(05-09-2016 07:18 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:15 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  They are, in everything but football and basketball right now.

You do realize LSU colors are what they are because of Tulane right? That Tulane vs LSU in football is still one of the most played rivalries in history, even with us not playing since 2007? That Tulane vs LSU in baseball still sets attendance records to this day?

College athletics didn't spring fully formed out of ESPN's head like Athena.

So basically they aren't on par in the only two sports anyone cares about.....

How convenient you don't care about baseball anymore. Houston has no room on any subject. I do think Herman is doing a good job for two years. We are still one year removed from beating you in football. Don't forget that..

(05-09-2016 09:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:58 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:18 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:15 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  They are, in everything but football and basketball right now.

You do realize LSU colors are what they are because of Tulane right? That Tulane vs LSU in football is still one of the most played rivalries in history, even with us not playing since 2007? That Tulane vs LSU in baseball still sets attendance records to this day?

College athletics didn't spring fully formed out of ESPN's head like Athena.

So basically they aren't on par in the only two sports anyone cares about.....

If it were all about those two sports we'd still be in CUSA. It's not.

Yeah, I don't think we are a favorite for the Big XII if they only took 2. But I wouldn't be surprised either. The only people who would are people who don't know jack about conference expansion.

But it was those same two sports that got you kicked out of the sec.

We didn't get kicked out of the SEC but you sure got kicked out of the SWC!! Dats truth

(05-09-2016 11:18 PM)pablowow Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 09:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:58 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:18 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:15 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  They are, in everything but football and basketball right now.

You do realize LSU colors are what they are because of Tulane right? That Tulane vs LSU in football is still one of the most played rivalries in history, even with us not playing since 2007? That Tulane vs LSU in baseball still sets attendance records to this day?

College athletics didn't spring fully formed out of ESPN's head like Athena.

So basically they aren't on par in the only two sports anyone cares about.....

If it were all about those two sports we'd still be in CUSA. It's not.

Yeah, I don't think we are a favorite for the Big XII if they only took 2. But I wouldn't be surprised either. The only people who would are people who don't know jack about conference expansion.

But it was those same two sports that got you kicked out of the sec.

We didn't get kicked out of the SEC but you sure got kicked out of the SWC!! Dats truth

Umm no the swc conference died learn your history. UH was kept out of the big 8 which would become the big 12.

(05-09-2016 11:16 PM)pablowow Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:18 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:15 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  They are, in everything but football and basketball right now.

You do realize LSU colors are what they are because of Tulane right? That Tulane vs LSU in football is still one of the most played rivalries in history, even with us not playing since 2007? That Tulane vs LSU in baseball still sets attendance records to this day?

College athletics didn't spring fully formed out of ESPN's head like Athena.

So basically they aren't on par in the only two sports anyone cares about.....

How convenient you don't care about baseball anymore. Houston has no room on any subject. I do think Herman is doing a good job for two years. We are still one year removed from beating you in football. Don't forget that..

Well seeing as how i have never cared about baseball..... Im not sure what you mean by houston has no room on any subject seeing as how tulane has had one winning football season in over 10 years. Houston just finished in the top 8 and beat four ranked teams, not to mention we just won a major bowl. When was the last time Tulane won a major bow the 50's!

Lets not for get you beat you beat a tony levine led team. You might as well hang your hat on beating an fcs team. The houston team lead by a real coach crushed so you have no room to talk.

Sorry Tulane, You won't get into the b12 because of TCU and Baylor - yes you are more similar to those two than to Houston or Memphis, but that's not a good thing here. Small private schools like Tulane don't grow the brand, base, or value. Tulane has less of a hold on New Orleans than UH does of Houston.

The only way to change this is to win until you have enough fans for a 50k seat stadium, and even then you have to catch the powers that be at the right time.


The b12 is hurting because they swapped Texas a&m for TCU, and TCU is way ahead of Tulane athletically - imagine how adding Tulane would dilute the b12 further.


Hell, adding Tulane diluted the AAC if we are being honest. No one cares about hosting Tulane, I look at it as a game we will struggle to get people to show up for.


Take your AAU and shove it, I'd rather have an extra non conference game than have TU come to town.

