The NCAA adopted FBS Proposal 2015-79, which provides:

Quote:In bowl subdivision football, to specify that an institution that is scheduled to play a regular-season game in Hawaii may play its first permissible contest with outside
competition on the Saturday prior to the Thursday preceding Labor Day; further, to specify that if the institution's first opponent of the season is not a member institution located in Hawaii, the institution's first opponent
of the season may also play its first contest (game or scrimmage) with outside competition on the Saturday prior to the Thursday preceding Labor Day.

Translation: If an FBS team has a game scheduled at Hawai'i in a particular season, that team can start its season one Saturday earlier than the normal start to the FBS regular season. (The "further" part of the rule means that the opponent of the "exempted" team is also allowed to play that one-week-early game.)

Makes it easier for teams to fit a game at Hawai'i into their schedules, gives them the incentive of an extra bye week in a season when they play at Hawai'i, and gives Hawai'i an extra week to schedule a home game.

(04-13-2016 04:09 PM)Wedge Wrote:  The NCAA adopted FBS Proposal 2015-79, which provides:

Quote:In bowl subdivision football, to specify that an institution that is scheduled to play a regular-season game in Hawaii may play its first permissible contest with outside
competition on the Saturday prior to the Thursday preceding Labor Day; further, to specify that if the institution's first opponent of the season is not a member institution located in Hawaii, the institution's first opponent
of the season may also play its first contest (game or scrimmage) with outside competition on the Saturday prior to the Thursday preceding Labor Day.

Translation: If an FBS team has a game scheduled at Hawai'i in a particular season, that team can start its season one Saturday earlier than the normal start to the FBS regular season. (The "further" part of the rule means that the opponent of the "exempted" team is also allowed to play that one-week-early game.)

Makes it easier for teams to fit a game at Hawai'i into their schedules, gives them the incentive of an extra bye week in a season when they play at Hawai'i, and gives Hawai'i an extra week to schedule a home game.

The expansion to 12 has meant a lot of teams playing in Hawaii don't play the extra game.

(04-13-2016 04:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 04:09 PM)Wedge Wrote:  The NCAA adopted FBS Proposal 2015-79, which provides:

Quote:In bowl subdivision football, to specify that an institution that is scheduled to play a regular-season game in Hawaii may play its first permissible contest with outside
competition on the Saturday prior to the Thursday preceding Labor Day; further, to specify that if the institution's first opponent of the season is not a member institution located in Hawaii, the institution's first opponent
of the season may also play its first contest (game or scrimmage) with outside competition on the Saturday prior to the Thursday preceding Labor Day.

Translation: If an FBS team has a game scheduled at Hawai'i in a particular season, that team can start its season one Saturday earlier than the normal start to the FBS regular season. (The "further" part of the rule means that the opponent of the "exempted" team is also allowed to play that one-week-early game.)

Makes it easier for teams to fit a game at Hawai'i into their schedules, gives them the incentive of an extra bye week in a season when they play at Hawai'i, and gives Hawai'i an extra week to schedule a home game.

The expansion to 12 has meant a lot of teams playing in Hawaii don't play the extra game.

That's right. Teams have had 13 weeks, not including CCG week, to play the regular season and haven't wanted to play 13 consecutive weeks with no bye week. Now, in seasons when they play at Hawai'i, teams will be able to either play 13 games and still have a bye week, or play 12 and have 2 bye weeks.

Imagine playing 14 games (Hawai'i+conference title game+regular schedule) then 2-3 games in the CFP. That's like playing a full NFL season.

(04-13-2016 04:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Imagine playing 14 games (Hawai'i+conference title game+regular schedule) then 2-3 games in the CFP. That's like playing a full NFL season.

See BYU circa 1996. Think they finished 14-1.

And still shut out of the Spanish Bonanza Bowl.

Hmmm...Have to wonder if Hawaii gets some success from this if they may consider becoming Indy with BYU. I wonder if the MW teams would take advantage to have a 7th home game?

(04-13-2016 04:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 04:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Imagine playing 14 games (Hawai'i+conference title game+regular schedule) then 2-3 games in the CFP. That's like playing a full NFL season.

See BYU circa 1996. Think they finished 14-1.

Yep. I think BYU played 15 a couple times...maybe Fresno did it too...it's still possible for the 4 or 5 schools in the MWC who play at Hawaii. (Or Hawaii too) 13 regular season games plus MWC championship game plus bowl. Imagine when a USC or Oregon plays at Hawaii and goes 13-0, then wins PAC title game for 14-0, then the 2 playoff games: 16-0. That's actually possible now. Cheers!

