(03-29-2016 12:45 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:48 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:00 AM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 10:57 PM)SDSU-Alum2003 Wrote:  San Diego State can actually deliver its #28 market, is a destination city and a recruiting hot bed.

The Aztecs will be in an even better position when the Chargers leave.

I doubt anyone wouldn't include SD State atop the wish list. But is SD State interested?

That's a fair point too. SDSU has fell through before

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Not really....it was their travel partner that fell through. MWC didn't give SDSU a sweetheart deal.

I have made the point before here...Boise has its deal. Air Force has pretty much said they want to be with New Mexico, Colorado State and Wyoming.

So go out and get UNLV and SDSU and move to 13/14.

UNLV will rid itself of being in a conference with Nevada. SDSU gets big time more exposure and better conference. and Texas recruiting. American gets more markets, more time zones and California recruiting.

Win/Win. And UTEP and Rice can finally get into the MWC and out of dying CUSA.

The travel partner thing still makes no sense for the western teams. It just saves them on a few trips a year. It is far more important to the rest of the league so they can play both teams over a few day stretch.

Boise backed out cause they got a better deal. SDSU didn't want to spend all that money on travel for such a small contract difference between the AAC and MWC.

(03-29-2016 12:45 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:48 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:00 AM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 10:57 PM)SDSU-Alum2003 Wrote:  San Diego State can actually deliver its #28 market, is a destination city and a recruiting hot bed.

The Aztecs will be in an even better position when the Chargers leave.

I doubt anyone wouldn't include SD State atop the wish list. But is SD State interested?

That's a fair point too. SDSU has fell through before

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Not really....it was their travel partner that fell through. MWC didn't give SDSU a sweetheart deal.

I have made the point before here...Boise has its deal. Air Force has pretty much said they want to be with New Mexico, Colorado State and Wyoming.

So go out and get UNLV and SDSU and move to 13/14.

UNLV will rid itself of being in a conference with Nevada. SDSU gets big time more exposure and better conference. and Texas recruiting. American gets more markets, more time zones and California recruiting.

Win/Win. And UTEP and Rice can finally get into the MWC and out of dying CUSA.

Even I know UNLV doesn't want to "rid itself" of being in a conference with Nevada. UNLV said over and over that Nevada getting into the MWC was one of the reasons why they wouldn't leave their conference to go to the AAC when those efforts were being made a few years ago. UNLV pushed very very hard to get Nevada into the MWC with them. You are correct about AF not wanting to leave UNM, CSU and WYyoming behind though. AAC fans don't understand the politics behind the front range schools relationships. KAFB in Albuquerque and up in Colorado there's..I digress...I won't even go there. There's just reasons why that won't happen. Cheers!

(03-29-2016 01:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 12:45 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:48 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:00 AM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 10:57 PM)SDSU-Alum2003 Wrote:  San Diego State can actually deliver its #28 market, is a destination city and a recruiting hot bed.

The Aztecs will be in an even better position when the Chargers leave.

I doubt anyone wouldn't include SD State atop the wish list. But is SD State interested?

That's a fair point too. SDSU has fell through before

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Not really....it was their travel partner that fell through. MWC didn't give SDSU a sweetheart deal.

I have made the point before here...Boise has its deal. Air Force has pretty much said they want to be with New Mexico, Colorado State and Wyoming.

So go out and get UNLV and SDSU and move to 13/14.

UNLV will rid itself of being in a conference with Nevada. SDSU gets big time more exposure and better conference. and Texas recruiting. American gets more markets, more time zones and California recruiting.

Win/Win. And UTEP and Rice can finally get into the MWC and out of dying CUSA.

Even I know UNLV doesn't want to "rid itself" of being in a conference with Nevada. UNLV said over and over that Nevada getting into the MWC was one of the reasons why they wouldn't leave their conference to go to the AAC when those efforts were being made a few years ago. UNLV pushed very very hard to get Nevada into the MWC with them. You are correct about AF not wanting to leave UNM, CSU and WYyoming behind though. AAC fans don't understand the politics behind the front range schools relationships. KAFB in Albuquerque and up in Colorado there's..I digress...I won't even go there. There's just reasons why that won't happen. Cheers!