I'm confused as to why Tulane fans are beating out their chest all of a sudden? In the last 15 years you are 63-123 in football (CUSA football mind you) and 223-274 in basketball. You play in an empty basketball arena and your football stadium looks like the Hoover High football team will run out at any moment. It's good to have history but no one cares about Tulane being in the SEC 50 years ago. You've been bottom dwellers in CUSA and your bottom dwellers now in the AAC. You've got exceptional academics? Well that's great, maybe that Ivy League invite will come soon. And Tulane vs. LSU as a rivalry in football, give me a break, I don't think I even need to discuss that. The only valid comment I've seen up here from Tulane fans is that the LSU vs. Tulane baseball games are great college baseball games. They are probably some of the best in the country and truly are rivalries. But I'm sorry, that does nothing for Tulane in peoples eyes. As much as I love baseball, if baseball mattered Tulane and ECU both would've been in better conference 15 years ago.

(05-10-2016 04:40 AM)vcoog Wrote:  Sorry Tulane, You won't get into the b12 because of TCU and Baylor - yes you are more similar to those two than to Houston or Memphis, but that's not a good thing here. Small private schools like Tulane don't grow the brand, base, or value. Tulane has less of a hold on New Orleans than UH does of Houston.

The only way to change this is to win until you have enough fans for a 50k seat stadium, and even then you have to catch the powers that be at the right time.


The b12 is hurting because they swapped Texas a&m for TCU, and TCU is way ahead of Tulane athletically - imagine how adding Tulane would dilute the b12 further.


Hell, adding Tulane diluted the AAC if we are being honest. No one cares about hosting Tulane, I look at it as a game we will struggle to get people to show up for.


Take your AAU and shove it, I'd rather have an extra non conference game than have TU come to town.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...nvite-most

You are really showing your ass here. Conference realignment is not just about sports. And ADs don't make the decisions, the presidents do. Only reason we aren't in the BigXII right now is because of Louisville backing out, and there not being a good enough candidate to replace them. Tulane is still Tulane. We are in an even better position than we were when that article was written. So the question isn't if Tulane might get an add, it's is there a school like Louisville out there that would make a good pair to take with Tulane.

Stable conferences like the Pac 12 and Big10 have Northwesterns, Purdues, Cals, etc because conference runs deeper than sports. You have academic/research/resource/investment/political/business networks, agreements and compacts. A student at Indiana can access all of the academic resources at Purdue, for instance.

A conference that is nothing more than a sports league is the AAC-- inherently unstable, with everyone always looking for greener grass. Value add is more than just about sports. OU understands this, and it's why their prez has openly pushed for us.

The article was garbage front to back. He lost me with Haw and charlotte. And when did B12 have 14.

I like the concept of adding schools to the current P5 conferences and rounding to 16. It'll never happen, but I like it.

PAC: 12 + Houston, New Mexico, San Diego St, and either Nevada or UNLV
SEC: 14 + East Carolina and South Florida
B1G: 14 + Connecticut and Temple
ACC: 14 + Central Florida and Notre Dame
XII: 10 + Boise St, BYU, Cincinnati, Colorado St, Memphis, and Tulane

(05-10-2016 08:05 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 04:40 AM)vcoog Wrote:  Sorry Tulane, You won't get into the b12 because of TCU and Baylor - yes you are more similar to those two than to Houston or Memphis, but that's not a good thing here. Small private schools like Tulane don't grow the brand, base, or value. Tulane has less of a hold on New Orleans than UH does of Houston.

The only way to change this is to win until you have enough fans for a 50k seat stadium, and even then you have to catch the powers that be at the right time.


The b12 is hurting because they swapped Texas a&m for TCU, and TCU is way ahead of Tulane athletically - imagine how adding Tulane would dilute the b12 further.


Hell, adding Tulane diluted the AAC if we are being honest. No one cares about hosting Tulane, I look at it as a game we will struggle to get people to show up for.


Take your AAU and shove it, I'd rather have an extra non conference game than have TU come to town.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...nvite-most

You are really showing your ass here. Conference realignment is not just about sports. And ADs don't make the decisions, the presidents do. Only reason we aren't in the BigXII right now is because of Louisville backing out, and there not being a good enough candidate to replace them. Tulane is still Tulane. We are in an even better position than we were when that article was written. So the question isn't if Tulane might get an add, it's is there a school like Louisville out there that would make a good pair to take with Tulane.

