(06-20-2016 02:40 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 01:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  y'all are obsessed with fast food...

Try raising kids...

On fast food? Hell no...

Meh, the Kiosks were coming at minimum wage too.

(06-20-2016 08:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Meh, the Kiosks were coming at minimum wage too.

The "Cost" of labor goes beyond wages..but..they do play a part in equation. It is all about maximizing profit margin. If the total "cost" of labor is cheaper than automation? There is no motivation to automate. It is simple economics. Rising wages also mean additional FICA costs. That combined with rising workman's comp and health insurance costs all make spending money on automation a no brainer.

Bottom line. Workers are becoming more and more expensive to have...thus automation is becoming more and more financially logical to install.

(06-20-2016 08:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 08:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Meh, the Kiosks were coming at minimum wage too.

The "Cost" of labor goes beyond wages..but..they do play a part in equation. It is all about maximizing profit margin. If the total "cost" of labor is cheaper than automation? There is no motivation to automate. It is simple economics. Rising wages also mean additional FICA costs. That combined with rising workman's comp and health insurance costs all make spending money on automation a no brainer.

Bottom line. Workers are becoming more and more expensive to have...thus automation is becoming more and more financially logical to install.

Technology is becoming cheaper and cheaper by the year. Raising the minimum wage only hastens things up a little bit. And hopefully, UNION workers (higher skilled ones) will be making the kiosks.

If raising the minimum wage was awful for workers, then why would the unions be in FAVOR of them? It is because union workers tend to BENEFIT from the switch from low wage work to technological products made with higher skilled (and much more likely - union) labor.

So I guess the people these kiosks are replacing are about to find out what the real minimum wage is.

(06-20-2016 08:16 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 02:40 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 01:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  y'all are obsessed with fast food...

Try raising kids...

On fast food? Hell no...

Yes getting my kids Wendy's once a week is "raising them on fast food"

(06-20-2016 08:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 08:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 08:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Meh, the Kiosks were coming at minimum wage too.

The "Cost" of labor goes beyond wages..but..they do play a part in equation. It is all about maximizing profit margin. If the total "cost" of labor is cheaper than automation? There is no motivation to automate. It is simple economics. Rising wages also mean additional FICA costs. That combined with rising workman's comp and health insurance costs all make spending money on automation a no brainer.

Bottom line. Workers are becoming more and more expensive to have...thus automation is becoming more and more financially logical to install.

Technology is becoming cheaper and cheaper by the year. Raising the minimum wage only hastens things up a little bit. And hopefully, UNION workers (higher skilled ones) will be making the kiosks.

Yea that'll happen

(06-20-2016 09:01 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 08:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 08:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 08:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Meh, the Kiosks were coming at minimum wage too.

The "Cost" of labor goes beyond wages..but..they do play a part in equation. It is all about maximizing profit margin. If the total "cost" of labor is cheaper than automation? There is no motivation to automate. It is simple economics. Rising wages also mean additional FICA costs. That combined with rising workman's comp and health insurance costs all make spending money on automation a no brainer.

Bottom line. Workers are becoming more and more expensive to have...thus automation is becoming more and more financially logical to install.

Technology is becoming cheaper and cheaper by the year. Raising the minimum wage only hastens things up a little bit. And hopefully, UNION workers (higher skilled ones) will be making the kiosks.

Yea that'll happen

Well that's the union view.

(06-20-2016 08:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So I guess the people these kiosks are replacing are about to find out what the real minimum wage is.

Exactly. Artificially rasing wages beyond market demand directly hurts the very worker those increase are designed to help. When you create ANY bubble due to government interventionism...it is destined to burst at some point. The answer to this by the Left..is just MORE and MORE interventionism and MORE and MORE government subsidies to prop up the mistakes. The cycle is endless..until it collapses.

(06-20-2016 11:30 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 11:25 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 10:16 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 10:11 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I'm a fan of the kiosk. A nice reality check for those demanding $15/hour for fast food. Kiosks will cut down on wait times, mistakes, and lines.

Those things are not related, therefore no lesson is learned, the protests will continue, and the MW will go up under President Clinton.

But you go right on ranting online about it, lol

They are not?

