(05-14-2016 07:41 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(05-13-2016 10:22 PM)Realignment Wrote:  Conference USA probably wants to go back down to 12 teams badly. I could see a couple members jumping ship to the Sun Belt if they get a better TV deal when its time for them to re-up.

I nominate this for dumbest post of the year...

I suppose DavidSt now has an alternate identity

(05-14-2016 07:41 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(05-13-2016 10:22 PM)Realignment Wrote:  Conference USA probably wants to go back down to 12 teams badly. I could see a couple members jumping ship to the Sun Belt if they get a better TV deal when its time for them to re-up.

I nominate this for dumbest post of the year...

No ..... dumbest post of the decade

(05-14-2016 08:59 PM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 07:41 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(05-13-2016 10:22 PM)Realignment Wrote:  Conference USA probably wants to go back down to 12 teams badly. I could see a couple members jumping ship to the Sun Belt if they get a better TV deal when its time for them to re-up.

I nominate this for dumbest post of the year...

No ..... dumbest post of the decade

I third that...the SBC isn't looking to add any new members at this time and that includes CUSA schools, too. The Belt is pretty happy with the 10 member model (as they should be) for the foreseeable future. As things stand right now, a CUSA school has about as much of a chance to be invited to the SBC as it does being invited by the B12

Quote:Fox Sports will no longer televise Conference USA football and men’s and women’s basketball and will be replaced as the league’s high-profile TV outlet by ESPN

http://pilotonline.com/sports/college/ol...6fa73.html

(05-14-2016 09:05 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 08:59 PM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 07:41 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(05-13-2016 10:22 PM)Realignment Wrote:  Conference USA probably wants to go back down to 12 teams badly. I could see a couple members jumping ship to the Sun Belt if they get a better TV deal when its time for them to re-up.

I nominate this for dumbest post of the year...

No ..... dumbest post of the decade

I third that...the SBC isn't looking to add any new members at this time and that includes CUSA schools, too. The Belt is pretty happy with the 10 member model (as they should be) for the foreseeable future. As things stand right now, a CUSA school has about as much of a chance to be invited to the SBC as it does being invited by the B12

Damn It!!!

(05-14-2016 09:05 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 08:59 PM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 07:41 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(05-13-2016 10:22 PM)Realignment Wrote:  Conference USA probably wants to go back down to 12 teams badly. I could see a couple members jumping ship to the Sun Belt if they get a better TV deal when its time for them to re-up.

I nominate this for dumbest post of the year...

No ..... dumbest post of the decade

I third that...the SBC isn't looking to add any new members at this time and that includes CUSA schools, too. The Belt is pretty happy with the 10 member model (as they should be) for the foreseeable future. As things stand right now, a CUSA school has about as much of a chance to be invited to the SBC as it does being invited by the B12

Any SBC school would jump to CUSA as usual

(05-18-2016 03:59 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 09:05 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 08:59 PM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 07:41 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(05-13-2016 10:22 PM)Realignment Wrote:  Conference USA probably wants to go back down to 12 teams badly. I could see a couple members jumping ship to the Sun Belt if they get a better TV deal when its time for them to re-up.

I nominate this for dumbest post of the year...

No ..... dumbest post of the decade

I third that...the SBC isn't looking to add any new members at this time and that includes CUSA schools, too. The Belt is pretty happy with the 10 member model (as they should be) for the foreseeable future. As things stand right now, a CUSA school has about as much of a chance to be invited to the SBC as it does being invited by the B12

Any SBC school would jump to CUSA as usual

Not really. Would be an internal conversation now.

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(05-18-2016 04:02 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 03:59 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 09:05 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 08:59 PM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 07:41 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  I nominate this for dumbest post of the year...

No ..... dumbest post of the decade

I third that...the SBC isn't looking to add any new members at this time and that includes CUSA schools, too. The Belt is pretty happy with the 10 member model (as they should be) for the foreseeable future. As things stand right now, a CUSA school has about as much of a chance to be invited to the SBC as it does being invited by the B12

Any SBC school would jump to CUSA as usual

Not really. Would be an internal conversation now.

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Absolutely agree. An SBC school would have to validate burning millions of dollars with little hope of recovering the investment within decades to a lot of people in order to "jump" (<-- NEWSFLASH: It's no longer a "jump").

They would all still jump. Our group of schools are still more prestigious than theirs, so even if it cost them money they still would just to be associated with us.

