(06-14-2016 05:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: I'm curious to see who the VPs are, and if that moves any needles...
Doubt it. The next thing that could move the needle is the convention. Trump is an entertainer and I suspect the GOP convention will have record ratings. If he pulls it off Hillary will have problems. Nobody is paying attention now.
(06-14-2016 05:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: I'm curious to see who the VPs are, and if that moves any needles...
Doubt it. The next thing that could move the needle is the convention. Trump is an entertainer and I suspect the GOP convention will have record ratings. If he pulls it off Hillary will have problems. Nobody is paying attention now.
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I don't think eyes on the convention translates to votes for Trump. Everyone wants to see what he will do next so people with no intention of voting for him will be tuning in in big numbers.
(06-14-2016 05:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: I'm curious to see who the VPs are, and if that moves any needles...
Doubt it. The next thing that could move the needle is the convention. Trump is an entertainer and I suspect the GOP convention will have record ratings. If he pulls it off Hillary will have problems. Nobody is paying attention now.
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I don't think eyes on the convention translates to votes for Trump. Everyone wants to see what he will do next so people with no intention of voting for him will be tuning in in big numbers.
Oh, I agree. I said if he pulls it off. If it is a disaster, it obviously doesn't help him.
(06-14-2016 05:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: I'm curious to see who the VPs are, and if that moves any needles...
Doubt it. The next thing that could move the needle is the convention. Trump is an entertainer and I suspect the GOP convention will have record ratings. If he pulls it off Hillary will have problems. Nobody is paying attention now.
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I don't think eyes on the convention translates to votes for Trump. Everyone wants to see what he will do next so people with no intention of voting for him will be tuning in in big numbers.
This ^^^
The 2012 GOP convention had a lot of eyes and that was the problem when Clint Eastwood took the stage and made a mockery out of the whole party.
who in their right mind would be trump's VP. Is there a serious, respectable candidate willing to ruin their name by aligning with him?
(06-14-2016 08:59 PM)john01992 Wrote: who in their right mind would be trump's VP. Is there a serious, respectable candidate willing to ruin their name by aligning with him?
(06-14-2016 05:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: I'm curious to see who the VPs are, and if that moves any needles...
Doubt it. The next thing that could move the needle is the convention. Trump is an entertainer and I suspect the GOP convention will have record ratings. If he pulls it off Hillary will have problems. Nobody is paying attention now.
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I don't think eyes on the convention translates to votes for Trump. Everyone wants to see what he will do next so people with no intention of voting for him will be tuning in in big numbers.
Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes. Pig Vomit: How can that be? Researcher: Answer most commonly given? "I want to see what he'll say next." Pig Vomit: Okay, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern? Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day. Pig Vomit: But... if they hate him, why do they listen? Researcher: Most common answer? "I want to see what he'll say next."
I think we all expect the polls to be manipulated in this election. There's some organizations that have a greater incentive to cheerlead Hillary than be accurate. Bloomberg, NBC, and maybe WSJ fall into this category. PPP oversamples democrats but I think tries to be accurate. Rasmussen is the most right leaning, but its also one of the most accurate. In a straight head to head, they have Clinton in the lead by 1 to 3 points, and haven't polled since the pulse shooting. In this sample, about 20% is undecided.
There is obvious fuckery afoot regarding Gary Johnson. Why include him in the poll and not the far more consequential Green party? You know why. They're trying to force a meme where he takes Trump votes, when in fact people who don't know who he is are choosing the "other guy" on surveys. An operation to mess Johnson up and promote Jill Stein is worthwhile. Edit: Need some real dirt of Johnson.
Jill Stein is basically Bernie. I'm still hoping Don picks a fight with her and makes her famous.
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(06-14-2016 09:05 PM)spankadelphia Wrote: I think we all expect the polls to be manipulated in this election. There's some organizations that have a greater incentive to cheerlead Hillary than be accurate. Bloomberg, NBC, and maybe WSJ fall into this category. PPP oversamples democrats but I think tries to be accurate. Rasmussen is the most right leaning, but its also one of the most accurate. In a straight head to head, they have Clinton in the lead by 1 to 3 points, and haven't polled since the pulse shooting. In this sample, about 20% is undecided.
There is obvious fuckery afoot regarding Gary Johnson. Why include him in the poll and not the far more consequential Green party? You know why. They're trying to force a meme where he takes Trump votes, when in fact people who don't know who he is are choosing the "other guy" on surveys. An operation to mess Johnson up and promote Jill Stein is worthwhile. Edit: Need some real dirt of Johnson.
Jill Stein is basically Bernie. I'm still hoping Don picks a fight with her and makes her famous.
Johnson's the only third-party candidate that will be on the ballot in all 50 states. And the ticket featuring two former governors raises some (but not substantial) interest in this cycle.
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(06-14-2016 05:20 PM)Smaug Wrote: Either way, we're screwed.
Yep. I truly don't care anymore.
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If you two are somewhat representative of conservative voters then a significant number aren't heading to the polls come November.
Im heading to the polls, just not sure what Im going to do. I don't like any of them, including Gary Johnson, though he is the least bad of the 3.
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But how many with similar points of view as yours just say the hell with it and stay home? It wouldn't take that many to make a difference.
Well, Trump voters will show up as will academia and minorities. The question is, what will white upper-middle class voters do? They arent the type to sit it out.