Quote:While the choice will be up to the franchisees, many will likely embrace the option as a way to save on labor costs. Wendy's President and CFO, Todd Penegor, acknowledged recent pressure on the labor market in a recent earnings call.

"We've been able to create some efficiencies on labor across the restaurant ... like customer self-order kiosks, mobile order, and mobile pay," Penegor said. Kiosks could possibly "mitigate any of the inflation" seen on the wage front for Wendy's, and could for other chains as well.

As the fight for a higher minimum wage continues, some argue that higher labor costs will force fast-food companies to cut staff.

http://www.businessinsider.com/self-serv...ers-2016-5

But of course, dont believe the President and CFO of Wendy's...

so explain why they're popping up in markets with a 7.25 minimum wage? oh yeah, because like I said, and I'm ALWAYS correct, that technology only gets cheaper.

I win yet again...

The only thing you win regularly is a date with your right hand. So...umm...there's that.

(06-20-2016 11:58 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 11:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 11:45 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 11:41 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 11:39 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  so when you get proven wrong, you are just a troll... got it!

when you start saying stupid ****, I say it right back to you...you're sane and rational when I talk to you one-on-one...you take on the bully mentality, and like to e-gang up on folks when you're here.

what did I say that was stupid? You stated that the kiosks had nothing to do with MW, yet the President and CFO of Wendy's says otherwise and I just posted his quote. You are the one that got defensive and even stated that you were trolling me...

when you start saying stupid ****, I say it right back to you...you're sane and rational when I talk to you one-on-one...you take on the bully mentality, and like to e-gang up on folks when you're here.

now you are just repeating yourself...

he has a black belt in copy-and-paste. don't even think of trying him.

(06-20-2016 09:07 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 09:01 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 08:55 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 08:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 08:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Meh, the Kiosks were coming at minimum wage too.

The "Cost" of labor goes beyond wages..but..they do play a part in equation. It is all about maximizing profit margin. If the total "cost" of labor is cheaper than automation? There is no motivation to automate. It is simple economics. Rising wages also mean additional FICA costs. That combined with rising workman's comp and health insurance costs all make spending money on automation a no brainer.

Bottom line. Workers are becoming more and more expensive to have...thus automation is becoming more and more financially logical to install.

Technology is becoming cheaper and cheaper by the year. Raising the minimum wage only hastens things up a little bit. And hopefully, UNION workers (higher skilled ones) will be making the kiosks.

Yea that'll happen

Well that's the union view.

Then the union is insane. Those machines will almost certainly be made overseas.

(06-20-2016 10:05 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  lol, kiosks have nothing to do with the MW...they have been coming for over 10 years...

Ever since minimum wage increase 10 years ago?

(06-21-2016 09:03 AM)Stick4489 Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 10:05 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  lol, kiosks have nothing to do with the MW...they have been coming for over 10 years...

Ever since minimum wage increase 10 years ago?

(06-21-2016 09:03 AM)Stick4489 Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 10:05 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  lol, kiosks have nothing to do with the MW...they have been coming for over 10 years...

Ever since minimum wage increase 10 years ago?

(06-21-2016 09:03 AM)Stick4489 Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 10:05 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  lol, kiosks have nothing to do with the MW...they have been coming for over 10 years...

Ever since minimum wage increase 10 years ago?

(06-20-2016 12:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How is Wendy's doing anyways?

Far from a scientific test but Wendy's is almost non existent when it comes to my family trying to choose which fast food joint we are going to eat at.

I mean we occasionally crave their chili when it's cold out but that's not very often down here in Hell Paso.

I'm surprised you're not a frosty fan (in Hell Paso)

(06-21-2016 02:03 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Then the union is insane. Those machines will almost certainly be made overseas.

And that is precisely the problem that so many don't understand.

You just took a job that MUST be done here (counter service) and turned it into one that is more likely to be done overseas.

When drones can deliver pizza's, there won't be many low skill/entry level jobs left here.

So let it be written, so let it be done.....

Wendy's plans self-ordering kiosks at 1,000 locations

snippit:

Quote:Wendy's says it plans to install self-ordering kiosks at about 1,000 locations by the end of the year.

I welcome them myself because the brain dead idiot morons can't get a simple order right.

They fought for 15 alright