That's why I think the real opportunity for the AAC is to take the front range schools as a block. At the very least, I think if you offer Air Force, New Mexico, and Colorado St as a group, you might have an actual shot at some success. That said, you must have a very short memory. UNLV flat out walked away from Nevada just a few years before and you'd better believe they will do it again if they perceive it to be in their best interests. A lot these unbreakable rivalries were broken just a few years ago. Hell, the whole MW conference was created when 5 schools secretly met and back stabbed the other 11 schools (many of those 11 are now conference mates). Its clear all this conference loyalty only goes so far. Real talk----If Texas and Texas A&M can walk away from one another---do you really think UNLV would never leave Nevada?

(03-29-2016 09:06 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 08:51 AM)PT_american Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 08:29 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 10:57 PM)SDSU-Alum2003 Wrote:  San Diego State can actually deliver its #28 market, is a destination city and a recruiting hot bed.

The Aztecs will be in an even better position when the Chargers leave.

Without Boise this is a non-starter. Remember last time?

So add New Mexico as a travel partner for SDSU. #1 School in a fast growing state and in a large city (Albuquerque) which is in line with how the conference is constructed. You get two very good basketball programs and SDSU is generally solid at football.

IMO, UNLV would be a better travel partner with SDSU...and has a basketball rep that could add value. New football stadium in the works and big market.

This.

I have no desire to be in a future conference with New Mexico. I would much rather be a travel partner with UNLV, BYU, Fresno State or Boise State.

(03-29-2016 09:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 06:10 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think NIU would be a smart add for the AAC. So would ODU, WKU and Marshall.

Western Ky JC will never be in the AAC

and they could beat you in both football and basketball!

(03-29-2016 07:05 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 06:10 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think NIU would be a smart add for the AAC. So would ODU, WKU and Marshall.

Western Ky JC will never be in the AAC

and they could beat you in both football and basketball!

But do they have high quality whores like Pitino can buy for recruits?

(03-29-2016 07:05 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 06:10 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think NIU would be a smart add for the AAC. So would ODU, WKU and Marshall.

Western Ky JC will never be in the AAC

and they could beat you in both football and basketball!

Why don't you cleanse with a coffee douche... and stop trying so hard to "stir the pot" and "drink coffee"?

(03-29-2016 07:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 07:05 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 06:10 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think NIU would be a smart add for the AAC. So would ODU, WKU and Marshall.

Western Ky JC will never be in the AAC

and they could beat you in both football and basketball!

But do they have high quality whores like Pitino can buy for recruits?

Some quality hookers Louisville hires

I think if we get in the 5 to 7 million range those mw schools would be willing to come here but right now not so much.

(03-29-2016 01:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 01:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 12:45 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:48 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:00 AM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  I doubt anyone wouldn't include SD State atop the wish list. But is SD State interested?

That's a fair point too. SDSU has fell through before

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Not really....it was their travel partner that fell through. MWC didn't give SDSU a sweetheart deal.

I have made the point before here...Boise has its deal. Air Force has pretty much said they want to be with New Mexico, Colorado State and Wyoming.

So go out and get UNLV and SDSU and move to 13/14.

UNLV will rid itself of being in a conference with Nevada. SDSU gets big time more exposure and better conference. and Texas recruiting. American gets more markets, more time zones and California recruiting.

Win/Win. And UTEP and Rice can finally get into the MWC and out of dying CUSA.

Even I know UNLV doesn't want to "rid itself" of being in a conference with Nevada. UNLV said over and over that Nevada getting into the MWC was one of the reasons why they wouldn't leave their conference to go to the AAC when those efforts were being made a few years ago. UNLV pushed very very hard to get Nevada into the MWC with them. You are correct about AF not wanting to leave UNM, CSU and WYyoming behind though. AAC fans don't understand the politics behind the front range schools relationships. KAFB in Albuquerque and up in Colorado there's..I digress...I won't even go there. There's just reasons why that won't happen. Cheers!

That's why I think the real opportunity for the AAC is to take the front range schools as a block. At the very least, I think if you offer Air Force, New Mexico, and Colorado St as a group, you might have an actual shot at some success. That said, you must have a very short memory. UNLV flat out walked away from Nevada just a few years before and you'd better believe they will do it again if they perceive it to be in their best interests. A lot these unbreakable rivalries were broken just a few years ago. Hell, the whole MW conference was created when 5 schools secretly met and back stabbed the other 11 schools (many of those 11 are now conference mates). Its clear all this conference loyalty only goes so far. Real talk----If Texas and Texas A&M can walk away from one another---do you really think UNLV would never leave Nevada?

