. It will be met with total shock, followed by rage. All my Coog friends expect UH to get in very soon. It's a done deal. Imminent. If it doesn't happen they will go bat **** crazy & be talking about voting out all these pro-Houston "Big 12 or else" politicians.
2. We will see how much power the Houston Coog fans really have as we watch to see if those politicians get reelected after talking big to "cover their butts." Yeah there's other issues, but to Coog football fans this trumps all.
Cheers!

I'll bite. I'm all ready batty waiting on a decision. So if goes against us, it is what it is. At least we tried.

(07-30-2016 03:26 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 03:13 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  So what?

UT and TT and all the TX politicians have covered their asses by publically claiming to support UH.

But that support cannot force the 6 other votes UH needs when the others simply don't want SWC 2.0

The state of TX does not own or run the B12 conference.

Assuming that the Texas schools vote together, they do in fact control who gets in. They could just reject any combination of schools that doesn't include UH.

It's likely that none of the candidates would get 8/10, outside of maybe BYU. Whoever gets in will be a result of a compromise. Therefore, the Texas schools say give us Houston, and they'll give the Iowa State's and West Virginia's someone they want.

Leave the TCU/Aggie fan boy spin out of it, and take the facts at face value.

Keep in mind that the premise of the OP was that some schools did, in fact, get 8/10 votes and that Houston was not one of those schools. UT and Texas Tech could knuckle under to the Lt Governor and still not win the day.

Maybe Texas doesn't compromise. Maybe they say we'd rather stay at 10 than add the schools you want. But that wasn't the premise of the OP.