(05-30-2016 12:31 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 08:44 AM)UH1927 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 05:10 AM)Puckhead48E Wrote:  Hello wall...I think you have some writing on you.
https://twitter.com/cftalk/status/736921579938938880

I think only our leaders and top boosters know if we've had serious discussions with other conferences (PAC, ACC, B1G, SEC). Possibly we have and we've relayed their interest to the Big12 which is why we might be getting some late love from the UT media right now.

I'd have to say the most laughable reason I've seen for keeping us out of the Big 12 is ....Recruiting..lol

The question I have is ...what happens if another power conference picks us up? We will still be able to lure Texas area recruits to UH bc we are a in a power conference...the difference is that those recruits will now be members of the PAC, ACC, etc. and NOT the Big 12. We can literally take top recruits from the BIg 12's back yard and deliver them to the PAC,etc....this is exactly what Texas A&M has done for the SEC.

But the PAC isn't taking Houston anyway so it doesn't matter. The PAC needs schools with fans who hop in their RV's and travel to their games. Houston won't provide that. Texas and OU can. Oh, that's right the PAC publicly denied OU in 2012. If they did that to OU I guess that means they'd take Houston? Long shot.
Cheers!

I thought the Pac almost landed a grand-slam with the Texahoma deal (UT, TTU, OK & OSU) back in 2010-11?? Only for UT to burn that bridge with the announcement of their LHN.

Also, you cannot predict what Houston can or cannot do. Many predicted the Peach Bowl would not sell out from Houston's side. Well it was. Only time will tell what the fanbase will do once in a P5 conference.

(05-30-2016 12:31 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 08:44 AM)UH1927 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 05:10 AM)Puckhead48E Wrote:  Hello wall...I think you have some writing on you.
https://twitter.com/cftalk/status/736921579938938880

I think only our leaders and top boosters know if we've had serious discussions with other conferences (PAC, ACC, B1G, SEC). Possibly we have and we've relayed their interest to the Big12 which is why we might be getting some late love from the UT media right now.

I'd have to say the most laughable reason I've seen for keeping us out of the Big 12 is ....Recruiting..lol

The question I have is ...what happens if another power conference picks us up? We will still be able to lure Texas area recruits to UH bc we are a in a power conference...the difference is that those recruits will now be members of the PAC, ACC, etc. and NOT the Big 12. We can literally take top recruits from the BIg 12's back yard and deliver them to the PAC,etc....this is exactly what Texas A&M has done for the SEC.

But the PAC isn't taking Houston anyway so it doesn't matter. The PAC needs schools with fans who hop in their RV's and travel to their games. Houston won't provide that. Texas and OU can. Oh, that's right the PAC publicly denied OU in 2012. If they did that to OU I guess that means they'd take Houston? Long shot.
Cheers!

Are you sure...you may want to check out how many UH people traveled last year and will travel next season. I know a huge group is making the trip up to Maryland to watch the Coogs play Navy.

I'd mention the large number of Coogs that traveled to Atlanta for the Peach Bowl (I was one of them) but that was expected.

Keep an eye out for Coogs on the road...you might be surprised.

(05-30-2016 03:28 PM)UH1927 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 12:31 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 08:44 AM)UH1927 Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 05:10 AM)Puckhead48E Wrote:  Hello wall...I think you have some writing on you.
https://twitter.com/cftalk/status/736921579938938880

I think only our leaders and top boosters know if we've had serious discussions with other conferences (PAC, ACC, B1G, SEC). Possibly we have and we've relayed their interest to the Big12 which is why we might be getting some late love from the UT media right now.

I'd have to say the most laughable reason I've seen for keeping us out of the Big 12 is ....Recruiting..lol

The question I have is ...what happens if another power conference picks us up? We will still be able to lure Texas area recruits to UH bc we are a in a power conference...the difference is that those recruits will now be members of the PAC, ACC, etc. and NOT the Big 12. We can literally take top recruits from the BIg 12's back yard and deliver them to the PAC,etc....this is exactly what Texas A&M has done for the SEC.

But the PAC isn't taking Houston anyway so it doesn't matter. The PAC needs schools with fans who hop in their RV's and travel to their games. Houston won't provide that. Texas and OU can. Oh, that's right the PAC publicly denied OU in 2012. If they did that to OU I guess that means they'd take Houston? Long shot.
Cheers!

Are you sure...you may want to check out how many UH people traveled last year and will travel next season. I know a huge group is making the trip up to Maryland to watch the Coogs play Navy.

I'd mention the large number of Coogs that traveled to Atlanta for the Peach Bowl (I was one of them) but that was expected.

