I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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after hearing this news, BLM went to a random, uninvolved city and helped the citizens burn all their sh*t down.

It's not just a Black issue. Lot's of Young folks today no longer take Advanced Education or the Job Market seriously like They did twenty years ago. More are interested in Social Media and Video gaming than actually functioning in the real world.

(02-22-2016 10:24 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  It's not just a Black issue. Lot's of Young folks today no longer take Advanced Education or the Job Market seriously like They did twenty years ago. More are interested in Social Media and Video gaming than actually functioning in the real world.

it's all that's left....pardon the pun....

no surprise. One only needs to look at the graduation rates from HBCUs. There are many with less than 20% of students that graduate within 6 years. There are a few with less than a 10% graduation rate in 6 years.

That's just terrible.

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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So much condescension in this post as it really has more to do with your personal issues rather than solving problems, starting a discussion or actually being productive.

(02-22-2016 10:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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So much condescension in this post as it really has more to do with your personal issues rather than solving problems, starting a discussion or actually being productive.

like the context of the article that rambles all over the place?

(02-22-2016 10:37 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 10:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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So much condescension in this post as it really has more to do with your personal issues rather than solving problems, starting a discussion or actually being productive.

like the context of the article that rambles all over the place?

I'm trying to figure out the point of this thread other than to take some drive
by shots at liberals.

(02-22-2016 10:41 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 10:37 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 10:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

Link

So much condescension in this post as it really has more to do with your personal issues rather than solving problems, starting a discussion or actually being productive.

like the context of the article that rambles all over the place?

I'm trying to figure out the point of this thread other than to take some drive
by shots at liberals.

yup....

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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Blacks have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

(02-22-2016 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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Blacks have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

Name those obstacles, please.

Quote:The SUNY board of trustees last fall adopted a new diversity policy that aims to make SUNY the “most inclusive” state university system in the country. The policy requires all of the state-operated campuses to appoint a chief diversity officer by 2017. The policy also directs campuses to develop strategic plans to close any gaps in student completion rates. Geneseo asked the University of Southern California’s Center for Urban Education to do an in-depth study to determine why it was losing some students before they graduated. The college also received a $275,000 grant from SUNY to create an “honors transfer path” with Monroe Community College, which has a more diverse student body. The grant will make it easier for MCC honors students to transfer into the honors program at Geneseo.

I wish we knew what was driving up the cost of colleges.

They do face more obstacles, but not government obstacles or obstacles based on race. They face the same obstacles most poor people face, family issues, money, etc.

I'm tired of the laziness associated with claiming its all about being black. I would wager that you find sufficiently similar problems for poor people in general.

(02-22-2016 11:13 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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Blacks have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

Name those obstacles, please.

Poverty
Drugs
Broken Homes
Racism
Public Schools
Neighborhoods
etc. etc.

(02-22-2016 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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Blacks have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

Gee Fit, Most Blacks in America have had Far more opportunities being born in America to succeed than Folks from Mexico have, yet many Mexican citizens with serious hurdles before Them have gone much farther in America than many Black folks have. Great work ethic and dedication have it's rewards. There are Millions of Black Folks in America that have had great success just like Successful Whites have. You have to be the one to make success Your goal. No One gives it to You based on Your Skin color.

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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Or three our Public K12 system does such a crap job with AA's that they start college behind their white counterparts.

(02-22-2016 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

Link

Blacks have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

That's inaccurate... Poor kids from broken homes have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

I've known black kids from in tact homes in the burbs who had very little to overcome.

(02-22-2016 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

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Blacks have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

Bullcrap.

(02-22-2016 11:34 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

Link

Blacks have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

That's inaccurate... Poor kids from broken homes have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

I've known black kids from in tact homes in the burbs who had very little to overcome.

Come on man, it's just easier to go with the race card.

(02-22-2016 11:34 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-22-2016 09:22 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I read the story in the Buffalo News about blacks not graduating from colleges at the same rate as whites. After a careful read, I concluded that the story was informative but basically nothing more gasoline for the fire. Is this the way to start a dialogue when the chasm between whites and blacks hasn't been wider in 60 years.


There are two logical and alternative conclusions that can be reached from the story. One, academia is making it harder for blacks to succeed than they do for whites. Or two, blacks aren't capable of doing the necessary work. Maybe they need safe spaces?

Well have at it posters. I'm sure this should gender some interesting posts. I'll have to check back later as I'm on my way to the airport for a trip to Florida. Damn I love my white privilege.

Link

Blacks have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

That's inaccurate... Poor kids from broken homes have to overcome more obstacles than whites do in order to graduate from college.

I've known black kids from in tact homes in the burbs who had very little to overcome.

You are correct. Poor kids from broken homes have to overcome more obstacles but those people are a large percentage of the black population.

Of course there are black and white people from good homes who don't ever finish college. There is no question however that it's more difficult to finish when you are black and it has nothing to do with their race.