(04-13-2016 05:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Hmmm...Have to wonder if Hawaii gets some success from this if they may consider becoming Indy with BYU. I wonder if the MW teams would take advantage to have a 7th home game?

What's stopping them now? I think at least Utah St, Colorado St, Fresno St and all had 13 regular season games recently...I think Hawaii does it every year don't they?
Cheers!

(04-13-2016 05:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Hmmm...Have to wonder if Hawaii gets some success from this if they may consider becoming Indy with BYU. I wonder if the MW teams would take advantage to have a 7th home game?

What's stopping them now? I think at least Utah St, Colorado St, Fresno St and all had 13 regular season games recently...I think Hawaii does it every year don't they?
Cheers!

No bye week if they take the Hawaii exemption. Especially now with the CCG. USU was the last have 13 games a year ago. Now nobody in the MW uses the exemption so they can get a bye week.

(04-13-2016 05:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Hmmm...Have to wonder if Hawaii gets some success from this if they may consider becoming Indy with BYU. I wonder if the MW teams would take advantage to have a 7th home game?

Hawaii has always talked about going Indy....they never pull the trigger for some reason though...my guess is their afraid the western schools they play every year won't schedule them if they try. Kind of like how the old gaurd MWC schools won't schedule BYU anymore.?...my only guess on why.
Cheers!

(04-13-2016 05:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Hmmm...Have to wonder if Hawaii gets some success from this if they may consider becoming Indy with BYU. I wonder if the MW teams would take advantage to have a 7th home game?

What's stopping them now? I think at least Utah St, Colorado St, Fresno St and all had 13 regular season games recently...I think Hawaii does it every year don't they?
Cheers!

No bye week if they take the Hawaii exemption. Especially now with the CCG. USU was the last have 13 games a year ago. Now nobody in the MW uses the exemption so they can get a bye week.

The rule change will allow all 4 teams that play at Hawaii from the MWC to play the extra game while keeping the bye week.

(04-13-2016 05:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Hmmm...Have to wonder if Hawaii gets some success from this if they may consider becoming Indy with BYU. I wonder if the MW teams would take advantage to have a 7th home game?

What's stopping them now? I think at least Utah St, Colorado St, Fresno St and all had 13 regular season games recently...I think Hawaii does it every year don't they?
Cheers!

No bye week if they take the Hawaii exemption. Especially now with the CCG. USU was the last have 13 games a year ago. Now nobody in the MW uses the exemption so they can get a bye week.

Oh ok...it used to be something they all did. Not just WAC/MWC teams but also the USC's Oregons etc. when Iowa played at Hawaii when I was a kid I remember the big deal that you get an extra home game for doing this. Well, Iowa was upset in Hawaii that year haha... But anyway, you play at Hawaii you ended up playing an extra home game OOC. Yeah, if this translation of the rule is correct, anyone who plays at Hawaii and doesn't schedule an extra OOC is nuts. Cheers!

We have to look out for Hawaii-West Oahu to be coming up. They seemed to be a test school at D2 right now as they are adding sports. Football could be one of them in the future. They might be a school that could go to D1, and play Hawaii in football if they do add football.

(04-13-2016 05:34 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  We have to look out for Hawaii-West Oahu to be coming up. They seemed to be a test school at D2 right now as they are adding sports. Football could be one of them in the future. They might be a school that could go to D1, and play Hawaii in football if they do add football.

We do have to look out for them David. We also have to look out for BYU-Hawaii football.
Cheers!

UA used to go out there. It was a lot of fun.

(04-13-2016 05:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Hmmm...Have to wonder if Hawaii gets some success from this if they may consider becoming Indy with BYU. I wonder if the MW teams would take advantage to have a 7th home game?

What's stopping them now? I think at least Utah St, Colorado St, Fresno St and all had 13 regular season games recently...I think Hawaii does it every year don't they?
Cheers!

No bye week if they take the Hawaii exemption. Especially now with the CCG. USU was the last have 13 games a year ago. Now nobody in the MW uses the exemption so they can get a bye week.

The rule change will allow all 4 teams that play at Hawaii from the MWC to play the extra game while keeping the bye week.

And that opens up the possibility of any of those teams moving any one of their games into the "early week" to get on TV with relatively little competition from other games.

Examples: SDSU plays at Hawai'i in odd-numbered years. They have 2017 games vs. Arizona State and Stanford, and a 2019 game at UCLA, that could be candidates to be moved into the early week at ESPN's request.