Stable conferences like the Pac 12 and Big10 have Northwesterns, Purdues, Cals, etc because conference runs deeper than sports. You have academic/research/resource/investment/political/business networks, agreements and compacts. A student at Indiana can access all of the academic resources at Purdue, for instance.

A conference that is nothing more than a sports league is the AAC-- inherently unstable, with everyone always looking for greener grass. Value add is more than just about sports. OU understands this, and it's why their prez has openly pushed for us.

I never discredited the value of being a good academic institution, just that the b12 doesn't need another. The b12 isn't full of dummy schools.

Being in texas is pretty valuable when it comes to expansion candidates, but it means nothing when the b12 has 4 other Texas schools.

The b12 has 4 schools at least that are around as good or better than Tulane academically.


Cinci and UCONN are going to the b12. Tulane probably will just quit playing sports like rice will when they see its no longer beneficial to the brand or the budget.

(05-10-2016 09:55 AM)vcoog Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 08:05 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 04:40 AM)vcoog Wrote:  Sorry Tulane, You won't get into the b12 because of TCU and Baylor - yes you are more similar to those two than to Houston or Memphis, but that's not a good thing here. Small private schools like Tulane don't grow the brand, base, or value. Tulane has less of a hold on New Orleans than UH does of Houston.

The only way to change this is to win until you have enough fans for a 50k seat stadium, and even then you have to catch the powers that be at the right time.


The b12 is hurting because they swapped Texas a&m for TCU, and TCU is way ahead of Tulane athletically - imagine how adding Tulane would dilute the b12 further.


Hell, adding Tulane diluted the AAC if we are being honest. No one cares about hosting Tulane, I look at it as a game we will struggle to get people to show up for.


Take your AAU and shove it, I'd rather have an extra non conference game than have TU come to town.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...nvite-most

You are really showing your ass here. Conference realignment is not just about sports. And ADs don't make the decisions, the presidents do. Only reason we aren't in the BigXII right now is because of Louisville backing out, and there not being a good enough candidate to replace them. Tulane is still Tulane. We are in an even better position than we were when that article was written. So the question isn't if Tulane might get an add, it's is there a school like Louisville out there that would make a good pair to take with Tulane.

Stable conferences like the Pac 12 and Big10 have Northwesterns, Purdues, Cals, etc because conference runs deeper than sports. You have academic/research/resource/investment/political/business networks, agreements and compacts. A student at Indiana can access all of the academic resources at Purdue, for instance.

A conference that is nothing more than a sports league is the AAC-- inherently unstable, with everyone always looking for greener grass. Value add is more than just about sports. OU understands this, and it's why their prez has openly pushed for us.

I never discredited the value of being a good academic institution, just that the b12 doesn't need another. The b12 isn't full of dummy schools.

Being in texas is pretty valuable when it comes to expansion candidates, but it means nothing when the b12 has 4 other Texas schools.

The b12 has 4 schools at least that are around as good or better than Tulane academically.


Cinci and UCONN are going to the b12. Tulane probably will just quit playing sports like rice will when they see its no longer beneficial to the brand or the budget.

They don't. TCU and Baylor aren't academically prestigious private schools. They are religious private schools with Texan political connections when the BigXII was formed. Just because you are a private school does not make you academic or elite. The Big12 only has 3/10 AAU universities-- Iowa State, Texas and Kansas. By comparison, the B1G has 13/14 (14 until Nebraska got kicked out), the Pac12 has 9/14, the ACC 6/15 (lost 2 when Syracuse got kicked out/maryland left), and the SEC 5/14. You read that right, the SEC is academically on par/ahead of the BigXII. The only G5 AAU left are Tulane, Buffalo, and Rice. Not UConn, not Cincy.

If the BigXII wants to be on par with the other conferences, they need a better AAU/member ratio, not a worse one. Unless you can get a P5 school to defect, the only choices are Tulane, Buffalo, and Rice.

