There have been hints from officials in the past pointing to the conference meetings as when change would occur.Do they have the fortitude to make meaningful changes?Will it happen or will we continue to be less than where we should be?"Recommendations" are not enough.Policies with no penalties are useless.

We need: Scheduling mandates
Strategic conference scheduling
Possible Conf. Tourn. reform
Incentives for more emphasis on Basketball investment
Marketing initiatives local and conference wide

The conference and schools need MONEY and the best way is through NCAA tournament credits$.

you're probably expecting too much from the school presidents and ADs

(05-26-2016 10:49 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  There have been hints from officials in the past pointing to the conference meetings as when change would occur.Do they have the fortitude to make meaningful changes?Will it happen or will we continue to be less than where we should be?"Recommendations" are not enough.Policies with no penalties are useless.

We need: Scheduling mandates
Strategic conference scheduling
Possible Conf. Tourn. reform
Incentives for more emphasis on Basketball investment
Marketing initiatives local and conference wide

The conference and schools need MONEY and the best way is through NCAA tournament credits$.

The bolded are the big two for me.

I'd be interested in what strategic conference scheduling would be considered. The final two aren't conference level issues and need to be handled by the individual schools.

The final two are part of what is dragging this conference down.These low RPI schools need a kick in the butt.If they want a share of the NCAA tourney money they need to DO something-incentives or penalties may cause them to act.

(05-26-2016 11:35 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  The final two are part of what is dragging this conference down.These low RPI schools need a kick in the butt.If they want a share of the NCAA tourney money they need to DO something-incentives or penalties may cause them to act.

incentives only matter if they're missing out on much. If we are getting one NCAA credit and tell a school that doesn't care they will miss out on $50,000 because they're not spending money on basketball, they won't care. That's not an incentive.

If a school wants to improve in basketball it will not come from a directive from the conference.

But to answer your question I think basketball is not on their minds. GREAT weather, beaches are full and the ocean is crystal clear. About as clear as I recall and I've been coming to PC Beach since 1991. Destin is no different at least not when we left yesterday evening after a day at sea. I got too much sun yesterday or I would be out in the ocean..swimming or fishing. Instead I'm sitting outside (under roof-pc beach) watching and on a pc.

BTW I wonder why they didn't have their meeting in B'ham?

i will repost this from another thread. Our hc accidentally tweeted meeting notes.

(05-26-2016 11:35 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  The final two are part of what is dragging this conference down.These low RPI schools need a kick in the butt.If they want a share of the NCAA tourney money they need to DO something-incentives or penalties may cause them to act.

The incentive for schools at the bottom "dragging this conference down" should be no longer being an embarrassment and not getting their rear ends handed to them repeatedly. CUSA shouldn't need a carrot for member schools to actually care about 1 of the two major revenue sports.

Further, cutting low performers off from tournament revenues will only deepen the hole they are in.

Are there any arenas in the Panhandle capable of hosting ?

Draw the tourney out longer if no decent arena for the women (or dwindle down to 8 teams) ?

Temple got booted once from a conference for not performing. Why not do the same in CUSA?

(05-27-2016 01:46 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Temple got booted once from a conference for not performing. Why not do the same in CUSA?

Isn't that what happened with Idaho and New Mexico St as well with the SunBelt?

(05-26-2016 12:40 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  i will repost this from another thread. Our hc accidentally tweeted meeting notes.

Those are women's basketball notes.

(05-27-2016 04:25 PM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 12:40 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  i will repost this from another thread. Our hc accidentally tweeted meeting notes.

Those are women's basketball notes.

First you guys should love that. Second would we not try to push the same way of thinking on both sides??

(05-27-2016 01:46 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Temple got booted once from a conference for not performing. Why not do the same in CUSA?

That's the answer. Two birds with one stone. The expansion to 14 has been a disaster.

When I first looked at this conference I thought if UTEP could get it back together and UAB could return to form, with some of the new additions this would be a pretty good basketball league. Has not turned out that way.

To be honest, until we have some actual conference leadership ( think Slive)I just as soon CUSA stay out of Southern Miss affairs.

(05-27-2016 01:46 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Temple got booted once from a conference for not performing. Why not do the same in CUSA?

We got booted for not investing. Performance was part of it, but not the main part.

(05-27-2016 06:00 PM)GoBigGold Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 01:46 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Temple got booted once from a conference for not performing. Why not do the same in CUSA?

That's the answer. Two birds with one stone. The expansion to 14 has been a disaster.

When I first looked at this conference I thought if UTEP could get it back together and UAB could return to form, with some of the new additions this would be a pretty good basketball league. Has not turned out that way.

To be honest, until we have some actual conference leadership ( think Slive)I just as soon CUSA stay out of Southern Miss affairs.

As for UTEP you can thank our wonderful coach for mediocrity. I see no light at the end of the tunnel. Too bad Briles doesn't coach basketball.

(05-28-2016 12:23 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 01:46 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Temple got booted once from a conference for not performing. Why not do the same in CUSA?

We got booted for not investing. Performance was part of it, but not the main part.

Interesting that it was spun as a performance issue then. One would think it would be better to blame it on unrealistic conference expectations of investment in facilities (par exàmple), rather than the story we all heard. Bet there's a great story or two there.

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(05-28-2016 02:14 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(05-28-2016 12:23 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 01:46 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Temple got booted once from a conference for not performing. Why not do the same in CUSA?

We got booted for not investing. Performance was part of it, but not the main part.

Interesting that it was spun as a performance issue then. One would think it would be better to blame it on unrealistic conference expectations of investment in facilities (par exàmple), rather than the story we all heard. Bet there's a great story or two there.

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It wasn't only facilities. It was everything that encompasses funding a major D-I football program. We were pouring that money into basketball instead. We had a president who didn't really want football, and it took several more years to finally have an administration who supported football and realized its importance.

They may not be one of the better programs in the B1G, but our administration is almost entirely from Indiana, and realizes what football can do for a university.

(05-27-2016 05:14 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 04:25 PM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 12:40 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  i will repost this from another thread. Our hc accidentally tweeted meeting notes.

Those are women's basketball notes.

First you guys should love that. Second would we not try to push the same way of thinking on both sides??

A similar approach would be helpful without a doubt. But the goals need to be realistic. Some of the goals on that women's list would need to be seriously refined before they could apply to men's basketball. And some items not on the women's list are needed on the men's side.

There needs to be conference office oversight regarding scheduling. A financial incentives and penalties system should be instituted for exceeding or failing to meet whatever standards are set by the conference. Plus the conference tournament format needs to be reviewed, and changes should be made ASAP based on that review.

(05-26-2016 12:37 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  If a school wants to improve in basketball it will not come from a directive from the conference.

But to answer your question I think basketball is not on their minds. GREAT weather, beaches are full and the ocean is crystal clear. About as clear as I recall and I've been coming to PC Beach since 1991. Destin is no different at least not when we left yesterday evening after a day at sea. I got too much sun yesterday or I would be out in the ocean..swimming or fishing. Instead I'm sitting outside (under roof-pc beach) watching and on a pc.

BTW I wonder why they didn't have their meeting in B'ham?

One of the joys to living in Pcola is the abundant number of wonderful beaches near by.