(05-19-2016 12:48 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 04:02 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 03:59 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 09:05 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 08:59 PM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  No ..... dumbest post of the decade

I third that...the SBC isn't looking to add any new members at this time and that includes CUSA schools, too. The Belt is pretty happy with the 10 member model (as they should be) for the foreseeable future. As things stand right now, a CUSA school has about as much of a chance to be invited to the SBC as it does being invited by the B12

Any SBC school would jump to CUSA as usual

Not really. Would be an internal conversation now.

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Absolutely agree. An SBC school would have to validate burning millions of dollars with little hope of recovering the investment within decades to a lot of people in order to "jump" (<-- NEWSFLASH: It's no longer a "jump").

It all depends on the perspective. It makes tons of sense for Texas State because they would be near several in-state programs. It would make sense for ODU as well because they would get to re-unite with former conference mate Marshall and in-state school Charlotte. They'd be close to MT and WKU as well.

For ULL, it'd put them in a conference with USM and La Tech, both of which would be more appealing to fans than SBC schools.

It's not that the SBC is collectively a worse conference than CUSA based on performance anymore, it's that CUSA has a lot of schools that would be appealing to SBC schools to be associated with for geographical or historical reasons.

(05-19-2016 12:48 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 04:02 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-18-2016 03:59 PM)Blazer88 Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 09:05 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-14-2016 08:59 PM)ODU Oldtimer Wrote:  No ..... dumbest post of the decade

I third that...the SBC isn't looking to add any new members at this time and that includes CUSA schools, too. The Belt is pretty happy with the 10 member model (as they should be) for the foreseeable future. As things stand right now, a CUSA school has about as much of a chance to be invited to the SBC as it does being invited by the B12

Any SBC school would jump to CUSA as usual

Not really. Would be an internal conversation now.

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Absolutely agree. An SBC school would have to validate burning millions of dollars with little hope of recovering the investment within decades to a lot of people in order to "jump" (<-- NEWSFLASH: It's no longer a "jump").

Last time I checked $500,000 x a decade is $5,000,000 are you saying it cost 5 million to switch conferences? While the SBC does get 1 million a year...no team gets a dollar of that money. It's used by the conference to support their offices.

You can see this by looking t ULM's and ULL's reporting documents to their state. ULM listed $0 from TV and ULL around 50k I guess mostly from local

Not only is there TV money but each former SBC school that jumped to CUSA is making millions more (most in the 3 to 4 mil more range) in fees and licensing . So take away the $600k lost on a lower TV contract and you are still millions on the plus side

Sorry chief, SBC schools REFUSE to accept the "fees,licensing" aspect of this argument.


...And you can say it till King Karl becomes a rock star and it still will not be believed by most(SBC).

(05-19-2016 01:31 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Sorry chief, SBC schools REFUSE to accept the "fees,licensing" aspect of this argument.


...And you can say it till King Karl becomes a rock star and it still will not be believed by most(SBC).

It is denial, just like when they say the SBC is as good as CUSA then you show them the head to head record over the past 2 years.

I thought the Apple State stupidity was reserved for their fans but it seems to have infected that whole conference.

Some of you guys are fooling yourselves. The average fan cannot tell the difference between a CUSA school and a SBC school anymore. Those days are gone and so is the financial incentive to move. Like another poster said, it'd be more like an SBC school making an investment to join other regional foes but that could happen the other way around, too. Costs now are not only the exit/entry fees, there is also the CFP & bowl payouts. The SBC already makes more in bowl revenues per school as well as $1.2M per school at the very least in CFP payouts starting in 2018. The Belt makes more CFP bucks now anyway. So CUSA is getting more TV revenue (presently - TBD in a couple years) but it's closer to a wash in per school revenues than it is a gap now. NCAA BB units are equal over the last two years as well.

You do have a couple of brands we don't but that still doesn't translate to the average (casual) fan who doesn't know or care what conference the teams are from on M-F programming. Your conference "brand" has taken a huge hit, which is evidenced by your new TV deal. Ours is so bad it can't go anywhere but up - but that remains to be seen.

I'm not "dissing" CUSA at all. I'm just pointing out the obvious to anyone not wearing rose-colored glasses. Things have changed...and we're both in this together, which is why I enjoy posting and reading over here.

(05-19-2016 02:59 PM)airtroop Wrote:  The SBC already makes more in bowl revenues per school as well as $1.2M per school at the very least in CFP payouts starting in 2018.

You do realize it is $1M per school for a max of $12M per conference. So 10 member conference gets $10M. You will not be getting Idaho or NMSU CFP monies to split with the remaining members, so where is the extra $.2M coming from?