You take UConn/Memphis/Cincy for sports and market, Tulane for AAU, market, and recruiting. (Houston is in a tough spot because of Texas politics.) Makes perfect sense to University Presidents and paid consultant types. Who are the ones making the decisions here. Not fans or ADs.

Tulane football and basketball are a work in progress. But aside from that?

AAU (1/3 5 AAUs left).
In a state with only one other p5 (very few of those out there).
Top market.
Top facilities.
Name recognition.
Political connections.
Wealth.
National alumni base.

Football and Basketball products are just that-- products. They can be fixed, it just takes the right people and the money. The other metrics that Tulane has? You can't just go out and buy those.The ceiling for Tulane is extremely high. If the BigXII doesn't nejerk expand this summer, and Tulane does well enough under Fritz and Dunleavy next year to be at least Rutgers respectable? They become an extremely attractive candidate.

The longer this expansion talk drags on, the better Tulane looks. You just need a top performing football North East/Midwest school to pair them with as an add. If we aren't in at 12 we will be in when they go to 14.

You're right, Tulane isn't strong enough on its own right now. But there isn't anyone else strong enough on their own either. If you are going to add 2 schools, you add 2 schools that complement each other's weakness and are an net value-add when combined together. Tulane is the only option out there to check the academic/prestige boxes that other candidates don't have.

As a package, BYU, Tulane, UConn and Memphis hits all the right points. Its just a question of politics and posturing at this point.

(05-09-2016 07:03 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 06:34 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.

"peers"...What do you mean by peers? Do you mean that because you're more geographically central to them?

Because that's just about the only similarity between an academically-centric private school of less than 10k in Louisiana and state public flagship behemoth schools in TX and OK.

Neither ECU nor Tulane are in similar situations to those schools.

Don't be dense. He's speaking about academic/institutional prestige. AAU status. And the BigXII isn't full of UT/OUs. Tulane has more in common with TCU, Baylor, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Texas Tech than it does with Memphis, East Carolina or U_Fs. There is a reason why there are only 3 AAU member institutions in the entire G5, but they are a strong plurality in the P5.

There's also the history. You can find game day programs of Tulane and Texas playing each other in big time football 100 years ago, 90 years ago, 70 years ago, 50 years ago, etc. Only other AAC team that can make a claim like that is Houston or Temple. The first sugar bowl was Tulane vs Temple.

Yeah, Tulane isn't an out and out favorite. But to dismiss them as having no chance and being a nobody is just showing off how little you know about college sports and what college presidents care about. Tulane is a blue blood, even if they've only just started emphasizing sports again for the first time in 20 years. We've been playing D1 football and baseball since before ECU even existed. P5 programs have that kind of pedigree. ECU doesn't.

How many P5 wins does Tulame have in the past 25 years? How many fans? Not many on either account. No one in the P5 wants to play at Tulane in front of 10 people who got free tickets. That looks like crap on TV too. Just like it does now when anyone plays at Tulane. No chance.

(05-10-2016 10:19 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:03 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 06:34 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.

"peers"...What do you mean by peers? Do you mean that because you're more geographically central to them?

Because that's just about the only similarity between an academically-centric private school of less than 10k in Louisiana and state public flagship behemoth schools in TX and OK.

Neither ECU nor Tulane are in similar situations to those schools.

Don't be dense. He's speaking about academic/institutional prestige. AAU status. And the BigXII isn't full of UT/OUs. Tulane has more in common with TCU, Baylor, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Texas Tech than it does with Memphis, East Carolina or U_Fs. There is a reason why there are only 3 AAU member institutions in the entire G5, but they are a strong plurality in the P5.

There's also the history. You can find game day programs of Tulane and Texas playing each other in big time football 100 years ago, 90 years ago, 70 years ago, 50 years ago, etc. Only other AAC team that can make a claim like that is Houston or Temple. The first sugar bowl was Tulane vs Temple.

Yeah, Tulane isn't an out and out favorite. But to dismiss them as having no chance and being a nobody is just showing off how little you know about college sports and what college presidents care about. Tulane is a blue blood, even if they've only just started emphasizing sports again for the first time in 20 years. We've been playing D1 football and baseball since before ECU even existed. P5 programs have that kind of pedigree. ECU doesn't.

