(04-12-2016 10:28 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 10:17 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Cajuns beat their way into 2000 CWS by hosting a regional, and then going to No. One USC. Cajuns beat Carolina in three games, and finished third in the CWS. Having a great RPI provided the Cajuns the ability to host, and just two years ago the Cajuns were a national seed, came up one win short of CWS.

And I'm sure those are great selling points for your program that has gotten you a couple recruits that normally would have went to a more high profile team. Like I said positive feedback loop. You also have to realize that ULL is a lot closer to that ceiling I was talking about than a huge number of teams in D1 baseball.

When did this turn into a convo about who gets the best recruits? No **** the big name schools get better all around recruits. Good recruits don't make a "team" good. Coaching and players playing up to their fullest potential is what makes a team.

We were talking about the RPI being sufficient in judging how strong your team is. If we can't judge a team based on their winning% and their opponents winning% then what the **** are we gonna judge them on? Who has the most bowl trophies and best "recruits"?

The RPI only gets more accurate as the late season wears on. I've been following college baseball extremely closely for the last 25 years. Not just my Cajuns. And I can tell you without a doubt that the RPI is very accurate come season's end when determining what teams are best. With one caveat, sure they may be some flaws when you consider say #45 vs #55 team and that #55 team may feel like they get snubbed by not being invited. But when you compare #45 and #75, it's a world of difference in quality and consistency of a team.

The RPI formula is as close as we get to the utmost fair system in all of college sports.

(04-12-2016 06:24 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

When you go 2-2 against top 25 RPI teams in a week and drop 30 spots in that same week causes this fan to scratch his head.

Did you look at the difference in the actual RPI figure? It is usually very small and depending on how the teams around you finish for the week, can cause a "large" swing in the ranking.

(04-11-2016 01:00 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  RPI:
13 South Alabama
21 Coastal Carolina
23 Louisiana Lafayette
72 Troy
94 Louisiana Monroe
111 Texas Arlington
123 Arkansas State
132 Texas State
138 Georgia Southern
168 Little Rock
228 Georgia State
278 Appalachian State

D1Baseball Top 25:
25 South Alabama
RV Coastal Carolina
RV Louisiana Lafayette

USA Today:
24 South Alabama
27 Louisiana Lafayette
28 Coastal Carolina

Baseball America:
23 South Alabama

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/ncbwa

NCBWA
22 Louisiana Lafayette
29 South Alabama
RV Coastal Carolina

(04-12-2016 10:54 PM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 06:24 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

When you go 2-2 against top 25 RPI teams in a week and drop 30 spots in that same week causes this fan to scratch his head.

Did you look at the difference in the actual RPI figure? It is usually very small and depending on how the teams around you finish for the week, can cause a "large" swing in the ranking.

Did you just forget that you also played #288 Savannah State? Even though you beat them, it still was SIGNIFICANTLY bad game for your RPI. They are 9-24 on the season, which hurts your "Opponents Winning%" pretty badly, which is what led to your decline over 30 spots.

For anyone who doesn't fully understand RPI and how it works, try going to http://www.warrennolan.com or http://www.boydsworld.com. Boyd's World has some amazing data to sift through.

The differences between Texas State and Louisiana's RPI is really pretty clear. While I dont think we're 100 spots better if we're talking about how good a team is, our staff knows how to schedule for the RPI and we're also aided by an up year for the state of LA.

Texas State:
Played a bad team from a good conference 3x (Wash St.) That is really not good for RPI. They will end up with a low Win Pct but they are still probably a better than average team since they play and recruit in the Pac 12. Wash St's SOS only helps you half as much as their record (50% portion on your RPI formula)

They play Incarnate Word 3x who is killing their RPI with a terrible Win Pct and a poor OWP (UIW's SOS). UT is down (1 played, 1 scheduled). UTSA down (2x). TAMCC bad (2x). UTRGV bad. You've already played ULM and App State 3x (two worst records in conf).

The Cajuns will absorb the blow of playing ULM and App State soon, so that negates some of that difference.

But then look at the Cajuns schedule:
SHSU is over .500. La Tech, UNO, McNeese, NW State, Tulane all up this year compared to last few with good to great records. TCU, Texas Tech, Rice all powers this year. Sacred Heart is a good team in a weak conference. They are the ideal RPI candidate for non-conf weekend (solid record, but lower conference).

I dont doubt that the RPI formula favors types of scheduling, but Texas State has played a much worse schedule and in general, worse teams all season. It's not close. LA is in an up year for baseball, TX is relatively down at least for the teams that the Bobcats have played. That's a huge portion of each teams schedules

As of now Louisiana has the best RPI in the state....a step ahead of lsu:

20 Louisiana
21 lsu
53 Tulane
56 UNO
61 Southeast

And given the weather from LFT to NOLA, I have my doubts the UL -vs- UNO game tonight will be able to be played.

