(04-14-2016 08:15 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: The perp could have claimed that God told him to do what he did. Criminals do that all the time. Does that mean that we should ban religion?
The perp wasn't transgendered.
Who has said anything about banning trangendered people? You don't make a good argument when you are forced to engage in such obviously false analogy. This is about the ordinance to address the requests/demands of TG people, not tg people themselves. Of course you know that, but it doesn't sell your story.
(04-14-2016 08:17 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote: ACTUALLY NO I'm not. You completely missed my point!!! I'm not saying transgendered will commit the crimes in most cases, I'm saying bad people will exploit gender neutral bathrooms to their advantage, that's what predators do.
Yep. TOM is the one being intellectually dishonest because he doesn't want to admit that 'what he wants' opens up these doors and that needs to be addressed.
(04-15-2016 09:21 AM)Fitbud Wrote: Yet another example of "small government" republicans passing laws as an attempt to prevent something that almost never happens.
Another false argument. It isn't 'small government' republicans who are demanding that the needs of the LBGT community be addressed here. Are you suggesting that there shouldn't be any rules whatsoever about whom uses what bathroom? Let's just take down all the men/women signs and let ALL people choose whichever bathroom they'd like to use... I mean if it's 'fair' for the transgendered, it should be fair for everyone else, right?
That won't cause any problems. /sarcasm
As I've repeatedly said, honest and decent and 'non-bigoted' people can disagree on 'which' bathroom is appropriate for transgendered people to use and that might even change as time passes... I'm not even sure there is 100% agreement within that community... but it is only the left engaging in this 'war' on trying to address the issue.
MOST Republicans aren't 'Small government Republicans' these days, but for those of us who are, we would be more than happy to let men continue to use men's restrooms and women, women's.... the question is, at what point does/should the law recognize a transgendered person as the 'previous' and 'current' gender? I've repeatedly expressed my opinion that they should use the bathroom that they 'present' themselves as... but that still means you have to choose one... and the truth is that there are many now who don't want to choose either. They want to be 'both', which is fine with me personally, but certainly creates a problem in fair application of our laws. Surely you wouldn't think it fair for someone to be able to pick and choose based on the situation, do you? I'm female because it makes my car insurance cheaper and male because it allows me to weigh more and still meet the physical requirements for something.
And don't tell me it shouldn't matter, unless you commonly share a bathroom (at the same time) with your sibling of the same gender.