How many P5 wins does Tulame have in the past 25 years? How many fans? Not many on either account. No one in the P5 wants to play at Tulane in front of 10 people who got free tickets. That looks like crap on TV too. Just like it does now when anyone plays at Tulane. No chance.

9 wins against p5 in the last 25 years. Just as many really close games that could have gone either way. Includes a 12-0 season before the BCS allowed non BCS conferences to play in BCS bowl games. Heck, we are the reason why they created the BCS buster rule. Should have played Tenn that year in the Sugar Bowl, ended up in Liberty v BYU. Would have been in the playoff under new system.

You just don't like Tulane. Its pretty obvious. 10 fans? Free tickets? Please. We have 15K season ticket holders alone in football. Georgia Tech and Duke were both hard sellouts. We set the record at the New Orleans bowl for attendance (60k+). 55k came to watch Texas v Tulane in the dome a few years back. We always pack the place for big name opponents. Not our fault no one in Nola wants to come see East Carolina or Southern Florida. Theres about 30k Tulane fans in New Orleans area who will show up for big games. Its just not a mid-major town. Hardcore group of fans is only about 10K (the rest of the season tickets are usually just a way casual fans stay connected/donate)-- but there are lots of casual fans who turn out when its worth the effort. We aren't Greenville, NC, this is New Orleans. There are better things to do on a fall Saturday than watch a football game against teams with cardinal directions in their names.

You really don't know jack about conference realignment, do you?

(05-10-2016 09:55 AM)vcoog Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 08:05 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 04:40 AM)vcoog Wrote:  Sorry Tulane, You won't get into the b12 because of TCU and Baylor - yes you are more similar to those two than to Houston or Memphis, but that's not a good thing here. Small private schools like Tulane don't grow the brand, base, or value. Tulane has less of a hold on New Orleans than UH does of Houston.

The only way to change this is to win until you have enough fans for a 50k seat stadium, and even then you have to catch the powers that be at the right time.


The b12 is hurting because they swapped Texas a&m for TCU, and TCU is way ahead of Tulane athletically - imagine how adding Tulane would dilute the b12 further.


Hell, adding Tulane diluted the AAC if we are being honest. No one cares about hosting Tulane, I look at it as a game we will struggle to get people to show up for.


Take your AAU and shove it, I'd rather have an extra non conference game than have TU come to town.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...nvite-most

You are really showing your ass here. Conference realignment is not just about sports. And ADs don't make the decisions, the presidents do. Only reason we aren't in the BigXII right now is because of Louisville backing out, and there not being a good enough candidate to replace them. Tulane is still Tulane. We are in an even better position than we were when that article was written. So the question isn't if Tulane might get an add, it's is there a school like Louisville out there that would make a good pair to take with Tulane.

Stable conferences like the Pac 12 and Big10 have Northwesterns, Purdues, Cals, etc because conference runs deeper than sports. You have academic/research/resource/investment/political/business networks, agreements and compacts. A student at Indiana can access all of the academic resources at Purdue, for instance.

A conference that is nothing more than a sports league is the AAC-- inherently unstable, with everyone always looking for greener grass. Value add is more than just about sports. OU understands this, and it's why their prez has openly pushed for us.

I never discredited the value of being a good academic institution, just that the b12 doesn't need another. The b12 isn't full of dummy schools.

Being in texas is pretty valuable when it comes to expansion candidates, but it means nothing when the b12 has 4 other Texas schools.

The b12 has 4 schools at least that are around as good or better than Tulane academically.


Cinci and UCONN are going to the b12. Tulane probably will just quit playing sports like rice will when they see its no longer beneficial to the brand or the budget.

first Vcoog nobody is going to the big 12. Rice and Tulane will always be solid D-1 programs and will still be going long after you and I are gone.
as for academics four is a real reach. Texas is better than Tulane for sure. Kansas and TCU are good but a noch below Tulane. Baylor is respectable but the rest are dog meat.

(05-10-2016 10:42 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(05-10-2016 10:19 AM)First Mate Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 07:03 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 06:34 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  

(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.

"peers"...What do you mean by peers? Do you mean that because you're more geographically central to them?

Because that's just about the only similarity between an academically-centric private school of less than 10k in Louisiana and state public flagship behemoth schools in TX and OK.

