The big 12 will have a network soon. If they are concerned about growth and remaining relevant they will at least

(02-29-2016 10:38 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 10:21 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-28-2016 10:25 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(02-28-2016 04:31 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The amount of revenue the cash cow Chicago market would bring the Big 12 in advertising would be astronomical. That alone keeps NIU in the mix.

This. Is. Only. True. If. They. Have. A. Network.

They don't.

+1...AND if that network is only able to be accessed thru a regional cable provider.

If the network is able to have a subscriber using an App without a cable provider then NIU being in the Chicago TV market is worthless.

Which as we all know, is probably the wave of the future.

Hope so....I just have fairly basic U-Verse 200 and we as a family probably have interest in maybe 25% of the channels. And I love Sports but I have LHN the Longhorn Network for the love of gawd.....

Is the Big 12 even looking to add a network?

I haven't seen anything about the golden goose Chicago market anywhere but here and a random article that pops up every two years or so.

Being near Chicago doesn't mean anything (whether Chicago even knows if NIU exists or care is another hurdle) if they aren't looking to add a network and I haven't seen anything that shows that's the route they are going. The B1G Network has been out for over 8 years, networks aren't new anymore, there has to be a legitimate reason that the Big XII hasn't gone the route of a network. I would imagine people cutting the cord and downsizing from cable would have something to do with it. It seems to me there isn't a market for it and if Chicago/NIU were some sort of saviors to creating a network I'm sure there would be more chatter about it outside of this forum.

(02-29-2016 10:57 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The big 12 will have a network soon. If they are concerned about growth and remaining relevant they will at least

See, you're purposefully using the wrong word now. "Will" should be "should." It's not like it's announced. And "should" is a bad choice too, since cable subscribers are fleeing and that model is dying.

(02-29-2016 10:21 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-28-2016 10:25 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(02-28-2016 04:31 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The amount of revenue the cash cow Chicago market would bring the Big 12 in advertising would be astronomical. That alone keeps NIU in the mix.

This. Is. Only. True. If. They. Have. A. Network.

They don't.

+1...AND if that network is only able to be accessed thru a regional cable provider.

If the network is able to have a subscriber using an App without a cable provider then NIU being in the Chicago TV market is worthless.

The cable model is dying. THANK YOU WORLD! The Chicago market is such a red herring when it comes to NIU.

(02-29-2016 10:57 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The big 12 will have a network soon. If they are concerned about growth and remaining relevant they will at least

Wakey wakey.
Seriously MD you need to quit this dream. Texas is not giving up its Longhorn Network, and the rest of the league has yet to make the commitment, but more importantly, NIU is unable to help any such fictitious network get established in what is a pro sports market. So it's not going to happen and the level of Big XII / Huskie interest is not mutual.

(02-29-2016 12:58 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 10:57 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The big 12 will have a network soon. If they are concerned about growth and remaining relevant they will at least

Wakey wakey.
Seriously MD you need to quit this dream. Texas is not giving up its Longhorn Network, and the rest of the league has yet to make the commitment, but more importantly, NIU is unable to help any such fictitious network get established in what is a pro sports market. So it's not going to happen and the level of Big XII / Huskie interest is not mutual.

The Big 12 does not need the chicago area, it is a pipe dream. We are so far from even being at a level of Iowa St, give it up. Lets be as good as we can and put ourselves in a position to take advantage of a situation that makes sense for us. Who know it could be a combo of MAC and AAC.

(02-29-2016 12:58 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 10:57 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The big 12 will have a network soon. If they are concerned about growth and remaining relevant they will at least

Wakey wakey.
Seriously MD you need to quit this dream. Texas is not giving up its Longhorn Network, and the rest of the league has yet to make the commitment, but more importantly, NIU is unable to help any such fictitious network get established in what is a pro sports market. So it's not going to happen and the level of Big XII / Huskie interest is not mutual.

Eh the number of college football fans in the Chicago TV market isn't something to brush off that much. It is something but only with a TV network that is distributed regionally.

On top of that most Pro sports fans in Chicagoland are going to pay for the extra sports channels, even if they only show college ball.