(05-19-2016 03:09 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(05-19-2016 02:59 PM)airtroop Wrote:  The SBC already makes more in bowl revenues per school as well as $1.2M per school at the very least in CFP payouts starting in 2018.

You do realize it is $1M per school for a max of $12M per conference. So 10 member conference gets $10M. You will not be getting Idaho or NMSU CFP monies to split with the remaining members, so where is the extra $.2M coming from?

It's $10 Mil per conference not 12. Amount was changed to add more money to the performance pot.

(05-19-2016 03:32 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2016 03:09 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(05-19-2016 02:59 PM)airtroop Wrote:  The SBC already makes more in bowl revenues per school as well as $1.2M per school at the very least in CFP payouts starting in 2018.

You do realize it is $1M per school for a max of $12M per conference. So 10 member conference gets $10M. You will not be getting Idaho or NMSU CFP monies to split with the remaining members, so where is the extra $.2M coming from?

It's $10 Mil per conference not 12. Amount was changed to add more money to the performance pot.

Great that means more money for us

(05-19-2016 02:59 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Some of you guys are fooling yourselves. The average fan cannot tell the difference between a CUSA school and a SBC school anymore. Those days are gone and so is the financial incentive to move. Like another poster said, it'd be more like an SBC school making an investment to join other regional foes but that could happen the other way around, too. Costs now are not only the exit/entry fees, there is also the CFP & bowl payouts. The SBC already makes more in bowl revenues per school as well as $1.2M per school at the very least in CFP payouts starting in 2018. The Belt makes more CFP bucks now anyway. So CUSA is getting more TV revenue (presently - TBD in a couple years) but it's closer to a wash in per school revenues than it is a gap now. NCAA BB units are equal over the last two years as well.

You do have a couple of brands we don't but that still doesn't translate to the average (casual) fan who doesn't know or care what conference the teams are from on M-F programming. Your conference "brand" has taken a huge hit, which is evidenced by your new TV deal. Ours is so bad it can't go anywhere but up - but that remains to be seen.

I'm not "dissing" CUSA at all. I'm just pointing out the obvious to anyone not wearing rose-colored glasses. Things have changed...and we're both in this together, which is why I enjoy posting and reading over here.

You're not too far off. I'd add that the MAC, CUSA and SBC are definitely in this together as well as the AAC and MWC. Those two may be slightly ahead in perception, but they are a lot closer to us than to the P5. Therefore al 5 of us need to band together rather than try to tear each other down. At least until the P5 separate themselves officially. The G5 should always act in solidarity with one another.

I wonder what would happen if all 5 G5 conferences joined together for one TV package. Would the all or nothing gamble cause the networks to pay more for all G5 content increasing the cash for each school or would it just hurt the guys at the top? I'd actually like to see that. Every school would get an equal cut of the TV revenue pie. Thats what the whole NCAA should do as well. They should own the rights to NCAA games, negotiate a deal and distribute the cash out evenly to every NCAA D1 member.

(05-19-2016 03:32 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2016 03:09 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(05-19-2016 02:59 PM)airtroop Wrote:  The SBC already makes more in bowl revenues per school as well as $1.2M per school at the very least in CFP payouts starting in 2018.

You do realize it is $1M per school for a max of $12M per conference. So 10 member conference gets $10M. You will not be getting Idaho or NMSU CFP monies to split with the remaining members, so where is the extra $.2M coming from?

It's $10 Mil per conference not 12. Amount was changed to add more money to the performance pot.

Dang, well that drops SBC schools from $1.2M per school to $1M per school in CFP money then. OK.

(05-19-2016 03:46 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-19-2016 03:32 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2016 03:09 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(05-19-2016 02:59 PM)airtroop Wrote:  The SBC already makes more in bowl revenues per school as well as $1.2M per school at the very least in CFP payouts starting in 2018.

You do realize it is $1M per school for a max of $12M per conference. So 10 member conference gets $10M. You will not be getting Idaho or NMSU CFP monies to split with the remaining members, so where is the extra $.2M coming from?

It's $10 Mil per conference not 12. Amount was changed to add more money to the performance pot.

Dang, well that drops SBC schools from $1.2M per school to $1M per school in CFP money then. OK.

No, it was $1 million per school, capped at $12 million total. If you had 10 schools, you got $10 million. If you had 12 schools, you got $12 million. If you had 14 schools, you got $12 million.