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(05-30-2016 07:54 PM)JimJoyce Wrote:  You guys need to stop. This is the fifth year the tournament has been in Avon at that field under this format. Why all of a sudden is it a problem? Stop blaming everything except the team that failed to get it done.

There didn't seem to be any problem with the format or the field in 2012. Didn't seem to be a problem with the format or field in 2014. When we've been good enough and mentally tough enough to win it, we have. When we haven't, we haven't.

I know it sounds like an excuse but I didn't mean it that way. We probably have won some we didn't deserve in the past also. I just don't like giving bids to to 6,7 or 8 seeds. Basketball brings in some money by playing tournaments so you just have to accept it. I'm pretty sure baseball can bring in the same amount of money with a four team tournament or even one best of three series. I just think the MAC should send one of its best teams to the tournament.

(05-30-2016 08:16 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  Our problem was 14 errors in the last 3 games and poor pitching on Sunday. Nothing else to blame IMO. Not the coaches, not the field conditions, not the format. We just screwed the pooch.

I've never heard that phrase before

I do appreciate the season, it was a great year/ We went 44-11 after the 0-3 start. It would have been easy for the team to get down after starting 0-3, but they didn't.

What's disappointing is that I would have expected we could have had an exciting NCAA tournament run. I don't expect we'd get to Omaha, but I don't think we'd get bounced after 2 games. It kind of says that the season doesn't mean anything, it's only the conference tournament that counts.

And you wonder what it would have been like if Jensen-Clagg would have played.

Eric Lauer tabbed as national player of the year.

http://kentstatesports.com/news/2016/6/2...-year.aspx

(05-31-2016 08:30 AM)Slinkin Street Flash Wrote:  I do appreciate the season, it was a great year/ We went 44-11 after the 0-3 start. It would have been easy for the team to get down after starting 0-3, but they didn't.

What's disappointing is that I would have expected we could have had an exciting NCAA tournament run. I don't expect we'd get to Omaha, but I don't think we'd get bounced after 2 games. It kind of says that the season doesn't mean anything, it's only the conference tournament that counts.

And you wonder what it would have been like if Jensen-Clagg would have played.

Bingo. It's like that in a lot of sports. Baseball, softball, women's soccer, volleyball, women's basketball, field hockey for example. I despise it especially when it brings in no extra revenue. The MAC should send their best team if the tournament actually costs them money which most probably do.

In a vast majority of cases that's the regular season champ or at least East champ vs. West champ winner in sports like baseball, softball and women's basketball where schedules are not identical. The Big 10 can afford to play these games because they know their best teams will get in anyway. We can't. Heck the MAC awards Reese and Jacoby points based on regular season standings when round robin schedules are played why not the same logic for tournament bids. I know some sports make money off their tournament (aka men's basketball) and you can't turn that down but the rest of the sports don't make a lot of sense to me.

(05-29-2016 03:34 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Flashes made four errors in Championship Game.

That was probably the difference.

Thanks, though!

Nice showing in regionals btw...

(06-07-2016 08:02 PM)KSU Agee Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 03:34 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Flashes made four errors in Championship Game.

That was probably the difference.

Thanks, though!

Nice showing in regionals btw...

LMFAO. WMU never had a freakin' prayer of winning a game.

(06-07-2016 08:02 PM)KSU Agee Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 03:34 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Flashes made four errors in Championship Game.

That was probably the difference.

Thanks, though!

Nice showing in regionals btw...

KSU's excuse?

(06-07-2016 08:14 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 08:02 PM)KSU Agee Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 03:34 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Flashes made four errors in Championship Game.

That was probably the difference.

Thanks, though!

Nice showing in regionals btw...

LMFAO. WMU never had a freakin' prayer of winning a game.

Freakin' or not had more of one than a certain no show.

Thanks though!

(06-08-2016 11:15 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 08:02 PM)KSU Agee Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 03:34 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Flashes made four errors in Championship Game.

That was probably the difference.

Thanks, though!

Nice showing in regionals btw...

KSU's excuse?

Strength of schedule. At 44-14, I am sure KSU loves missing out on regionals because of "quality" opponents such as Western Michigan University.

(06-09-2016 04:04 AM)KSU Agee Wrote:  

(06-08-2016 11:15 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(06-07-2016 08:02 PM)KSU Agee Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 03:34 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Flashes made four errors in Championship Game.

That was probably the difference.

Thanks, though!

Nice showing in regionals btw...

KSU's excuse?

Strength of schedule. At 44-14, I am sure KSU loves missing out on regionals because of "quality" opponents such as Western Michigan University.

"Feelings" are irrelevant. The fact is KSU lost when it mattered most to WMU. Quality or not.

Blame the turf, the stadium, the HC and his assistants. Speculate as to what would/should be. That is why the games are played.