This Big12 talk is like trying to get a date with Cindy Crawford and telling all my friends about it all the time. She is not going to date me or will ever call me. Let us move on, please.

(02-29-2016 02:55 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 12:58 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 10:57 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The big 12 will have a network soon. If they are concerned about growth and remaining relevant they will at least

Wakey wakey.
Seriously MD you need to quit this dream. Texas is not giving up its Longhorn Network, and the rest of the league has yet to make the commitment, but more importantly, NIU is unable to help any such fictitious network get established in what is a pro sports market. So it's not going to happen and the level of Big XII / Huskie interest is not mutual.

Eh the number of college football fans in the Chicago TV market isn't something to brush off that much. It is something but only with a TV network that is distributed regionally.

On top of that most Pro sports fans in Chicagoland are going to pay for the extra sports channels, even if they only show college ball.

And if you asked Chicagoans what their favorite team/who they follow the most it would be ND or some B10 team for about 95% of them. And favorite conference would be B10 for about the same.

It may say "college football fans" but seems the high % have a team(s) they specifically follow.

And the big thing about the TV market is it doesn't even matter what the fans prefer, it is just about number of TV sets that have your product/advertisers. And obviously the Chicago market would be a gold mine for the Big 12

The current major-corporate sponsors of the B12 would enjoy the addition of the Chicago market, even prior to the assumed B12 Network launch. There are brand exposure opportunities outside of TV that would be realized immediately.

(02-29-2016 11:36 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 10:21 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-28-2016 10:25 AM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(02-28-2016 04:31 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The amount of revenue the cash cow Chicago market would bring the Big 12 in advertising would be astronomical. That alone keeps NIU in the mix.

This. Is. Only. True. If. They. Have. A. Network.

They don't.

+1...AND if that network is only able to be accessed thru a regional cable provider.

If the network is able to have a subscriber using an App without a cable provider then NIU being in the Chicago TV market is worthless.

The cable model is dying. THANK YOU WORLD! The Chicago market is such a red herring when it comes to NIU.

Cable may be dying, but to think you can be a stand alone conference network with out packaging is absurd. MWC has one, but they also have relationships with sports networks.

People think the age of buying individual channels on the net, an app alone is not coming. If it does, it will be a high premium.(Let's not forget who supplies the internet access.) Especially when the 4 networks now own their own cable networks, sports networks, not to mention ESPN and subsidiaries and and have interests in some college networks. Right now, there isn't much left for B12 to broadcast. KU has every BB game on ESPN, and every time I see listing, an ESPN or FOX is showing TCU. Same goes for football. They have to get network backing like the other P5.

(02-29-2016 03:03 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 02:55 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 12:58 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 10:57 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The big 12 will have a network soon. If they are concerned about growth and remaining relevant they will at least

Wakey wakey.
Seriously MD you need to quit this dream. Texas is not giving up its Longhorn Network, and the rest of the league has yet to make the commitment, but more importantly, NIU is unable to help any such fictitious network get established in what is a pro sports market. So it's not going to happen and the level of Big XII / Huskie interest is not mutual.

Eh the number of college football fans in the Chicago TV market isn't something to brush off that much. It is something but only with a TV network that is distributed regionally.

On top of that most Pro sports fans in Chicagoland are going to pay for the extra sports channels, even if they only show college ball.

And if you asked Chicagoans what their favorite team/who they follow the most it would be ND or some B10 team for about 95% of them. And favorite conference would be B10 for about the same.

It may say "college football fans" but seems the high % have a team(s) they specifically follow.

Agreed, but IF NIU is in the B12 and the B12 had a regionally distributed TV network it would likely be on the same cable package as ESPNU at the very least.

It really doesn't matter how many people are watching NIU. Right now a B12 network regionally distributed in Chicagoland would do well just because of all the other B12 alums.

(02-29-2016 02:58 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  This Big12 talk is like trying to get a date with Cindy Crawford and telling all my friends about it all the time. She is not going to date me or will ever call me. Let us move on, please.

So we should roofie the B12 like Rutgers did to the B1G?