Fresno State also plays at Hawai'i in odd-numbered years. Fresno's 2017 game at Alabama could be moved to Saturday, August 26. That would be a game that would interest ESPN, and it would also allow Alabama to have a game under their belt before they play Florida State in Atlanta on September 2nd.

(04-13-2016 05:41 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Hmmm...Have to wonder if Hawaii gets some success from this if they may consider becoming Indy with BYU. I wonder if the MW teams would take advantage to have a 7th home game?

What's stopping them now? I think at least Utah St, Colorado St, Fresno St and all had 13 regular season games recently...I think Hawaii does it every year don't they?
Cheers!

No bye week if they take the Hawaii exemption. Especially now with the CCG. USU was the last have 13 games a year ago. Now nobody in the MW uses the exemption so they can get a bye week.

The rule change will allow all 4 teams that play at Hawaii from the MWC to play the extra game while keeping the bye week.

And that opens up the possibility of any of those teams moving any one of their games into the "early week" to get on TV with relatively little competition from other games.

Examples: SDSU plays at Hawai'i in odd-numbered years. They have 2017 games vs. Arizona State and Stanford, and a 2019 game at UCLA, that could be candidates to be moved into the early week at ESPN's request.

Fresno State also plays at Hawai'i in odd-numbered years. Fresno's 2017 game at Alabama could be moved to Saturday, August 26. That would be a game that would interest ESPN, and it would also allow Alabama to have a game under their belt before they play Florida State in Atlanta on September 2nd.

ESPN doesn't get first pick of MWC games. Those games are almost locks to be selected by CBS Sports. This really doesn't change anything for non-Boise MWC teams.

(04-13-2016 06:34 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:41 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  What's stopping them now? I think at least Utah St, Colorado St, Fresno St and all had 13 regular season games recently...I think Hawaii does it every year don't they?
Cheers!

No bye week if they take the Hawaii exemption. Especially now with the CCG. USU was the last have 13 games a year ago. Now nobody in the MW uses the exemption so they can get a bye week.

The rule change will allow all 4 teams that play at Hawaii from the MWC to play the extra game while keeping the bye week.

And that opens up the possibility of any of those teams moving any one of their games into the "early week" to get on TV with relatively little competition from other games.

Examples: SDSU plays at Hawai'i in odd-numbered years. They have 2017 games vs. Arizona State and Stanford, and a 2019 game at UCLA, that could be candidates to be moved into the early week at ESPN's request.

Fresno State also plays at Hawai'i in odd-numbered years. Fresno's 2017 game at Alabama could be moved to Saturday, August 26. That would be a game that would interest ESPN, and it would also allow Alabama to have a game under their belt before they play Florida State in Atlanta on September 2nd.

ESPN doesn't get first pick of MWC games. Those games are almost locks to be selected by CBS Sports. This really doesn't change anything for non-Boise MWC teams.

It totally changes things. In 2017, Fresno plays in Hawaii. Thus getting 13th game. Fresno's game at Alabama(so SEC contract) would be allowed to get moved up to August 26 and shown on ESPN or CBS even. Same goes for the other teams scheduled at Hawaii that year(along with Hawaii hosting a game that day).

(04-13-2016 05:41 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 05:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Hmmm...Have to wonder if Hawaii gets some success from this if they may consider becoming Indy with BYU. I wonder if the MW teams would take advantage to have a 7th home game?

What's stopping them now? I think at least Utah St, Colorado St, Fresno St and all had 13 regular season games recently...I think Hawaii does it every year don't they?
Cheers!

No bye week if they take the Hawaii exemption. Especially now with the CCG. USU was the last have 13 games a year ago. Now nobody in the MW uses the exemption so they can get a bye week.

The rule change will allow all 4 teams that play at Hawaii from the MWC to play the extra game while keeping the bye week.

And that opens up the possibility of any of those teams moving any one of their games into the "early week" to get on TV with relatively little competition from other games.

Examples: SDSU plays at Hawai'i in odd-numbered years. They have 2017 games vs. Arizona State and Stanford, and a 2019 game at UCLA, that could be candidates to be moved into the early week at ESPN's request.

Fresno State also plays at Hawai'i in odd-numbered years. Fresno's 2017 game at Alabama could be moved to Saturday, August 26. That would be a game that would interest ESPN, and it would also allow Alabama to have a game under their belt before they play Florida State in Atlanta on September 2nd.

Well then...expect the official announcement for those games any day now..if it can be done it most certainly will. Expect ESPN to announce a full slate of games for the last week of August 2016 featuring the schools who play at Hawaii this year...
Cheers!