(07-06-2016 12:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:25 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Apparently the DOJ has already opened a file on this one. Seems a bit premature if you ask me.

Melanie R. Newman ‏@MelanieDOJ · 2h2 hours ago

BREAKING: DOJ has opened a civil rights investigation into the death of Alton Sterling.

Very premature. Shouldn't the DOJ wait for the local authorities to investigate and present their findings first or is it automatically a civil rights case anytime a black person is shot by a cop or white person?

Not when their are points to be scored by suggesting all cops are racists and that black people are an underclass due entirely to racism.

He was apparently a member of the Bloods gang.

http://gotnews.com/exclusive-cops-kill-b...nsterling/

Wasnt there a commercial from a certain sheriff about this area? Is that the same place or am I thinking of some other place?

(07-06-2016 12:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  He was apparently a member of the Bloods gang.

http://gotnews.com/exclusive-cops-kill-b...nsterling/

If it's too early for the DOJ to investigate it is too early to drag the guy through the mud.

(07-06-2016 12:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Wasnt there a commercial from a certain sheriff about this area? Is that the same place or am I thinking of some other place?

Other place

That guy was out south of Lafayette.

(07-06-2016 12:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  He was apparently a member of the Bloods gang.

http://gotnews.com/exclusive-cops-kill-b...nsterling/

Did the cops know that?

Salamoni and Lake (police officers) had responded to a disturbance call in which the caller said someone had been threatening him with a gun, police told the news station.

Baton Rouge Police have released few details about the shooting, including whether Sterling was armed. But a witness told The Advocate that Sterling did have a gun, but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident.

Sterling was a registered sex offender, state records show. He was convicted in 2000 of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and was released from prison in 2004. Details of that case were not immediately available.

Sterling also had convictions for aggravated battery, criminal damage to property, unauthorized entry and domestic abuse battery, The Advocate reports. He was sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute and carrying an illegal weapon with a controlled dangerous substance.

This is the Spin Room, nobody cares.

(07-06-2016 12:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Salamoni and Lake (police officers) had responded to a disturbance call in which the caller said someone had been threatening him with a gun, police told the news station.

Baton Rouge Police have released few details about the shooting, including whether Sterling was armed. But a witness told The Advocate that Sterling did have a gun, but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident.

Sterling was a registered sex offender, state records show. He was convicted in 2000 of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and was released from prison in 2004. Details of that case were not immediately available.

Sterling also had convictions for aggravated battery, criminal damage to property, unauthorized entry and domestic abuse battery, The Advocate reports. He was sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute and carrying an illegal weapon with a controlled dangerous substance.

So he "did have a gun but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident"

(07-06-2016 12:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Salamoni and Lake (police officers) had responded to a disturbance call in which the caller said someone had been threatening him with a gun, police told the news station.

Baton Rouge Police have released few details about the shooting, including whether Sterling was armed. But a witness told The Advocate that Sterling did have a gun, but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident.

Sterling was a registered sex offender, state records show. He was convicted in 2000 of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and was released from prison in 2004. Details of that case were not immediately available.

Sterling also had convictions for aggravated battery, criminal damage to property, unauthorized entry and domestic abuse battery, The Advocate reports. He was sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute and carrying an illegal weapon with a controlled dangerous substance.

So he was a felon under disability. Did he have a gun on him or not?

(07-06-2016 12:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  He was apparently a member of the Bloods gang.

http://gotnews.com/exclusive-cops-kill-b...nsterling/

Ouch

(07-06-2016 12:41 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Salamoni and Lake (police officers) had responded to a disturbance call in which the caller said someone had been threatening him with a gun, police told the news station.

Baton Rouge Police have released few details about the shooting, including whether Sterling was armed. But a witness told The Advocate that Sterling did have a gun, but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident.

Sterling was a registered sex offender, state records show. He was convicted in 2000 of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and was released from prison in 2004. Details of that case were not immediately available.

Sterling also had convictions for aggravated battery, criminal damage to property, unauthorized entry and domestic abuse battery, The Advocate reports. He was sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute and carrying an illegal weapon with a controlled dangerous substance.

So he "did have a gun but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident"

According to one witness he wasn't. There may be a video angle that shows him reaching for it or another witness to say otherwise. This is why there shouldn't be a rush to judgement.

(07-06-2016 12:49 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Salamoni and Lake (police officers) had responded to a disturbance call in which the caller said someone had been threatening him with a gun, police told the news station.

Baton Rouge Police have released few details about the shooting, including whether Sterling was armed. But a witness told The Advocate that Sterling did have a gun, but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident.

Sterling was a registered sex offender, state records show. He was convicted in 2000 of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and was released from prison in 2004. Details of that case were not immediately available.

Sterling also had convictions for aggravated battery, criminal damage to property, unauthorized entry and domestic abuse battery, The Advocate reports. He was sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute and carrying an illegal weapon with a controlled dangerous substance.

So he was a felon under disability. Did he have a gun on him or not?

Honest question. If he did have a gun on him, does it matter legally if he was reaching for it or not?

(07-06-2016 12:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:49 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Salamoni and Lake (police officers) had responded to a disturbance call in which the caller said someone had been threatening him with a gun, police told the news station.

Baton Rouge Police have released few details about the shooting, including whether Sterling was armed. But a witness told The Advocate that Sterling did have a gun, but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident.

