It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
Not to be a downer on your enthusiasm, but if it goes to 5X16 conferences, we are pretty much all in. Maybe Tulsa or the U_Fs get left out, but theres enough room for pretty much all of us if the BigXII became the BigXVI
(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
"peers"...What do you mean by peers? Do you mean that because you're more geographically central to them?
Because that's just about the only similarity between an academically-centric private school of less than 10k in Louisiana and state public flagship behemoth schools in TX and OK.
Neither ECU nor Tulane are in similar situations to those schools.
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(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
"peers"...What do you mean by peers? Do you mean that because you're more geographically central to them?
Because that's just about the only similarity between an academically-centric private school of less than 10k in Louisiana and state public flagship behemoth schools in TX and OK.
Neither ECU nor Tulane are in similar situations to those schools.
Don't be dense. He's speaking about academic/institutional prestige. AAU status. And the BigXII isn't full of UT/OUs. Tulane has more in common with TCU, Baylor, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Texas Tech than it does with Memphis, East Carolina or U_Fs. There is a reason why there are only 3 AAU member institutions in the entire G5, but they are a strong plurality in the P5.
There's also the history. You can find game day programs of Tulane and Texas playing each other in big time football 100 years ago, 90 years ago, 70 years ago, 50 years ago, etc. Only other AAC team that can make a claim like that is Houston or Temple. The first sugar bowl was Tulane vs Temple.
Yeah, Tulane isn't an out and out favorite. But to dismiss them as having no chance and being a nobody is just showing off how little you know about college sports and what college presidents care about. Tulane is a blue blood, even if they've only just started emphasizing sports again for the first time in 20 years. We've been playing D1 football and baseball since before ECU even existed. P5 programs have that kind of pedigree. ECU doesn't.
(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
"peers"...What do you mean by peers? Do you mean that because you're more geographically central to them?
Because that's just about the only similarity between an academically-centric private school of less than 10k in Louisiana and state public flagship behemoth schools in TX and OK.
Neither ECU nor Tulane are in similar situations to those schools.
(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
"peers"...What do you mean by peers? Do you mean that because you're more geographically central to them?
Because that's just about the only similarity between an academically-centric private school of less than 10k in Louisiana and state public flagship behemoth schools in TX and OK.
Neither ECU nor Tulane are in similar situations to those schools.
They are, in everything but football and basketball right now.
You do realize LSU colors are what they are because of Tulane right? That Tulane vs LSU in football is still one of the most played rivalries in history, even with us not playing since 2007? That Tulane vs LSU in baseball still sets attendance records to this day?
College athletics didn't spring fully formed out of ESPN's head like Athena.
(05-09-2016 07:15 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote: They are, in everything but football and basketball right now.
You do realize LSU colors are what they are because of Tulane right? That Tulane vs LSU in football is still one of the most played rivalries in history, even with us not playing since 2007? That Tulane vs LSU in baseball still sets attendance records to this day?
College athletics didn't spring fully formed out of ESPN's head like Athena.
So basically they aren't on par in the only two sports anyone cares about.....
(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
(05-09-2016 07:15 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote: They are, in everything but football and basketball right now.
You do realize LSU colors are what they are because of Tulane right? That Tulane vs LSU in football is still one of the most played rivalries in history, even with us not playing since 2007? That Tulane vs LSU in baseball still sets attendance records to this day?
College athletics didn't spring fully formed out of ESPN's head like Athena.
So basically they aren't on par in the only two sports anyone cares about.....
If it were all about those two sports we'd still be in CUSA. It's not.
Yeah, I don't think we are a favorite for the Big XII if they only took 2. But I wouldn't be surprised either. The only people who would are people who don't know jack about conference expansion.
(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
"peers"...What do you mean by peers? Do you mean that because you're more geographically central to them?
Because that's just about the only similarity between an academically-centric private school of less than 10k in Louisiana and state public flagship behemoth schools in TX and OK.
