She’s been tweeting about how evil Trump is for buying houses during the bust to make a profit, when she actually did it herself.Typical leftist hypocrite.

Quote:Before the crash that she blamed on speculators, Senator Elizabeth Warren made a bundle by flipping houses.

Nearly two years after Veo Vessels died, her daughter, 70-year-old Mary Frances Hickman, decided to sell the home her mother had left to her. A sprawling brick house in Oklahoma City’s historic Highland Park neighborhood, it was built in 1924, just a year after Mary’s birth.

Decades later, one of Vessels’ great-grandchildren fondly recalls the wood and tile floors, the fish pond, the butler’s quarters, and the multi-car garage where children played house.

“It was really, really nice,” says Hickman’s granddaughter, Andrea Martin. That’s part of the reason she’s so surprised her grandmother sold the home in 1993 for a mere $30,000. Despite a debilitating stroke, Martin says Hickman remained sharp, and she had always been business-savvy. As an Avon saleswoman, she had at times ranked among the top ten in the country. “So I don’t know why,” Martin says. “Maybe she just wanted out from underneath it, but to sell it for such a low number — I don’t know. Maybe she got bad advice, maybe she was just tired.”

The home’s new owner: Elizabeth Warren, today a Massachusetts senator who has built a political career on denouncing the sort of banking titans and financial sophisticates who make a buck off the little guy. Five months after purchasing Veo Vessels’ old home, Warren flipped the property, selling it for $115,000 more than she’d paid, according to Oklahoma County Property Assessor records.

Warren rose to political prominence in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis as a crusader against big banks and a dispenser of common-sense economic advice. She campaigned for the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, intended to shield people from the predations of the mortgage and credit-card industries, among others. In her 2006 book All Your Worth, co-authored with her daughter, Amelia, Warren lists as a top myth the idea that “you can make big money buying houses and flipping them quickly.” She has made a career out of telling people how to behave in financially responsible ways, and out of creating laws that will make it illegal for them to do otherwise.

Five months after purchasing Veo Vessels’ old home, Warren flipped the property, selling it for $115,000 more than she’d paid. But Warren bought and sold at least five properties for profit at a different time in her life, before the cratering economy and a political career made her a star. Her life story has been the subject of much interest, and her 2014 memoir, A Fighting Chance, chronicled her rise from humble beginnings in small-town Oklahoma and her struggle to make ends meet. It didn’t much mention, though, the early 1990s, years when her children were teenagers and she was once again happily married. These are years when she wasn’t yet the multimillionaire she is today, and, she has said, she was voting Republican.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/41...na-johnson

We should have some respect and address her by her native American name....... "Nails on a chalkboard"

This is great an all but she isn't on the ballot this year

(05-26-2016 01:43 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  This is great an all but she isn't on the ballot this year

Not yet.

But, boy she's out there auditioning. Another total hypocrite. I think it was 5 or 6 houses she and Geronimo flipped, sounds a bit like the Berns wife and the *Ahem* capitalism they indulged themselves in.

Talk about berning a bankruptcy or two. How about an entire actual College?

Quote:Sanders departed not long after the deal was inked, giving no explanation for her resignation but reportedly accepting a $200,000 severance package, according to VPR. And the small school was left to suffocate under the “crushing weight of debt,” Holm said Monday, the Free Press reports.

Problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money...

But let me guess- It hasn't been done quite right, just yet. haha

(05-26-2016 02:00 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 01:43 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  This is great an all but she isn't on the ballot this year

Not yet.

But, boy she's out there auditioning. Another total hypocrite. I think it was 5 or 6 houses she and Geronimo flipped, sounds a bit like the Berns wife and the *Ahem* capitalism they indulged themselves in.

Talk about berning a bankruptcy or two. How about an entire actual College?

Quote:Sanders departed not long after the deal was inked, giving no explanation for her resignation but reportedly accepting a $200,000 severance package, according to VPR. And the small school was left to suffocate under the “crushing weight of debt,” Holm said Monday, the Free Press reports.

Problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money...

But let me guess- It hasn't been done quite right, just yet. haha

My point is that you never shoot down. A person on the ballot should never engage with a person not on the ballot. Fauxchahontas means nothing because she isn't running.

(05-26-2016 01:43 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  This is great an all but she isn't on the ballot this year

You don't trash a balloted politician for something you have done repeatedly though firm..

There is a difference between profiting on something that has already happened and hoping something happens so that you can profit.

She's just a joke, goofy Elizabeth Warren.

(05-26-2016 08:31 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 01:43 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  This is great an all but she isn't on the ballot this year

You don't trash a balloted politician for something you have done repeatedly though firm..

They both are taking fire but it doesn't really matter to her if she takes more because she isn't running.

(05-26-2016 09:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is a difference between profiting on something that has already happened and hoping something happens so that you can profit.

ummm... Warren bought the house *hoping* she could sell it for more money than she had purchased it for. She was speculating on property.

But some animals are more equal than others.

(05-26-2016 12:05 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  


She’s been tweeting about how evil Trump is for buying houses during the bust to make a profit, when she actually did it herself.Typical leftist hypocrite.

Quote:Before the crash that she blamed on speculators, Senator Elizabeth Warren made a bundle by flipping houses.

Nearly two years after Veo Vessels died, her daughter, 70-year-old Mary Frances Hickman, decided to sell the home her mother had left to her. A sprawling brick house in Oklahoma City’s historic Highland Park neighborhood, it was built in 1924, just a year after Mary’s birth.

Decades later, one of Vessels’ great-grandchildren fondly recalls the wood and tile floors, the fish pond, the butler’s quarters, and the multi-car garage where children played house.

“It was really, really nice,” says Hickman’s granddaughter, Andrea Martin. That’s part of the reason she’s so surprised her grandmother sold the home in 1993 for a mere $30,000. Despite a debilitating stroke, Martin says Hickman remained sharp, and she had always been business-savvy. As an Avon saleswoman, she had at times ranked among the top ten in the country. “So I don’t know why,” Martin says. “Maybe she just wanted out from underneath it, but to sell it for such a low number — I don’t know. Maybe she got bad advice, maybe she was just tired.”

The home’s new owner: Elizabeth Warren, today a Massachusetts senator who has built a political career on denouncing the sort of banking titans and financial sophisticates who make a buck off the little guy. Five months after purchasing Veo Vessels’ old home, Warren flipped the property, selling it for $115,000 more than she’d paid, according to Oklahoma County Property Assessor records.

Warren rose to political prominence in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis as a crusader against big banks and a dispenser of common-sense economic advice. She campaigned for the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, intended to shield people from the predations of the mortgage and credit-card industries, among others. In her 2006 book All Your Worth, co-authored with her daughter, Amelia, Warren lists as a top myth the idea that “you can make big money buying houses and flipping them quickly.” She has made a career out of telling people how to behave in financially responsible ways, and out of creating laws that will make it illegal for them to do otherwise.

Five months after purchasing Veo Vessels’ old home, Warren flipped the property, selling it for $115,000 more than she’d paid. But Warren bought and sold at least five properties for profit at a different time in her life, before the cratering economy and a political career made her a star. Her life story has been the subject of much interest, and her 2014 memoir, A Fighting Chance, chronicled her rise from humble beginnings in small-town Oklahoma and her struggle to make ends meet. It didn’t much mention, though, the early 1990s, years when her children were teenagers and she was once again happily married. These are years when she wasn’t yet the multimillionaire she is today, and, she has said, she was voting Republican.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/41...na-johnson

there are popular TV shows all about this (flipping houses)...good for her.

(05-26-2016 10:46 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  there are popular TV shows all about this (flipping houses)...good for her.

I agree... Short-term residential real estate speculation (or flipping) is a solid way to keep the housing stock maintained and profit at the same time.

Quote:She has made a career out of telling people how to behave in financially responsible ways, and out of creating laws that will make it illegal for them to do otherwise.