I'm totally against adding for the sake of just adding. IF, who ever is under consideration I hope they bring something to the table so that this league could continue strengthen itself and finally get it's tv deal it deserves.

(03-29-2016 06:54 PM)SDSU-Alum2003 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:06 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 08:51 AM)PT_american Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 08:29 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 10:57 PM)SDSU-Alum2003 Wrote:  San Diego State can actually deliver its #28 market, is a destination city and a recruiting hot bed.

The Aztecs will be in an even better position when the Chargers leave.

Without Boise this is a non-starter. Remember last time?

So add New Mexico as a travel partner for SDSU. #1 School in a fast growing state and in a large city (Albuquerque) which is in line with how the conference is constructed. You get two very good basketball programs and SDSU is generally solid at football.

IMO, UNLV would be a better travel partner with SDSU...and has a basketball rep that could add value. New football stadium in the works and big market.

This.

I have no desire to be in a future conference with New Mexico. I would much rather be a travel partner with UNLV, BYU, Fresno State or Boise State.

How is SDSU a travel partner for Boise? You still have at least one flight to get there. Personally I say eff Boise under all circumstances.

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SDSU on ESPN in the nit

(03-29-2016 07:17 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 07:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 07:05 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 06:10 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think NIU would be a smart add for the AAC. So would ODU, WKU and Marshall.

Western Ky JC will never be in the AAC

and they could beat you in both football and basketball!

But do they have high quality whores like Pitino can buy for recruits?

Some quality hookers Louisville hires

The one on the right is worth a roll in the hay

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Although it is not the size of a Houston or Chicago, it is a decent sized city and the University of Memphis owns the Memphis market. When we go deep in the NCAA tournament, it is like a ghost town.

(03-29-2016 01:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 01:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 12:45 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:48 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:00 AM)HamiltonJames Wrote:  I doubt anyone wouldn't include SD State atop the wish list. But is SD State interested?

That's a fair point too. SDSU has fell through before

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Not really....it was their travel partner that fell through. MWC didn't give SDSU a sweetheart deal.

I have made the point before here...Boise has its deal. Air Force has pretty much said they want to be with New Mexico, Colorado State and Wyoming.

So go out and get UNLV and SDSU and move to 13/14.

UNLV will rid itself of being in a conference with Nevada. SDSU gets big time more exposure and better conference. and Texas recruiting. American gets more markets, more time zones and California recruiting.

Win/Win. And UTEP and Rice can finally get into the MWC and out of dying CUSA.

Even I know UNLV doesn't want to "rid itself" of being in a conference with Nevada. UNLV said over and over that Nevada getting into the MWC was one of the reasons why they wouldn't leave their conference to go to the AAC when those efforts were being made a few years ago. UNLV pushed very very hard to get Nevada into the MWC with them. You are correct about AF not wanting to leave UNM, CSU and WYyoming behind though. AAC fans don't understand the politics behind the front range schools relationships. KAFB in Albuquerque and up in Colorado there's..I digress...I won't even go there. There's just reasons why that won't happen. Cheers!

That's why I think the real opportunity for the AAC is to take the front range schools as a block. At the very least, I think if you offer Air Force, New Mexico, and Colorado St as a group, you might have an actual shot at some success. That said, you must have a very short memory. UNLV flat out walked away from Nevada just a few years before and you'd better believe they will do it again if they perceive it to be in their best interests. A lot these unbreakable rivalries were broken just a few years ago. Hell, the whole MW conference was created when 5 schools secretly met and back stabbed the other 11 schools (many of those 11 are now conference mates). Its clear all this conference loyalty only goes so far. Real talk----If Texas and Texas A&M can walk away from one another---do you really think UNLV would never leave Nevada?

Absolutely correct. KU and Mizzou parted ways. TAMU, UT. The Big10 broke rivalries when it expanded, so did the SEC, Utah BYU, the ACC and Tobacco road... UNLV wouldn't hesitate to leave if it thought the grass we greener. Same goes for the front range schools. AFA expressed interest in the AAC before and I don't recall that coinciding with AAC conversations with Wyoming or UNM. Show them the money and they'll not just walk, they'll run.