Neither ECU nor Tulane are in similar situations to those schools.
Don't be dense. He's speaking about academic/institutional prestige. AAU status. And the BigXII isn't full of UT/OUs. Tulane has more in common with TCU, Baylor, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Texas Tech than it does with Memphis, East Carolina or U_Fs. There is a reason why there are only 3 AAU member institutions in the entire G5, but they are a strong plurality in the P5.
There's also the history. You can find game day programs of Tulane and Texas playing each other in big time football 100 years ago, 90 years ago, 70 years ago, 50 years ago, etc. Only other AAC team that can make a claim like that is Houston or Temple. The first sugar bowl was Tulane vs Temple.
Yeah, Tulane isn't an out and out favorite. But to dismiss them as having no chance and being a nobody is just showing off how little you know about college sports and what college presidents care about. Tulane is a blue blood, even if they've only just started emphasizing sports again for the first time in 20 years. We've been playing D1 football and baseball since before ECU even existed. P5 programs have that kind of pedigree. ECU doesn't.
It's 100% Tulane's fault that they aren't peers of sec or big 12 programs today. They decided to no longer be peers.
(05-09-2016 07:15 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote: They are, in everything but football and basketball right now.
You do realize LSU colors are what they are because of Tulane right? That Tulane vs LSU in football is still one of the most played rivalries in history, even with us not playing since 2007? That Tulane vs LSU in baseball still sets attendance records to this day?
College athletics didn't spring fully formed out of ESPN's head like Athena.
So basically they aren't on par in the only two sports anyone cares about.....
If it were all about those two sports we'd still be in CUSA. It's not.
Yeah, I don't think we are a favorite for the Big XII if they only took 2. But I wouldn't be surprised either. The only people who would are people who don't know jack about conference expansion.
But it was those same two sports that got you kicked out of the sec.
(05-09-2016 04:59 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: It certainly makes sense to me. Tulane is at the top of the list for Big 12 expansion, we always have been. Our peers are Texas, Oklahoma, and so on. We are more in line with those schools not ECU, South Florida and other AAC schools. I do not know how realistic this Big 16 is but Tulane to the Big 12 is about as realistic as it gets.
"peers"...What do you mean by peers? Do you mean that because you're more geographically central to them?
Because that's just about the only similarity between an academically-centric private school of less than 10k in Louisiana and state public flagship behemoth schools in TX and OK.
Neither ECU nor Tulane are in similar situations to those schools.
Don't be dense. He's speaking about academic/institutional prestige. AAU status. And the BigXII isn't full of UT/OUs. Tulane has more in common with TCU, Baylor, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Texas Tech than it does with Memphis, East Carolina or U_Fs. There is a reason why there are only 3 AAU member institutions in the entire G5, but they are a strong plurality in the P5.
There's also the history. You can find game day programs of Tulane and Texas playing each other in big time football 100 years ago, 90 years ago, 70 years ago, 50 years ago, etc. Only other AAC team that can make a claim like that is Houston or Temple. The first sugar bowl was Tulane vs Temple.
Yeah, Tulane isn't an out and out favorite. But to dismiss them as having no chance and being a nobody is just showing off how little you know about college sports and what college presidents care about. Tulane is a blue blood, even if they've only just started emphasizing sports again for the first time in 20 years. We've been playing D1 football and baseball since before ECU even existed. P5 programs have that kind of pedigree. ECU doesn't.
It's 100% Tulane's fault that they aren't peers of sec or big 12 programs today. They decided to no longer be peers.
Sure is our fault we left SEC. Unlike Georgia Tech who did it also we didn't have a geographic match for a conference at the time. Independence was popular though. All of us Metro conference schools were happy for a while... Truth is . Louisiana is not going to be left alone to LSU for p5. Every league likes the idea of New Orleans and a competitive Tulane. It will happen. As it also will for ECU. Your support will get you somewhere.
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