But thanks though!

Your right you won it on the field and Kent has no excuses. But even you must admit that having an eight team tournament in baseball is kind of silly. Baseball more than any sport should use the regular season to determine its champion. The MAC especially since it will 99/100 times only get one bid. You benefitted from a stupid system as I am sure we have in the past. Due to the West and East
playing unbalanced schedules the MAC should have a 2 out of three series to determine its representative. It will never happen. In fact it's more likely to go to a 11 team tournament. I think the everybody wins a trophy philosophy is creeping into college sports.

(06-09-2016 10:23 AM)burden Wrote:  Your right you won it on the field and Kent has no excuses. But even you must admit that having an eight team tournament in baseball is kind of silly. Baseball more than any sport should use the regular season to determine its champion. The MAC especially since it will 99/100 times only get one bid. You benefitted from a stupid system as I am sure we have in the past. Due to the West and East
playing unbalanced schedules the MAC should have a 2 out of three series to determine its representative. It will never happen. In fact it's more likely to go to a 11 team tournament. I think the everybody wins a trophy philosophy is creeping into college sports.

Agreed. Then the garbage teams like Western Michigan would never even sniff regionals. Anyways, the trash has been taken out. Let's focus on the positive tonight...Seeing Mr. Lauer get drafted high!

(06-09-2016 10:23 AM)burden Wrote:  Your right you won it on the field and Kent has no excuses. But even you must admit that having an eight team tournament in baseball is kind of silly. Baseball more than any sport should use the regular season to determine its champion. The MAC especially since it will 99/100 times only get one bid. You benefitted from a stupid system as I am sure we have in the past. Due to the West and East
playing unbalanced schedules the MAC should have a 2 out of three series to determine its representative. It will never happen. In fact it's more likely to go to a 11 team tournament. I think the everybody wins a trophy philosophy is creeping into college sports.

I won't disagree KSU had a better team over the course of the season. I wont argue the merits of a post season conference tournament to determine who is "eligible" to move on. In principle for the sake of promoting the conference and hopefully making $ conferences put on these tournaments. I dont know if there is an NCAA requirement. I hope not. One can argue it is better suited for one sport over the other. The issue, I believe for baseball is "arms". What college team has 4 arms in a rotation that are similar and outstanding in giving a team a chance? None.

But then the CWS is pretty much the same offering. Each team has a punchers chance to win it but aspects have to align. In KSU's situation they booted the ball repeatedly, protected arms of previously used pitchers and didn't hit when required.

(06-09-2016 12:26 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 10:23 AM)burden Wrote:  Your right you won it on the field and Kent has no excuses. But even you must admit that having an eight team tournament in baseball is kind of silly. Baseball more than any sport should use the regular season to determine its champion. The MAC especially since it will 99/100 times only get one bid. You benefitted from a stupid system as I am sure we have in the past. Due to the West and East
playing unbalanced schedules the MAC should have a 2 out of three series to determine its representative. It will never happen. In fact it's more likely to go to a 11 team tournament. I think the everybody wins a trophy philosophy is creeping into college sports.

I won't disagree KSU had a better team over the course of the season. I wont argue the merits of a post season conference tournament to determine who is "eligible" to move on. In principle for the sake of promoting the conference and hopefully making $ conferences put on these tournaments. I dont know if there is an NCAA requirement. I hope not. One can argue it is better suited for one sport over the other. The issue, I believe for baseball is "arms". What college team has 4 arms in a rotation that are similar and outstanding in giving a team a chance? None.

But then the CWS is pretty much the same offering. Each team has a punchers chance to win it but aspects have to align. In KSU's situation they booted the ball repeatedly, protected arms of previously used pitchers and didn't hit when required.

If the MAC makes money on the baseball tournament you have to live with it. It's hard for me to believe they make more than a 2 out of 3 series might make. I have no data so if somebody does I'll change my opinion quickly. As far as the CWS all those tournaments are 4 team tourneys or 2 out of 3 series. You don't need to win 6 and 7 games to come out of the losers bracket. Also at the NCAA level money/ TV coverage becomes the decider. Can't fight that.

Lauer 25th to the padres.

Kept hearing about the White Sox wanting him with the 26th pick, so it's a win-win tonight for Kent-Indians fans.

2nd KSU Baseball Player drafted in 2016 MLB Draft, Andy Ravel, in the 7th round to the Toronto Blue Jays (222nd overall). Congrats Andy Ravel & Eric Lauer!!

WMU and KSU split four games this year.

We won the one that mattered most.

(06-11-2016 07:11 AM)MajorHoople Wrote:  WMU and KSU split four games this year.

We won the one that mattered most.

Your team is sh!tty. As evidenced by your 21-33 record. Anyone can win 1 game. Unless you go to Louisville to get your a$$ whipped twice.