Keep an eye out for Coogs on the road...you might be surprised.

Lucky person, within 40 minutest the tickets were sold out for the Peach Bowl.

UH is fine for the time being, but Houston, or any American school investing heavily in athletics will flop if they don't get at least close to positive cash flow in athletics. We are subsidizing the hell out of our football team and it's not sustainable.

(05-30-2016 05:58 PM)vcoog Wrote:  UH is fine for the time being, but Houston, or any American school investing heavily in athletics will flop if they don't get at least close to positive cash flow in athletics. We are subsidizing the hell out of our football team and it's not sustainable.

Yes, a heavily subsidized budget of low to mid 40's is very bad. The fans need to pick up the slack. Houston has a shot at the Big 12 with sell outs this year and bringing a ton of fans to the away games. I know it's hard to pack your RV and head to "conference" games in Connecticut, Philly, Greenville and Maryland, Orlando and Tampa but that's what needs to happen for the Coogs to move up. When Iowa plays Minnesota and Illinois etc they bring over 20,000 fans with them. I'm not talking about when Iow goes to the Peach Bowl. I'm talking about over 20k traveling fans for Minny-fricken-sota.
Cheers!

(05-29-2016 12:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 12:43 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  The big12 is a huge mess... Houston wanting in in a dead walking conference is not what I want for Houston.

I'm betting if the Big 12 issued an invitation to Houston, your administrators would accept just as fast as they could jump across the table, or through the phone line, to shake hands.

Tilman has his ace in the hole with Red.

(05-30-2016 05:58 PM)vcoog Wrote:  UH is fine for the time being, but Houston, or any American school investing heavily in athletics will flop if they don't get at least close to positive cash flow in athletics. We are subsidizing the hell out of our football team and it's not sustainable.

I get the general logic of being "sustainable" but I've been a Coog for the last 34 years when I enrolled in 1982, and even back then the entire athletic program was subsidized and there would be articles in the paper saying how it's not sustainable and that something has to give.

Yet, here we are in 2016 and the program is still in the red, yet it's still here.

The athletics programs aren't going away.

(05-31-2016 11:32 AM)ShockerBob Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 12:51 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 12:43 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  The big12 is a huge mess... Houston wanting in in a dead walking conference is not what I want for Houston.

I'm betting if the Big 12 issued an invitation to Houston, your administrators would accept just as fast as they could jump across the table, or through the phone line, to shake hands.

Tilman has his ace in the hole with Red.

Let's hope so, cause some UT fans feel Red doesn't have as much sway as he used to.

(05-31-2016 01:09 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 05:58 PM)vcoog Wrote:  UH is fine for the time being, but Houston, or any American school investing heavily in athletics will flop if they don't get at least close to positive cash flow in athletics. We are subsidizing the hell out of our football team and it's not sustainable.

I get the general logic of being "sustainable" but I've been a Coog for the last 34 years when I enrolled in 1982, and even back then the entire athletic program was subsidized and there would be articles in the paper saying how it's not sustainable and that something has to give.

Yet, here we are in 2016 and the program is still in the red, yet it's still here.

The athletics programs aren't going away.

Surely the program was self sustaining when it was in the equivalent of a P5 conference in the SWC. You guys were winning big, playing big name programs, had nationally recognized coaches, playing in large home venues within a conference that was guaranteed a New Year's day bowl game when there were only 4 of them.

Any other program here would drool over such a windfall as that.

I realize that when Lewis/Yeoman left, the last few years in the SWC were pretty dry for the Cougars and fans didn't have the same reasons for attending, but surely here were years of profitable athletics given the near perfect environment Cougar fans had.

(05-29-2016 01:09 PM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote:  I was talking to a friend of mine earlier today when he showed me the tweet about UH.

@ToddStone

UH fans get their wish -- Big 12 dreams dominate the Chronicle's Sunday sports section.

Interesting: If UH joined the Big 12, it would be the second-largest university in the conference in terms of enrollment (42K).

These tweets coming after Red McCombs speaks about UH should be added to the Big XII. Ol' Red being a UT big donor, did he whispered some big donations into Bevo's ear should they extend an invitation to the Cougars?? Crazy theory I know.

Fwiw if Cincy gets in we are larger: 44,000

(05-31-2016 02:33 PM)UCBEast Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 01:09 PM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote:  I was talking to a friend of mine earlier today when he showed me the tweet about UH.

@ToddStone

UH fans get their wish -- Big 12 dreams dominate the Chronicle's Sunday sports section.

Interesting: If UH joined the Big 12, it would be the second-largest university in the conference in terms of enrollment (42K).

