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Mempho Brendo · 03-03-2016 11:18 PM

Are dropping them if Pastner is retained. They were freaking honored on the court this year for thier donations and bbal/ball tickets. Rank very high amongst top boosters. They are done with it. Very telling.

~~Penny Lane~~ · 03-03-2016 11:22 PM

I was 34 years season ticket holder and stopped mine 2015 season. Top 10% in lifetime giving. When TSF finally called me, I told them when Pastner was gone I would consider coming back. Don't like their reseating criteria.

Mempho Brendo · 03-03-2016 11:29 PM

They feel the same way. Moms having knee replacement on fball reseating date. Alnutt called dad back and said he would have earlier pre pick before the 15th. He is very skeptical.....no call equals the end of any donations or season tixs.

Mempho Brendo · 03-03-2016 11:33 PM

Folks are in the top 50 of lifetime giving.

covingtontiger · 03-04-2016 08:36 AM

This will be played out many times by May, if Pastner is retained. I don't know whether the powers that be don't believe it, or just don't care. I could see this season's average of 6,000 in attendance dropping to 3 or 4 thousand by next season.

This can be a turning point for Tiger sports. Let's see which way the die is cast.

Hoots · 03-04-2016 08:49 AM

Hard to get a handle on the whole situation. Josh will be fired, they're keeping him, firing him, keeping him, confirmed, not confirmed, this and that back and forth. Wow.

The financial stranglehold he has with his contract is huge, but it's also hard to dismiss the feelings of fans such as those mentioned here who've been big supporters for many years deciding to not return if Josh comes back.

When the final buzzer sounds on the season, it's gonna be very, very interesting watching this play out.

fsquid · 03-04-2016 09:08 AM

It's almost like they are playing a game of chicken.

covingtontiger · 03-04-2016 09:13 AM

OK, I am a business owner. Let's look at this from a business point of view.

Pastner has taken our business (Tiger basketball) from nearly selling out the Forum (18, 000 seats) to the current 11, 000 tickets sold. That is roughly a loss of 1/3 of our product sales. The future promises the loss of another considerable chunk of sales if this manager is retained.

As a business owner, I have a option to give this non-performing manager a golden handshake, but it is costly. What do I do?

From a purely business point of view, there is only one choice....get rid of this guy before he runs our business in the ground. What I can't fathom is why business people like Brad Martin don't see this basic fact. All I can picture is that they are letting personal friendship cloud their business judgement.

Smith · 03-04-2016 09:13 AM

How much are they willing to put up for the buy out?

TiggerFan · 03-04-2016 09:24 AM

(03-04-2016 08:36 AM)covingtontiger Wrote: This will be played out many times by May, if Pastner is retained. I don't know whether the powers that be don't believe it, or just don't care. I could see this season's average of 6,000 in attendance dropping to 3 or 4 thousand by next season.

This can be a turning point for Tiger sports. Let's see which way the die is cast.

Next season won't take them by surprise. Schools, clubs, organizations out the whahoo will be getting comps from game 1. They might even spin it as fans coming back in droves to justify keeping him the following year. If $10 million isn't there (and it is not) neither is $8 million.

Mempho Brendo · 03-04-2016 09:30 AM

(03-04-2016 09:13 AM)Smith Wrote: How much are they willing to put up for the buy out?

Not a damn dime. They've done their part for 45 years. They didn't write up nor sign the ridiculous contract.

TigersRuleAll · 03-04-2016 09:34 AM

(03-04-2016 09:08 AM)fsquid Wrote: It's almost like they are playing a game of chicken.

That's my theory. Pastner wants out (he wanted out last year)....does he risk staying here for what's sure to be a disaster and probably end his chances at another gig or come to the negotiating table and accept a buyout. I think the worry is that he's so completely delusional that he really believes next year is going to be a lot better.

GermantownTiger · 03-04-2016 11:40 AM

At this point from a purely non-lawyerly business perspective, since the Ambassadors are already locked into the "contract" through 2020, it seems to me we could find a solid coach who'd be willing to work cheap ($250,000 range) for the next 4 years with some hefty backloaded performance bonuses beginning in Year 5. This would allow us to fire JP immediately and offer some hope to current players/future recruits that we're determined to turn this shitestorm of a program around.

If things remain as they are currently, we're screwed.

fsquid · 03-04-2016 11:41 AM

I have a feeling that a cheap hire would get the same outrage

EdmondTiger · 03-04-2016 11:45 AM

Outside of the massive contract obligations or his APR and graduation rates, can anyone give me 203 solid basketball reasons Pastner should remain the coach?

RekeHavoc · 03-04-2016 11:51 AM

(03-04-2016 11:45 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote: Outside of the massive contract obligations or his APR and graduation rates, can anyone give me 203 solid basketball reasons Pastner should remain the coach?

Outside of those, I can't even come up with one.

bluebacker · 03-04-2016 11:52 AM

(03-04-2016 09:13 AM)Smith Wrote: How much are they willing to put up for the buy out?

Uncalled for. This is a Richard post.

EdmondTiger · 03-04-2016 12:04 PM

(03-04-2016 11:51 AM)RekeHavoc Wrote:
(03-04-2016 11:45 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote: Outside of the massive contract obligations or his APR and graduation rates, can anyone give me 203 solid basketball reasons Pastner should remain the coach?

Outside of those, I can't even come up with one.

There are still some Pastner supporters, but I've never heard them give any basketball reasons why he should be retained.

dgpro · 03-04-2016 12:10 PM

Can't even say graduation rates either because that is god awful. Only 4 guys have graduated with the program as 4-year players.

**450bench** · 03-04-2016 12:11 PM

(03-03-2016 11:22 PM)Penny Lane Wrote: I was 34 years season ticket holder and stopped mine 2015 season. Top 10% in lifetime giving. When TSF finally called me, I told them when Pastner was gone I would consider coming back.

Ditto for my family but we are top 25% not 10%. We had our tickets for 41 years.

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