The #1 rule in behaving in financially responsible ways is to never make an investment that you can't afford to lose without changing your lifestyle. I highly doubt Warren could not afford to lose $30k. I wouldn't vote for the woman if I had a gun to my head, but I fail to see the problem here.

(05-26-2016 10:44 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 09:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is a difference between profiting on something that has already happened and hoping something happens so that you can profit.

ummm... Warren bought the house *hoping* she could sell it for more money than she had purchased it for. She was speculating on property.

But some animals are more equal than others.

I don't have a problem with people hoping they could sell something for more money.

Where I draw the line is when people hope something happens to a family so that they can swoop in and profit off of their misery.

"I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy," Trump said in a 2006 audiobook from Trump University, answering a question about "gloomy predictions that the real estate market is heading for a spectacular crash."

(05-26-2016 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 10:44 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 09:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is a difference between profiting on something that has already happened and hoping something happens so that you can profit.

ummm... Warren bought the house *hoping* she could sell it for more money than she had purchased it for. She was speculating on property.

But some animals are more equal than others.

I don't have a problem with people hoping they could sell something for more money.

Where I draw the line is when people hope something happens to a family so that they can swoop in and profit off of their misery.

"I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy," Trump said in a 2006 audiobook from Trump University, answering a question about "gloomy predictions that the real estate market is heading for a spectacular crash."

She bought a 200K plus house from someone dealing with the loss of a loved one for 30K... She is as much a vulture as the banksters.

(05-26-2016 11:16 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 10:44 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 09:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is a difference between profiting on something that has already happened and hoping something happens so that you can profit.

ummm... Warren bought the house *hoping* she could sell it for more money than she had purchased it for. She was speculating on property.

But some animals are more equal than others.

I don't have a problem with people hoping they could sell something for more money.

Where I draw the line is when people hope something happens to a family so that they can swoop in and profit off of their misery.

"I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy," Trump said in a 2006 audiobook from Trump University, answering a question about "gloomy predictions that the real estate market is heading for a spectacular crash."

She bought a 200K plus house from someone dealing with the loss of a loved one for 30K... She is as much a vulture as the banksters.

You are still missing the point.

One person is clearly hoping that something bad will happen so that they can profit.

Another person is profiting after the fact without actually hoping that something bad happened.

(05-26-2016 10:46 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 12:05 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  


She’s been tweeting about how evil Trump is for buying houses during the bust to make a profit, when she actually did it herself.Typical leftist hypocrite.

Quote:Before the crash that she blamed on speculators, Senator Elizabeth Warren made a bundle by flipping houses.

Nearly two years after Veo Vessels died, her daughter, 70-year-old Mary Frances Hickman, decided to sell the home her mother had left to her. A sprawling brick house in Oklahoma City’s historic Highland Park neighborhood, it was built in 1924, just a year after Mary’s birth.

Decades later, one of Vessels’ great-grandchildren fondly recalls the wood and tile floors, the fish pond, the butler’s quarters, and the multi-car garage where children played house.

“It was really, really nice,” says Hickman’s granddaughter, Andrea Martin. That’s part of the reason she’s so surprised her grandmother sold the home in 1993 for a mere $30,000. Despite a debilitating stroke, Martin says Hickman remained sharp, and she had always been business-savvy. As an Avon saleswoman, she had at times ranked among the top ten in the country. “So I don’t know why,” Martin says. “Maybe she just wanted out from underneath it, but to sell it for such a low number — I don’t know. Maybe she got bad advice, maybe she was just tired.”

The home’s new owner: Elizabeth Warren, today a Massachusetts senator who has built a political career on denouncing the sort of banking titans and financial sophisticates who make a buck off the little guy. Five months after purchasing Veo Vessels’ old home, Warren flipped the property, selling it for $115,000 more than she’d paid, according to Oklahoma County Property Assessor records.