Sterling was a registered sex offender, state records show. He was convicted in 2000 of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and was released from prison in 2004. Details of that case were not immediately available.

Sterling also had convictions for aggravated battery, criminal damage to property, unauthorized entry and domestic abuse battery, The Advocate reports. He was sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute and carrying an illegal weapon with a controlled dangerous substance.

So he was a felon under disability. Did he have a gun on him or not?

Honest question. If he did have a gun on him, does it matter legally if he was reaching for it or not?

Yes it matters. As does his reaction to the officers. You know as well as I do that he wouldn't be shot for being in possession of a firearm illegally. Now if he was struggling with the cops and fighting them because he didn't want them to find the firearm, it is his actions that potentially lead to his death and not the possession of the firearm.

(07-06-2016 12:54 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:49 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Salamoni and Lake (police officers) had responded to a disturbance call in which the caller said someone had been threatening him with a gun, police told the news station.

Baton Rouge Police have released few details about the shooting, including whether Sterling was armed. But a witness told The Advocate that Sterling did have a gun, but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident.

Sterling was a registered sex offender, state records show. He was convicted in 2000 of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and was released from prison in 2004. Details of that case were not immediately available.

Sterling also had convictions for aggravated battery, criminal damage to property, unauthorized entry and domestic abuse battery, The Advocate reports. He was sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute and carrying an illegal weapon with a controlled dangerous substance.

So he was a felon under disability. Did he have a gun on him or not?

Honest question. If he did have a gun on him, does it matter legally if he was reaching for it or not?

Yes it matters. As does his reaction to the officers. You know as well as I do that he wouldn't be shot for being in possession of a firearm illegally. Now if he was struggling with the cops and fighting them because he didn't want them to find the firearm, it is his actions that potentially lead to his death and not the possession of the firearm.

But you cant prove that he was fighting becaues he didnt want them to find the gun. Someone already posted that he wasnt reaching in his pocket. So al you have so far is that he was resisting arrest. Can you shoot someone for resisting arrest?

It matters a lot.

(07-06-2016 12:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:54 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:49 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Salamoni and Lake (police officers) had responded to a disturbance call in which the caller said someone had been threatening him with a gun, police told the news station.

Baton Rouge Police have released few details about the shooting, including whether Sterling was armed. But a witness told The Advocate that Sterling did have a gun, but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident.

Sterling was a registered sex offender, state records show. He was convicted in 2000 of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and was released from prison in 2004. Details of that case were not immediately available.

Sterling also had convictions for aggravated battery, criminal damage to property, unauthorized entry and domestic abuse battery, The Advocate reports. He was sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute and carrying an illegal weapon with a controlled dangerous substance.

So he was a felon under disability. Did he have a gun on him or not?

Honest question. If he did have a gun on him, does it matter legally if he was reaching for it or not?

Yes it matters. As does his reaction to the officers. You know as well as I do that he wouldn't be shot for being in possession of a firearm illegally. Now if he was struggling with the cops and fighting them because he didn't want them to find the firearm, it is his actions that potentially lead to his death and not the possession of the firearm.

But you cant prove that he was fighting becaues he didnt want them to find the gun. Someone already posted that he wasnt reaching in his pocket. So al you have so far is that he was resisting arrest. Can you shoot someone for resisting arrest?

so what you are saying is that it looks like first degree murder to you?

If he made a move towards where the gun was concealed and they had a reasonable belief that he was reaching for a weapon, matter is resolved.

(07-06-2016 12:41 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 12:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Salamoni and Lake (police officers) had responded to a disturbance call in which the caller said someone had been threatening him with a gun, police told the news station.

Baton Rouge Police have released few details about the shooting, including whether Sterling was armed. But a witness told The Advocate that Sterling did have a gun, but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident.

Sterling was a registered sex offender, state records show. He was convicted in 2000 of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and was released from prison in 2004. Details of that case were not immediately available.

Sterling also had convictions for aggravated battery, criminal damage to property, unauthorized entry and domestic abuse battery, The Advocate reports. He was sentenced to five years in prison in 2009 for possession of marijuana with the intent to distribute and carrying an illegal weapon with a controlled dangerous substance.

So he "did have a gun but was not holding it or reaching for his pockets during the incident"

The initial call to police was that a man said he was threatened by another man with a gun. When police get there, Sterling resists arrests, and has a gun on him, and police know thats likely the case because he has already been reported to have threatened a man with the gun.

Had Sterling abided by the current gun laws, he would not have had a gun because he was a felon. Had he not had the gun, he would not have thresatened someone else with it. Had he not threatened someone with the gun, police would not have been called on him. Had police not been called on him, he would not have resisted arrest with a gun in his pocket.

Why criminals wont follow gun laws is beyond me, but the libturds solution is more gun control for law abiding citizens.

(07-06-2016 12:33 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  He was apparently a member of the Bloods gang.

http://gotnews.com/exclusive-cops-kill-b...nsterling/

Nothing to see here folks. He was a fine outstanding young man.

If he was armed and going for his gun then what other recourse did the cops have? The video doesn't show that part. If he didn't have a gun and it's not true that his hands weren't going to his pockets those cops have a lot of 'splaining to do.

Don't jump to conclusions before the facts are in.