Its all about money. If the money is there, expand.

- Ambassador of Quan

(03-30-2016 08:23 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 01:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 01:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 12:45 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 10:48 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  That's a fair point too. SDSU has fell through before

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Not really....it was their travel partner that fell through. MWC didn't give SDSU a sweetheart deal.

I have made the point before here...Boise has its deal. Air Force has pretty much said they want to be with New Mexico, Colorado State and Wyoming.

So go out and get UNLV and SDSU and move to 13/14.

UNLV will rid itself of being in a conference with Nevada. SDSU gets big time more exposure and better conference. and Texas recruiting. American gets more markets, more time zones and California recruiting.

Win/Win. And UTEP and Rice can finally get into the MWC and out of dying CUSA.

Even I know UNLV doesn't want to "rid itself" of being in a conference with Nevada. UNLV said over and over that Nevada getting into the MWC was one of the reasons why they wouldn't leave their conference to go to the AAC when those efforts were being made a few years ago. UNLV pushed very very hard to get Nevada into the MWC with them. You are correct about AF not wanting to leave UNM, CSU and WYyoming behind though. AAC fans don't understand the politics behind the front range schools relationships. KAFB in Albuquerque and up in Colorado there's..I digress...I won't even go there. There's just reasons why that won't happen. Cheers!

That's why I think the real opportunity for the AAC is to take the front range schools as a block. At the very least, I think if you offer Air Force, New Mexico, and Colorado St as a group, you might have an actual shot at some success. That said, you must have a very short memory. UNLV flat out walked away from Nevada just a few years before and you'd better believe they will do it again if they perceive it to be in their best interests. A lot these unbreakable rivalries were broken just a few years ago. Hell, the whole MW conference was created when 5 schools secretly met and back stabbed the other 11 schools (many of those 11 are now conference mates). Its clear all this conference loyalty only goes so far. Real talk----If Texas and Texas A&M can walk away from one another---do you really think UNLV would never leave Nevada?

Absolutely correct. KU and Mizzou parted ways. TAMU, UT. The Big10 broke rivalries when it expanded, so did the SEC, Utah BYU, the ACC and Tobacco road... UNLV wouldn't hesitate to leave if it thought the grass we greener. Same goes for the front range schools. AFA expressed interest in the AAC before and I don't recall that coinciding with AAC conversations with Wyoming or UNM. Show them the money and they'll not just walk, they'll run.

Its all about money. If the money is there, expand.

- Ambassador of Quan

Air Force turned down the Big 12 a few years ago. I'm sure you know what your talking about and I don't regarding the front range schools though. Cheers!

(03-30-2016 10:26 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 08:23 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 01:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 01:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 12:45 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Not really....it was their travel partner that fell through. MWC didn't give SDSU a sweetheart deal.

I have made the point before here...Boise has its deal. Air Force has pretty much said they want to be with New Mexico, Colorado State and Wyoming.

So go out and get UNLV and SDSU and move to 13/14.

UNLV will rid itself of being in a conference with Nevada. SDSU gets big time more exposure and better conference. and Texas recruiting. American gets more markets, more time zones and California recruiting.

Win/Win. And UTEP and Rice can finally get into the MWC and out of dying CUSA.

Even I know UNLV doesn't want to "rid itself" of being in a conference with Nevada. UNLV said over and over that Nevada getting into the MWC was one of the reasons why they wouldn't leave their conference to go to the AAC when those efforts were being made a few years ago. UNLV pushed very very hard to get Nevada into the MWC with them. You are correct about AF not wanting to leave UNM, CSU and WYyoming behind though. AAC fans don't understand the politics behind the front range schools relationships. KAFB in Albuquerque and up in Colorado there's..I digress...I won't even go there. There's just reasons why that won't happen. Cheers!

That's why I think the real opportunity for the AAC is to take the front range schools as a block. At the very least, I think if you offer Air Force, New Mexico, and Colorado St as a group, you might have an actual shot at some success. That said, you must have a very short memory. UNLV flat out walked away from Nevada just a few years before and you'd better believe they will do it again if they perceive it to be in their best interests. A lot these unbreakable rivalries were broken just a few years ago. Hell, the whole MW conference was created when 5 schools secretly met and back stabbed the other 11 schools (many of those 11 are now conference mates). Its clear all this conference loyalty only goes so far. Real talk----If Texas and Texas A&M can walk away from one another---do you really think UNLV would never leave Nevada?

