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Big 12 expansion is dead for the time being
Boren: "If there's not going to be a network, there's no need for expansion. If there is a network, there almost has to be expansion."

https://twitter.com/john_shinn/status/73...7876176896

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Boren: “If you’re going to have a network, you’re probably going to have 12 or 14 members” to have enough content.

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/...5108713474

Since Texas is not giving up the LHN this is over.
05-12-2016 04:28 PM
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Yay!
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RE: Big 12 expansion is dead for the time being
Been saying the same for while. This whole playoff % talk is a head fake. It comes down to revenue, and no revenue model is going to close the gap without a conference network.
05-12-2016 04:32 PM
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(05-12-2016 04:32 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  Been saying the same for while. This whole playoff % talk is a head fake. It comes down to revenue, and no revenue model is going to close the gap without a conference network.

You are correct. It is all about revenue.
05-12-2016 04:39 PM
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So how much is politicking so Boren can tell the good folks in ok state congress "we tried but now we have to leave okie state behind for the ____ conference"?
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Boren switched things around.

Network first or who gives a f'.

Before it was expand and then try to get the network.
05-12-2016 04:44 PM
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Boren has been consistent, expansion, CCG, Network, all 3.
05-12-2016 04:46 PM
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(05-12-2016 04:28 PM)KUGR Wrote:  Boren: "If there's not going to be a network, there's no need for expansion. If there is a network, there almost has to be expansion."

https://twitter.com/john_shinn/status/73...7876176896

and...

Boren: “If you’re going to have a network, you’re probably going to have 12 or 14 members” to have enough content.

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/...5108713474

Since Texas is not giving up the LHN this is over.

So Oklahoma and whoever is going to wait until the GOR expires and not move? Does not mean there will not be expansion.
05-12-2016 04:48 PM
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Looks like the Big 12 is set at 10 for at least a few more years.
05-12-2016 05:36 PM
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I have to say Oklahoma is moving Sooner than later. They will fight the GoRs. They have the money. Other schools in the Big 12 does not have the money.

Texas greed on holding onto the LHN have killed another conference. R.I.P. Big 12.
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(05-12-2016 05:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I have to say Oklahoma is moving Sooner than later. They will fight the GoRs. They have the money. Other schools in the Big 12 does not have the money.

Texas greed on holding onto the LHN have killed another conference. R.I.P. Big 12.

That's not a fair assessment. If it wasn't for UT the conference would've ended years ago when the Pac12 sought to invade.
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Boren is looking for a way to get out. He's dropped hints. The Big 12 better listen.
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Hell freezes over before Texas gives up the LHN to morph it into the B12 network. There's no upside for them to do it.
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RE: Big 12 expansion is dead for the time being
(05-12-2016 06:18 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(05-12-2016 05:37 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I have to say Oklahoma is moving Sooner than later. They will fight the GoRs. They have the money. Other schools in the Big 12 does not have the money.

Texas greed on holding onto the LHN have killed another conference. R.I.P. Big 12.

That's not a fair assessment. If it wasn't for UT the conference would've ended years ago when the Pac12 sought to invade.
So you are saying that when Texas was negotiating with the PAC-12 to take Texas, OU, OSU and Texas A&M, if they had not failed in their efforts to bring Texas A&M along, the Big12 would have been ripped apart? So it was Texas's arrogant high-handedness that is responsible for the Big12's continued survival?

That seems like a would be assassin misses and somebody crediting their crediting the the miss with "saving the target's life".
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RE: Big 12 expansion is dead for the time being
(05-12-2016 04:28 PM)KUGR Wrote:  Boren: "If there's not going to be a network, there's no need for expansion. If there is a network, there almost has to be expansion."

https://twitter.com/john_shinn/status/73...7876176896

and...

Boren: “If you’re going to have a network, you’re probably going to have 12 or 14 members” to have enough content.

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/...5108713474

Since Texas is not giving up the LHN this is over.


Did it ever really begin?

Did anyone think that Texas would roll on the LHN?
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(05-12-2016 07:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Hell freezes over before Texas gives up the LHN to morph it into the B12 network. There's no upside for them to do it.

LHN = failure= losing money for both Texas and ESPN.
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(05-12-2016 04:28 PM)KUGR Wrote:  Boren: "If there's not going to be a network, there's no need for expansion. If there is a network, there almost has to be expansion."

https://twitter.com/john_shinn/status/73...7876176896

and...

Boren: “If you’re going to have a network, you’re probably going to have 12 or 14 members” to have enough content.

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/...5108713474

Since Texas is not giving up the LHN this is over.

Shouldn't you be working instead of fishing?
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(05-12-2016 08:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-12-2016 07:31 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Hell freezes over before Texas gives up the LHN to morph it into the B12 network. There's no upside for them to do it.

LHN = failure= losing money for both Texas and ESPN.

Texas is losing?
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Texas is making lots of money on the LHN at ESPN's expense.
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He said this too...

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Boren: "You’ve got to make Texas financially whole. You can’t expect them to give up $15 million.” Well, there it is.
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