Neither ECU nor Tulane are in similar situations to those schools.

Don't be dense. He's speaking about academic/institutional prestige. AAU status. And the BigXII isn't full of UT/OUs. Tulane has more in common with TCU, Baylor, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Texas Tech than it does with Memphis, East Carolina or U_Fs. There is a reason why there are only 3 AAU member institutions in the entire G5, but they are a strong plurality in the P5.

There's also the history. You can find game day programs of Tulane and Texas playing each other in big time football 100 years ago, 90 years ago, 70 years ago, 50 years ago, etc. Only other AAC team that can make a claim like that is Houston or Temple. The first sugar bowl was Tulane vs Temple.

Yeah, Tulane isn't an out and out favorite. But to dismiss them as having no chance and being a nobody is just showing off how little you know about college sports and what college presidents care about. Tulane is a blue blood, even if they've only just started emphasizing sports again for the first time in 20 years. We've been playing D1 football and baseball since before ECU even existed. P5 programs have that kind of pedigree. ECU doesn't.

How many P5 wins does Tulame have in the past 25 years? How many fans? Not many on either account. No one in the P5 wants to play at Tulane in front of 10 people who got free tickets. That looks like crap on TV too. Just like it does now when anyone plays at Tulane. No chance.

9 wins against p5 in the last 25 years. Just as many really close games that could have gone either way. Includes a 12-0 season before the BCS allowed non BCS conferences to play in BCS bowl games. Heck, we are the reason why they created the BCS buster rule. Should have played Tenn that year in the Sugar Bowl, ended up in Liberty v BYU. Would have been in the playoff under new system.

You just don't like Tulane. Its pretty obvious. 10 fans? Free tickets? Please. We have 15K season ticket holders alone in football. Georgia Tech and Duke were both hard sellouts. We set the record at the New Orleans bowl for attendance (60k+). 55k came to watch Texas v Tulane in the dome a few years back. We always pack the place for big name opponents. Not our fault no one in Nola wants to come see East Carolina or Southern Florida. Theres about 30k Tulane fans in New Orleans area who will show up for big games. Its just not a mid-major town. Hardcore group of fans is only about 10K (the rest of the season tickets are usually just a way casual fans stay connected/donate)-- but there are lots of casual fans who turn out when its worth the effort. We aren't Greenville, NC, this is New Orleans. There are better things to do on a fall Saturday than watch a football game against teams with cardinal directions in their names.

You really don't know jack about conference realignment, do you?

Lol for real? I think there are better things to do in pretty much every town in America then watch Tulane football. Get real. There's only 10K hardcores because the other 20K that show up to "big" games only do so if it doesn't conflict with LSU's game. Your defending argument is that fans show up to watch the good OPPOSING teams? So no one thinks enough of Tulane to watch when they aren't playing Texas? That just says a lot there, Big12/SEC culture, football IS the thing to do on fall Saturdays. That's the problem with Tulane, no one gives a s$^@# about your horrible football team. In Greenville, NC an ECU home football game IS the thing to do, we are proud of that, players are proud of it, coaches like it, almost every recruit comments on it. You should try it, you might up your win total to 4 or so.

Jimmies rustled.

Tulane's doing just fine. Great new coaches and enthusiasm. Opening day will be a hard sellout, again. We've been doing top level college athletics since before ECU existed. Hate all you want, facts are facts.

(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote:  It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.

With apologies to the late Douglas Adams:

This is obviously some strange usage of the word "peers" that I hadn't previously been aware of.

Tulane getting in any conference over Tulsa is a joke. Tulane has a slight edge on academics while Tulsa has a MAJOR edge in athletics. Both schools are in cities that are filled with state school supporters, so media market comparisons are just dumb.

They didn't put Tulsa in the SEC therefore this is all malarkey.

(05-10-2016 11:33 AM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  Jimmies rustled.

Tulane's doing just fine. Great new coaches and enthusiasm. Opening day will be a hard sellout, again. We've been doing top level college athletics since before ECU existed. Hate all you want, facts are facts.

Well I'm not sure that you've been "doing" top level anything but you definitely have a trophy case full of participation trophies.