(07-14-2016 05:22 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 06:36 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 03:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-12-2016 10:10 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Sounds legit.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...a8df880201

Sure does, Castile close up photo compared to the armed robber.

Another false narrative?

Hmmmm, That close up is far more revealing . You can see an identical beard and Hairstyle in play as well as facial structure. Very close resemblance, No if They can find those clothes or that #3 hat and gather the DNA, case closed on robbery suspect.

He is remarkably similar. Even the ear structure which can be a pretty clear identifier, is very similar. I still have serious questions about what happened and the events that led to his shooting, but I can't fault the officer for pulling him over for fitting the description.

(07-13-2016 12:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 11:21 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  How is this any different than saying bright red hair, lots of freckles, large scar on forehead or any other "unusual" feature that could help id?

#gingerlivesmatter

(07-14-2016 07:31 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 12:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 11:21 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  How is this any different than saying bright red hair, lots of freckles, large scar on forehead or any other "unusual" feature that could help id?

#gingerlivesmatter

#fknixon

#fkdupont

#fkprohibition

#fkme

....naw, I'm good.....whitey priv.....

(07-13-2016 06:03 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 05:39 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  If you have a CCW and get stopped? Inform the officer your have a permit and there is a loaded firearm in the vehicle. Put your hands on the steering wheel and follow the officers instructions. If you do these two things? You will not give the officer any reason to nervous and misinterpret your intentions. Im skeptical of the reason for the initial stop...but...Castile's actions went against the training he was supposed to receive during the CCW class. It is a tragedy.

Why would the passenger reach over and place their hands on the drivers wheel? According to the driver the officer asked him for id, and shot him for 'reaching'

You mean the CRACK HEAD?

The suspect and Castile also both have green ball caps.

(07-13-2016 05:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 03:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-12-2016 10:10 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Sounds legit.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...a8df880201

Sure does, Castile close up photo compared to the armed robber.

so just to be clear, if some white dude with a big nose robs a bank...every jewish dude driving around the area is fair game? I don't think it works that way...

Does that Jew have dreads?

(07-13-2016 05:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so just to be clear, if some white dude with a big nose robs a bank...every jewish dude driving around the area is fair game? I don't think it works that way...

Are you serious with this racist ****? I guess "they all look the same" right? Damn, not every black person has a KRS One nose. Not every Jew has a big nose either.

Wouldn't this nose not be a defining feature among other black people?

(07-13-2016 03:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-12-2016 10:10 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Sounds legit.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...a8df880201

Sure does, Castile close up photo compared to the armed robber.

Looks nothing alike.

(07-14-2016 08:02 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

I'd describe that guy as having a round face. The others seem to have far thinner faces.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't look twice at him as a cop. He matches the skin color (at least generically) the age group and the general hair style... but he has no beard. I'd probably glance and move on....

BUT, my glance MIGHT lead me to notice that he turned left without signaling or was speeding or had a tail light out. People act like cops are robots who see everything... much as how expectations of mods have been described on here... They see what they look at. The black criminal with braids caused the cop to look more closely and suspiciously at this other black man with braids... and perhaps ticket him for a minor offense that a white guy with freckles right next to him did as well, because he wasn't looking for a white man with freckles.... not racism.

(07-14-2016 10:32 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 03:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-12-2016 10:10 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Sounds legit.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...a8df880201

Sure does, Castile close up photo compared to the armed robber.

Looks nothing alike.

Need a better picture, but I'm looking mostly at the ear. Same bump on antitragus, same tragus, similar inferior crus.

(07-14-2016 10:37 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 10:32 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 03:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-12-2016 10:10 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Sounds legit.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...a8df880201

Sure does, Castile close up photo compared to the armed robber.

Looks nothing alike.

Need a better picture, but I'm looking mostly at the ear. Same bump on antitragus, same tragus, similar inferior crus.

Two points

Point one: The question is not "does this picture prove he was the robber" because it most certainly does not. The question is "does this picture come close enough that a police officer might want to peek at your ID" which my family who have owkred in law enforcemnet say yes.

Point two: This is still immeaterial to the shooting itself. Was the gun on his lap? did the cop shoot too fast? these need to be answered and then action taken based on those answers.

(07-14-2016 11:02 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 10:37 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 10:32 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 03:08 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-12-2016 10:10 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Sounds legit.