(04-13-2016 09:56 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  As of now Louisiana has the best RPI in the state....a step ahead of lsu:

20 Louisiana
21 lsu
53 Tulane
56 UNO
61 Southeast

And given the weather from LFT to NOLA, I have my doubts the UL -vs- UNO game tonight will be able to be played.

Right now USA is projected to host (before the RPI killers hit us) and they have LSU in our regional along with SELA and Alabama State. I would LOVE if we could somehow both host... It would be fun to see LSU have to go to The Tigue for a regional.

(04-13-2016 12:15 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 09:56 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  As of now Louisiana has the best RPI in the state....a step ahead of lsu:

20 Louisiana
21 lsu
53 Tulane
56 UNO
61 Southeast

And given the weather from LFT to NOLA, I have my doubts the UL -vs- UNO game tonight will be able to be played.

Right now USA is projected to host (before the RPI killers hit us) and they have LSU in our regional along with SELA and Alabama State. I would LOVE if we could somehow both host... It would be fun to see LSU have to go to The Tigue for a regional.

If, and although I'm very hopeful its still a big 'if', that we host, it would be real fireworks to have the purple pigs in the Tigue again for a regional. And we have history on this to back that up, lol.

I just hope we don't drop below 300..

(04-13-2016 12:15 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 09:56 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  As of now Louisiana has the best RPI in the state....a step ahead of lsu:

20 Louisiana
21 lsu
53 Tulane
56 UNO
61 Southeast

And given the weather from LFT to NOLA, I have my doubts the UL -vs- UNO game tonight will be able to be played.

Right now USA is projected to host (before the RPI killers hit us) and they have LSU in our regional along with SELA and Alabama State. I would LOVE if we could somehow both host... It would be fun to see LSU have to go to The Tigue for a regional.

The committee is not going to give the Belt two host spots. While the series in Mobile may not decide the regular season title, it could very well factor into which school hosts a regional.....with the obvious assumption that each school continues to win until they meet. In my opinion, the Cajuns would have to win the series against USA AND win the conference tournament to offset any advantage USA has for dominating the regular season.

(04-13-2016 01:06 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 12:15 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 09:56 AM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  As of now Louisiana has the best RPI in the state....a step ahead of lsu:

20 Louisiana
21 lsu
53 Tulane
56 UNO
61 Southeast

And given the weather from LFT to NOLA, I have my doubts the UL -vs- UNO game tonight will be able to be played.

Right now USA is projected to host (before the RPI killers hit us) and they have LSU in our regional along with SELA and Alabama State. I would LOVE if we could somehow both host... It would be fun to see LSU have to go to The Tigue for a regional.

The committee is not going to give the Belt two host spots. While the series in Mobile may not decide the regular season title, it could very well factor into which school hosts a regional.....with the obvious assumption that each school continues to win until they meet. In my opinion, the Cajuns would have to win the series against USA AND win the conference tournament to offset any advantage USA has for dominating the regular season.

Agreed. It would be a long shot to see UL host.

But that said, there is still that chance. Especially if they continue to come together and be the team that everyone thought they'd be in the pre-season.

(04-13-2016 12:57 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  I just hope we don't drop below 300..

Luckily we can't.

(04-13-2016 01:58 PM)bigCasu_ Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 12:57 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  I just hope we don't drop below 300..

Luckily we can't.

I should have known you would pick up on that!

I'm still not sure we won't find a way...

Coastal just beat #12 RPI CofC.

(04-13-2016 05:27 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  Coastal just beat #12 RPI CofC.

CofC isn't very good despite that RPI

(04-14-2016 02:17 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  CofC isn't very good despite that RPI

Do you say that because they've lost to GS a couple of times in midweek games?

CofC is pretty good this year. They may be inconsistent but most baseball teams are. They have a tough non-conference schedule and have beaten some highly rated teams. They've dropped a couple of questionable games too but that shouldn't make them "not very good".

(04-14-2016 02:17 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  CofC isn't very good despite that RPI

Yea, you are wrong.

CofC's RPI is about to take a hit playing Hofstra, James Madison and Towson over the next 3 weekends, regardless if they win or lose

(04-14-2016 12:04 PM)wcd35 Wrote:  CofC's RPI is about to take a hit playing Hofstra, James Madison and Towson over the next 3 weekends, regardless if they win or lose

I don't know about that. If they lose to those a few games to those high RPI teams then they may drop but if they win then that combined with their strong non-conference schedule shouldn't see them drop too much. You have to remember that other teams and conferences are playing similar high RPI teams.

Warren Nolan currently predicts they'll finish with an 11 RPI.