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(02-29-2016 03:41 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 02:58 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  This Big12 talk is like trying to get a date with Cindy Crawford and telling all my friends about it all the time. She is not going to date me or will ever call me. Let us move on, please.

So we should roofie the B12 like Rutgers did to the B1G?

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Yep never underestimate the power of television markets and the cash it involves. Money is a very powerful thing

(02-29-2016 04:03 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 03:41 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 02:58 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  This Big12 talk is like trying to get a date with Cindy Crawford and telling all my friends about it all the time. She is not going to date me or will ever call me. Let us move on, please.

So we should roofie the B12 like Rutgers did to the B1G?

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Yep never underestimate the power of television markets and the cash it involves. Money is a very powerful thing

1 billion dollar endowment, 48,000 undergrads (19,000 grads), a market 3x the size of Chicago, only D1 football team within about 100 miles of NYC, only P5 team IN 200 miles probably, roughly 200 miles from 2 other conference teams.

I would say they had a little more upside then NIU.

But I will say they were a build it they will come, to an extent. Got good, had 40k consistently mid to late 2000's, before investing a lot in their stadium 100mil and expanding to 52k. Then they moved up to the big leagues.

The Big East got a little better, they got better.They WERE 10-15 years ago where NIU WANTS to be. Again,take a chance building it,take a step up a class (ANYWHERE other than Sunbelt is better) prove yourself. Problem is NCAA football conference dynamics both conference and playoffs are constantly changing and will in 5 yrs. NIU needs to align with anything other than MAC sorry to say, if they want to step up.

As mentioned before, I thing 2 BCS appearances in a row would have done wonders. A win in the 2nd and this stadium is being built now.

(02-29-2016 09:02 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 04:03 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 03:41 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(02-29-2016 02:58 PM)NIU75 Wrote:  This Big12 talk is like trying to get a date with Cindy Crawford and telling all my friends about it all the time. She is not going to date me or will ever call me. Let us move on, please.

So we should roofie the B12 like Rutgers did to the B1G?

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Yep never underestimate the power of television markets and the cash it involves. Money is a very powerful thing

1 billion dollar endowment, 48,000 undergrads (19,000 grads), a market 3x the size of Chicago, only D1 football team within about 100 miles of NYC, only P5 team IN 200 miles probably, roughly 200 miles from 2 other conference teams.

I would say they had a little more upside then NIU.

But I will say they were a build it they will come, to an extent. Got good, had 40k consistently mid to late 2000's, before investing a lot in their stadium 100mil and expanding to 52k. Then they moved up to the big leagues.

The Big East got a little better, they got better.They WERE 10-15 years ago where NIU WANTS to be. Again,take a chance building it,take a step up a class (ANYWHERE other than Sunbelt is better) prove yourself. Problem is NCAA football conference dynamics both conference and playoffs are constantly changing and will in 5 yrs. NIU needs to align with anything other than MAC sorry to say, if they want to step up.

As mentioned before, I thing 2 BCS appearances in a row would have done wonders. A win in the 2nd and this stadium is being built now.

I think moving out of the MAC would ultimately weaken NIUs position

I think the realization needs to be made that DeKalb is NOT Chicago.

If NIU was in the same position in 2010, located in Chicago or along the Tri-State I think NIU would be top consideration for B12 and many talks would have occurred. As well as NIU stadium plans would be here and NIU would have 2x+ the crowd and many times more the fan base. May have already been in another conference, "maybe" even B12.

Unfortunately, it's not.

BTW, do cable providers in DeKalb County still provide both Chicago and Rockford network feeds?

Just curious.

(02-29-2016 10:54 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  BTW, do cable providers in DeKalb County still provide both Chicago and Rockford network feeds?
Just curious.

Yes / no. They provide the ABC, CBS and NBC channels from both Rockford and Chicago, however, the Rockford Fox -- which often airs sports not showing on the Chicago Fox -- is not included. And only the Chicago networks are provided in HD, so even though the Rockford stations are in HD, you can't get that version in DeKalb. It may not be mean much to many, but Scott Leber on WTVO (ABC-17) does a lot on Huskie athletics and does a good job.