Absolutely correct. KU and Mizzou parted ways. TAMU, UT. The Big10 broke rivalries when it expanded, so did the SEC, Utah BYU, the ACC and Tobacco road... UNLV wouldn't hesitate to leave if it thought the grass we greener. Same goes for the front range schools. AFA expressed interest in the AAC before and I don't recall that coinciding with AAC conversations with Wyoming or UNM. Show them the money and they'll not just walk, they'll run.

Its all about money. If the money is there, expand.

- Ambassador of Quan

Air Force turned down the Big 12 a few years ago. I'm sure you know what your talking about and I don't regarding the front range schools though. Cheers!

So AirForce turned down $25mm a year and massive exposure, come on.

(03-29-2016 07:05 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 06:10 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think NIU would be a smart add for the AAC. So would ODU, WKU and Marshall.

Western Ky JC will never be in the AAC

and they could beat you in both football and basketball!

As much as I would love to be in the AAC, it won't happen. Our athletics are one of the best in the G5, with all our athletics programs competing for conference championships each year. Our facilities are really really good. For on the field performance, there are few better adds than WKU for football and basketball.

However, our attendance is too low, budget too small, and academics too poor. We would be an outlier in the AAC in off the field metrics, even though we would be extremely competitive in the AAC from a pure performance stand point.

(03-30-2016 12:51 PM)SigNuTopper Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 07:05 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 09:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-28-2016 06:10 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think NIU would be a smart add for the AAC. So would ODU, WKU and Marshall.

Western Ky JC will never be in the AAC

and they could beat you in both football and basketball!

As much as I would love to be in the AAC, it won't happen. Our athletics are one of the best in the G5, with all our athletics programs competing for conference championships each year. Our facilities are really really good. For on the field performance, there are few better adds than WKU for football and basketball.

However, our attendance is too low, budget too small, and academics too poor. We would be an outlier in the AAC in off the field metrics, even though we would be extremely competitive in the AAC from a pure performance stand point.

Your market is the biggest obstacle.

(03-30-2016 10:42 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 10:26 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-30-2016 08:23 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 01:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-29-2016 01:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Even I know UNLV doesn't want to "rid itself" of being in a conference with Nevada. UNLV said over and over that Nevada getting into the MWC was one of the reasons why they wouldn't leave their conference to go to the AAC when those efforts were being made a few years ago. UNLV pushed very very hard to get Nevada into the MWC with them. You are correct about AF not wanting to leave UNM, CSU and WYyoming behind though. AAC fans don't understand the politics behind the front range schools relationships. KAFB in Albuquerque and up in Colorado there's..I digress...I won't even go there. There's just reasons why that won't happen. Cheers!

That's why I think the real opportunity for the AAC is to take the front range schools as a block. At the very least, I think if you offer Air Force, New Mexico, and Colorado St as a group, you might have an actual shot at some success. That said, you must have a very short memory. UNLV flat out walked away from Nevada just a few years before and you'd better believe they will do it again if they perceive it to be in their best interests. A lot these unbreakable rivalries were broken just a few years ago. Hell, the whole MW conference was created when 5 schools secretly met and back stabbed the other 11 schools (many of those 11 are now conference mates). Its clear all this conference loyalty only goes so far. Real talk----If Texas and Texas A&M can walk away from one another---do you really think UNLV would never leave Nevada?

Absolutely correct. KU and Mizzou parted ways. TAMU, UT. The Big10 broke rivalries when it expanded, so did the SEC, Utah BYU, the ACC and Tobacco road... UNLV wouldn't hesitate to leave if it thought the grass we greener. Same goes for the front range schools. AFA expressed interest in the AAC before and I don't recall that coinciding with AAC conversations with Wyoming or UNM. Show them the money and they'll not just walk, they'll run.

Its all about money. If the money is there, expand.

- Ambassador of Quan

Air Force turned down the Big 12 a few years ago. I'm sure you know what your talking about and I don't regarding the front range schools though. Cheers!

So AirForce turned down $25mm a year and massive exposure, come on.

Yes.
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