These tweets coming after Red McCombs speaks about UH should be added to the Big XII. Ol' Red being a UT big donor, did he whispered some big donations into Bevo's ear should they extend an invitation to the Cougars?? Crazy theory I know.

Fwiw if Cincy gets in we are larger: 44,000

Cincy is a shoe in wherever they go P5 IMO - just a matter of time.

(05-29-2016 07:16 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 07:13 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  NIU and FIU

Why? Because I bet I'm the first one to ever suggest those two.

Idiot.

It's gonna be NIU and FAU...

NIU has no hopes of overcoming the realignment powerhouse of Arkansas Tech =/

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(05-31-2016 03:06 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 07:16 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 07:13 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  NIU and FIU

Why? Because I bet I'm the first one to ever suggest those two.

Idiot.

It's gonna be NIU and FAU...

NIU has no hopes of overcoming the realignment powerhouse of Arkansas Tech =/

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That darn Arkansas tech.

(05-31-2016 02:26 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 01:09 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(05-30-2016 05:58 PM)vcoog Wrote:  UH is fine for the time being, but Houston, or any American school investing heavily in athletics will flop if they don't get at least close to positive cash flow in athletics. We are subsidizing the hell out of our football team and it's not sustainable.

I get the general logic of being "sustainable" but I've been a Coog for the last 34 years when I enrolled in 1982, and even back then the entire athletic program was subsidized and there would be articles in the paper saying how it's not sustainable and that something has to give.

Yet, here we are in 2016 and the program is still in the red, yet it's still here.

The athletics programs aren't going away.

Surely the program was self sustaining when it was in the equivalent of a P5 conference in the SWC. You guys were winning big, playing big name programs, had nationally recognized coaches, playing in large home venues within a conference that was guaranteed a New Year's day bowl game when there were only 4 of them.

Any other program here would drool over such a windfall as that.

I realize that when Lewis/Yeoman left, the last few years in the SWC were pretty dry for the Cougars and fans didn't have the same reasons for attending, but surely here were years of profitable athletics given the near perfect environment Cougar fans had.

I don't think it was ever completely self-sustaining... I understand from talking with old-timers, that the early Cotton Bowl wins got the athletic department thinking they were able raise ticket prices and even sell seat licenses, and turned off the fans with sticker shock when they saw the prices.

That was the beginning of the sad attendance numbers. I have been told attendance was regularly in the 40K's before the athletic department ran off the fans.

Throughout the 80's, even during the crazy Run-n-Shoot days, we struggled to top 22K in attendance, which looked really awful in the Astrodome.

Before the SWC days, we were independent, and I have no idea how attendance was during those days.

(05-31-2016 03:49 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(05-31-2016 03:06 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 07:16 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 07:13 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  NIU and FIU

Why? Because I bet I'm the first one to ever suggest those two.

Idiot.

It's gonna be NIU and FAU...

NIU has no hopes of overcoming the realignment powerhouse of Arkansas Tech =/

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That darn Arkansas tech.

What's wrong with you people. Arkansas Tech has rejected the SEC and B10 on MULTIPLE occasions. There's no way they go to the ACC or B12.

As long as Texas is in the Big 12, Houston will never even be considered. No sense of even talking about it

(05-31-2016 11:47 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-29-2016 09:07 AM)rosewater Wrote:  Joseph Duarte (@Joseph_Duarte) tweeted at 6:50 PM on Sat, May 28, 2016:

High ranking UT official tells @kbohls on UH: 'Texas will officially be for it. Realistically I cannot see getting 7 votes in favor however'

In my opinion, with the politics and dynamics of the situation, no one gets in without the Texas vote.

I can't stop laughing

Twitter troll trying to increase traffic

Go back to your inferior conference board troll.

I wonder if this high ranking UT official has spoken to Admiral McRaven and UT BOR. UT is not building a UT campus in Houston to allow UH to compete on the same level/conference with UT

(06-01-2016 12:34 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  I wonder if this high ranking UT official has spoken to Admiral McRaven and UT BOR. UT is not building a UT campus in Houston to allow UH to compete on the same level/conference with UT

That UT campus was deemed illegal check yo facts before you troll.

(06-01-2016 02:27 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-01-2016 12:34 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  I wonder if this high ranking UT official has spoken to Admiral McRaven and UT BOR. UT is not building a UT campus in Houston to allow UH to compete on the same level/conference with UT

That UT campus was deemed illegal check yo facts before you troll.

By who? Some lawyer from UH You are uninformed.

Just like UT will never allow UH to be in a conference with them and just like UT shot down expansion. What UT says goes in the Big 12. That's just reality sorry you are too delusional or young to see that