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-ameri...a8df880201

Sure does, Castile close up photo compared to the armed robber.

Looks nothing alike.

Need a better picture, but I'm looking mostly at the ear. Same bump on antitragus, same tragus, similar inferior crus.

Two points

Point one: The question is not "does this picture prove he was the robber" because it most certainly does not. The question is "does this picture come close enough that a police officer might want to peek at your ID" which my family who have owkred in law enforcemnet say yes.

Point two: This is still immeaterial to the shooting itself. Was the gun on his lap? did the cop shoot too fast? these need to be answered and then action taken based on those answers.

Agreed. I mentioned earlier that I still have serious questions over the shooting, regardless of if this guys is the robber or not, but I have no problem for him stopping him for fitting the description of the robber.

That's pretty detailed. Do cops do that? I suspect they were shown a picture and given a rather vague description... braids, high forehead, slight beard, relatively prominent cheek bones... I'm not an expert in those words, but I don't think they'd get into the 'antitragus bump' to pull someone over in a car.

(07-14-2016 11:23 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  That's pretty detailed. Do cops do that? I suspect they were shown a picture and given a rather vague description... braids, high forehead, slight beard, relatively prominent cheek bones... I'm not an expert in those words, but I don't think they'd get into the 'antitragus bump' to pull someone over in a car.

No way they could go that far. All those are minutes details of the ear that aren't that easy to discern in clear photographs, let alone a grainy surveillance photo. The nose is certainly more noticeable. I was just looking a little more closely at the photos and can see a few similarities other than a wide set nose and dreads. No chance the cop noticed the kind of details I was talking about before the stop or even during it.

From the releases I have seen, there were two suspects. The cop said one of the people looked like one of the suspects, the one with the wide set nose.

I dont think he was saying he was pulling him over because of the wide set nose. He said he was pulling them over becaues he looked like the suspect that had the wide set nose.

(07-14-2016 11:02 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Two points

Point one: The question is not "does this picture prove he was the robber" because it most certainly does not. The question is "does this picture come close enough that a police officer might want to peek at your ID" which my family who have owkred in law enforcemnet say yes.

Point two: This is still immeaterial to the shooting itself. Was the gun on his lap? did the cop shoot too fast? these need to be answered and then action taken based on those answers.

I think the answers are yes and yes.

The stop was reasonable. Because the suspect was armed, heightened alertness on the part of the cop was warranted. The guy had no reason to know this, but that is 'how it is' and why people need to listen to the cops very carefully at least initially and not be so dismissive. This guy wasn't particularly dismissive... but lots of people defending him have acted like they would have been 'tough guys' against the cops. That's exactly how you get shot.

I think the cop was a bit too amped... hard to tell for sure... sad accident, not criminal.

I haven't heard but did the Cop that pulled Him over have a better look at Him at another location prior to the stop. Seems hard to notice someone while moving and pick out that detail. Did He follow Castile's vehicle for a while before turning on the lights.

(07-14-2016 12:09 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 11:02 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Two points

Point one: The question is not "does this picture prove he was the robber" because it most certainly does not. The question is "does this picture come close enough that a police officer might want to peek at your ID" which my family who have owkred in law enforcemnet say yes.

Point two: This is still immeaterial to the shooting itself. Was the gun on his lap? did the cop shoot too fast? these need to be answered and then action taken based on those answers.

I think the answers are yes and yes.

The stop was reasonable. Because the suspect was armed, heightened alertness on the part of the cop was warranted. The guy had no reason to know this, but that is 'how it is' and why people need to listen to the cops very carefully at least initially and not be so dismissive. This guy wasn't particularly dismissive... but lots of people defending him have acted like they would have been 'tough guys' against the cops. That's exactly how you get shot.

I think the cop was a bit too amped... hard to tell for sure... sad accident, not criminal.

I suspect this is the case but I really want to see all the evidence come out. At the very least it looks like this cops career may (and perhaps should) be over.

(07-14-2016 12:20 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I suspect this is the case but I really want to see all the evidence come out. At the very least it looks like this cops career may (and perhaps should) be over.

Of course.

We need to know if it SHOULD, and we need to know it free from 'internet experts' and 'cause-heads'

While I think they look enough alike to warrant the stop, they dont look enough alike to say it was probably the same dude.