TUL$A will make the Sweet 16 and bail the rest of you out. You're welcome!

(03-15-2016 12:25 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Shared evenly

Not entirely true. To the extent the Syracuse, Louisville et al units are being used as part of the exit fee, then the lion's share of those units are going to Cincy, UConn and USF.

Do you think some conferences think our unit is large?

(03-15-2016 03:58 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 12:25 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Shared evenly

Not entirely true. To the extent the Syracuse, Louisville et al units are being used as part of the exit fee, then the lion's share of those units are going to Cincy, UConn and USF.

OK I wasn't comparing past versus current

(03-15-2016 03:58 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 12:25 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Shared evenly

Not entirely true. To the extent the Syracuse, Louisville et al units are being used as part of the exit fee, then the lion's share of those units are going to Cincy, UConn and USF.

Quantify lion's share

Darn socialism. You should keep what you earn.

(03-15-2016 09:52 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Darn socialism. You should keep what you earn.

It stays in conference. We are not subsidizing the 1 bid leagues.

(03-15-2016 10:18 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-15-2016 09:52 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Darn socialism. You should keep what you earn.

It stays in conference. We are not subsidizing the 1 bid leagues.

Make it, take it, in my opinion.

Funny, but the U.S. military and the military academies are about as socialist as one can get. Everything from subsidized housing to single-payer healthcare are at work.

(03-15-2016 10:46 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Funny, but the U.S. military and the military academies are about as socialist as one can get. Everything from subsidized housing to single-payer healthcare are at work.

OK.

(03-15-2016 10:46 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Funny, but the U.S. military and the military academies are about as socialist as one can get. Everything from subsidized housing to single-payer healthcare are at work.

Sorry, but there is a difference between an entitlement we are born into and an "earned benefit". In the military they earn their benefits by risking their lives. An earned benefit should never be questioned or compared. IMO

(03-14-2016 02:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  First round or "play in" games do count as a unit.

AAC needs to get about 8-10 units this year after the down year last year with only 3 units.

Let's say Tulsa wins play in game a and wins round of 64, that's 3 units.

Lets say 2 out of 3 other teams win a game, that would be 5 more units, so a total of 8 units.

But let's say UConn gets hot and makes elite 8. Now we'd be looking at at least 10 units probably.

The play in game counts as a unit but the play in team don't get to double dip. They don't get a unit for the round of 64. So Tulsa winning the play in game and winning the round of 64 will only get 2 units as if they didn't have a play in game.

(03-14-2016 11:07 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  American Units
2010 - 16
2011 - 22
2012 - 23
2013 - 19
2014 - 11
2015 - 3

Units are paid out over six years. This year, we lose 16 units from 2010 and gain 4+ units depending on how many games we win.

Units are worth about $260K. Last year, we got $24.4M from the NCAA. This year, we should get about $3M less.

The Louisville/Syracuse units all drop off by 2019.

EDIT: Counted units wrong in 2013 and 2014. Forgot Final Four games.

If units are worth $260,000....the math does not add up...

(03-16-2016 08:53 AM)uchoops Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 11:07 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  American Units
2010 - 16
2011 - 22
2012 - 23
2013 - 19
2014 - 11
2015 - 3

Units are paid out over six years. This year, we lose 16 units from 2010 and gain 4+ units depending on how many games we win.

Units are worth about $260K. Last year, we got $24.4M from the NCAA. This year, we should get about $3M less.

The Louisville/Syracuse units all drop off by 2019.

EDIT: Counted units wrong in 2013 and 2014. Forgot Final Four games.

If units are worth $260,000....the math does not add up...

They're worth $260,000, or whatever the number is that year (it grows) per year for 6 years. So if these numbers are right, you guys are collecting for 84 units this year. Peg each unit at $250,000 and that's $21M.

I don't know if OP is counting units earned by C7 schools--the pre-nup says those came with us, from what I read.

I think OP's count includes Louisville, Syracuse, Pitt, Notre DAme, West Virginia units. I think he's right about that, but someone somewhere suggested they go into the REalignment Reserve Adjustment Fund thing, which mostly goes to UConn, UC and USF. I don't know about that.

(ACtually, Notre Dame's credits may have gone with them, since they were one of the three groups in the pre-nup. Shrug.)

Looking at the 2010 tournament, it looks like OP is counting the C7 credits in his totals. Pretty sure that those checks are being forwarded from the AAC offices in Providence to BE offices in NYC.

(03-14-2016 12:38 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UC and UConn get an extra share due to being the cool kids.

(03-16-2016 02:10 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 02:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  First round or "play in" games do count as a unit.

AAC needs to get about 8-10 units this year after the down year last year with only 3 units.

Let's say Tulsa wins play in game a and wins round of 64, that's 3 units.

Lets say 2 out of 3 other teams win a game, that would be 5 more units, so a total of 8 units.