Warren rose to political prominence in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis as a crusader against big banks and a dispenser of common-sense economic advice. She campaigned for the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, intended to shield people from the predations of the mortgage and credit-card industries, among others. In her 2006 book All Your Worth, co-authored with her daughter, Amelia, Warren lists as a top myth the idea that “you can make big money buying houses and flipping them quickly.” She has made a career out of telling people how to behave in financially responsible ways, and out of creating laws that will make it illegal for them to do otherwise.

Five months after purchasing Veo Vessels’ old home, Warren flipped the property, selling it for $115,000 more than she’d paid. But Warren bought and sold at least five properties for profit at a different time in her life, before the cratering economy and a political career made her a star. Her life story has been the subject of much interest, and her 2014 memoir, A Fighting Chance, chronicled her rise from humble beginnings in small-town Oklahoma and her struggle to make ends meet. It didn’t much mention, though, the early 1990s, years when her children were teenagers and she was once again happily married. These are years when she wasn’t yet the multimillionaire she is today, and, she has said, she was voting Republican.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/41...na-johnson

there are popular TV shows all about this (flipping houses)...good for her.

Agreed, Capitalism is a good thing.

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(05-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 11:16 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 10:44 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 09:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is a difference between profiting on something that has already happened and hoping something happens so that you can profit.

ummm... Warren bought the house *hoping* she could sell it for more money than she had purchased it for. She was speculating on property.

But some animals are more equal than others.

I don't have a problem with people hoping they could sell something for more money.

Where I draw the line is when people hope something happens to a family so that they can swoop in and profit off of their misery.

"I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy," Trump said in a 2006 audiobook from Trump University, answering a question about "gloomy predictions that the real estate market is heading for a spectacular crash."

She bought a 200K plus house from someone dealing with the loss of a loved one for 30K... She is as much a vulture as the banksters.

You are still missing the point.

One person is clearly hoping that something bad will happen so that they can profit.

Another person is profiting after the fact without actually hoping that something bad happened.

You can rip off old ladies as long as you have the right emotions while doing it.

(05-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 11:16 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 10:44 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 09:41 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is a difference between profiting on something that has already happened and hoping something happens so that you can profit.

ummm... Warren bought the house *hoping* she could sell it for more money than she had purchased it for. She was speculating on property.

But some animals are more equal than others.

I don't have a problem with people hoping they could sell something for more money.

Where I draw the line is when people hope something happens to a family so that they can swoop in and profit off of their misery.

"I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy," Trump said in a 2006 audiobook from Trump University, answering a question about "gloomy predictions that the real estate market is heading for a spectacular crash."

She bought a 200K plus house from someone dealing with the loss of a loved one for 30K... She is as much a vulture as the banksters.

You are still missing the point.

One person is clearly hoping that something bad will happen so that they can profit.

Another person is profiting after the fact without actually hoping that something bad happened.

One takes a risk and the other is a vulture....

The risk taker buys hoping that what they buy can be sold for more money later on..
The vulture finds a tragity that's already happened and starts to feed..

(05-26-2016 11:39 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 11:32 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 11:16 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-26-2016 10:44 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  ummm... Warren bought the house *hoping* she could sell it for more money than she had purchased it for. She was speculating on property.

But some animals are more equal than others.

I don't have a problem with people hoping they could sell something for more money.

Where I draw the line is when people hope something happens to a family so that they can swoop in and profit off of their misery.

"I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy," Trump said in a 2006 audiobook from Trump University, answering a question about "gloomy predictions that the real estate market is heading for a spectacular crash."

She bought a 200K plus house from someone dealing with the loss of a loved one for 30K... She is as much a vulture as the banksters.

You are still missing the point.

One person is clearly hoping that something bad will happen so that they can profit.

Another person is profiting after the fact without actually hoping that something bad happened.

One takes a risk and the other is a vulture....

The risk taker buys hoping that what they buy can be sold for more money later on..
The vulture finds a tragity that's already happened and starts to feed..

They might both be vultures but what Trump is doing is schadenfreude