But let's say UConn gets hot and makes elite 8. Now we'd be looking at at least 10 units probably.

The play in game counts as a unit but the play in team don't get to double dip. They don't get a unit for the round of 64. So Tulsa winning the play in game and winning the round of 64 will only get 2 units as if they didn't have a play in game.

I think you are wrong:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...s/6534223/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/...caa-money/

(03-16-2016 02:10 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 02:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  First round or "play in" games do count as a unit.

AAC needs to get about 8-10 units this year after the down year last year with only 3 units.

Let's say Tulsa wins play in game a and wins round of 64, that's 3 units.

Lets say 2 out of 3 other teams win a game, that would be 5 more units, so a total of 8 units.

But let's say UConn gets hot and makes elite 8. Now we'd be looking at at least 10 units probably.

The play in game counts as a unit but the play in team don't get to double dip. They don't get a unit for the round of 64. So Tulsa winning the play in game and winning the round of 64 will only get 2 units as if they didn't have a play in game.

Where did you hear this from. Every NCAA Tournament game played in is absolutely a credit. This is not "double dipping". It doesn't matter if it was a first four game or not. Every single game played in is a credit.

(03-16-2016 09:27 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 02:10 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 02:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  First round or "play in" games do count as a unit.

AAC needs to get about 8-10 units this year after the down year last year with only 3 units.

Let's say Tulsa wins play in game a and wins round of 64, that's 3 units.

Lets say 2 out of 3 other teams win a game, that would be 5 more units, so a total of 8 units.

But let's say UConn gets hot and makes elite 8. Now we'd be looking at at least 10 units probably.

The play in game counts as a unit but the play in team don't get to double dip. They don't get a unit for the round of 64. So Tulsa winning the play in game and winning the round of 64 will only get 2 units as if they didn't have a play in game.

Where did you hear this from. Every NCAA Tournament game played in is absolutely a credit. This is not "double dipping". It doesn't matter if it was a first four game or not. Every single game played in is a credit.

Winning the play-in game used to not get you an extra unit. That changed at some point. Read the USA today article, CAA commissioner says

Quote:"There was not an extra unit attached to winning it," Yeager said. "I think people did look at it as a negative deal and complained about it. That's not the case anymore."

(03-16-2016 09:31 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 09:27 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 02:10 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 02:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  First round or "play in" games do count as a unit.

AAC needs to get about 8-10 units this year after the down year last year with only 3 units.

Let's say Tulsa wins play in game a and wins round of 64, that's 3 units.

Lets say 2 out of 3 other teams win a game, that would be 5 more units, so a total of 8 units.

But let's say UConn gets hot and makes elite 8. Now we'd be looking at at least 10 units probably.

The play in game counts as a unit but the play in team don't get to double dip. They don't get a unit for the round of 64. So Tulsa winning the play in game and winning the round of 64 will only get 2 units as if they didn't have a play in game.

Where did you hear this from. Every NCAA Tournament game played in is absolutely a credit. This is not "double dipping". It doesn't matter if it was a first four game or not. Every single game played in is a credit.

Winning the play-in game used to not get you an extra unit. That changed at some point. Read the USA today article, CAA commissioner says

Quote:"There was not an extra unit attached to winning it," Yeager said. "I think people did look at it as a negative deal and complained about it. That's not the case anymore."

I know that. Perhaps he was thinking of the old system where the 1 play in game did not equal a credit.

(03-16-2016 09:46 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 09:31 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 09:27 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 02:10 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-14-2016 02:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  First round or "play in" games do count as a unit.

AAC needs to get about 8-10 units this year after the down year last year with only 3 units.

Let's say Tulsa wins play in game a and wins round of 64, that's 3 units.

Lets say 2 out of 3 other teams win a game, that would be 5 more units, so a total of 8 units.

But let's say UConn gets hot and makes elite 8. Now we'd be looking at at least 10 units probably.

The play in game counts as a unit but the play in team don't get to double dip. They don't get a unit for the round of 64. So Tulsa winning the play in game and winning the round of 64 will only get 2 units as if they didn't have a play in game.

Where did you hear this from. Every NCAA Tournament game played in is absolutely a credit. This is not "double dipping". It doesn't matter if it was a first four game or not. Every single game played in is a credit.

Winning the play-in game used to not get you an extra unit. That changed at some point. Read the USA today article, CAA commissioner says

Quote:"There was not an extra unit attached to winning it," Yeager said. "I think people did look at it as a negative deal and complained about it. That's not the case anymore."

I know that. Perhaps he was thinking of the old system where the 1 play in game did not equal a credit.

Well, you asked "Where did you hear this from", which sounds like he was saying some crazypants whackjob idea. I pointed out where it came from--the past. Until I read the article, I thought the same thing he did, that winning the play-in game didn't get you an extra credit.