(02-17-2016 09:41 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 09:37 PM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 09:16 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 08:37 PM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 06:05 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  this all makes sense if you are clueless

RU has been in the AAU since 1989 so why would a list in 1992 include "AAU"

RU has some of the absolute worst finances in all of D1-A their budget is massively subsidized by the academic side and that subsidy is the highest total dollar amount in all of D1-A

also it is not possible for the Big 10 to go to 20 teams and have pods like the NFL because unless you were brain dead or on life support last month you would know that the Big 10 specifically lead the charge to make sure that only division winners from a division that plays a full round robin can play in a CCG and that does not include pods

not sure how you can accuse UConn of cutting corners and doing things on the short term when they at least managed to win their conference and play in a BCS game before their football program fell apart (while RU just fell apart) and UConn mens and womens BB is something RU will probably never match.....and the UConn athletics department is not a dumpster fire with a non-athletics AD running the show trying to clean up a massive mess

other than that cool story bro please post more do you study a lot of D1-AA and NAIA teams by chance we have a lack of that on this forum as well!

haha, it is you who are clueless. good thing the millionaires who make the decisions that make millions for the billion dollar companies and institutions dont think like you do.

i get it, many of you are upset a school like rutgers could get a lottery ticket into the big. i feel your pain, i do not blame you. but to come up with reasons to rationalize that a mistake must have been made, i mean you clearly just selected facts to make me wrong or prove yourself right, but you are wrong buddy, otherwise you would be a millionaire making decisions for the big.

im not here to explain whats right or wrong, i just wanted to tell you guys why, but you can stomp your feet and cry and try to make yourself feel better with posts like this.

you realize winning has nothing to do with it? so while uconn won a national title, the very next year they got sanctioned and banned from ncaa play, while rutgers continued to finish in the top 10 in APR, you know, the stuff the BIG actually cares about.

uconn doesnt even have a stadium on campus, and its like 32k. rutgers built a stadium in 1994 with expansion in mind and is 55k......oh but lets not pretend they did this without big ten assurance.

rutgers has a subsidy, oh well, itll be gone in 1 year of full big ten payment shares and the athletic department will be in the green, making more money than clemson and fsu, maybe put together.

see, its thing like this that make fans like you just terrible. you see past and present, with no core values in life. its about the future. grow up and youll see the direction we are all going.

way to double down on stupid

many of the people that make decisions for billion dollar companies either make stupid decisions that are not that well thought out or that are long term proven to be stupid decisions

I am not upset at all that Rutgers got into the Big 10 that is the problem for the Big 10 to deal with but that does not change the fact that your post was full of BS and easily refuted and comes from inside of your butt not from someone with any insider info

and yea what a rebuke......"you selected facts that show the OP is totally full of BS, but those are just facts".......you should be a debate coach for the special olympics of debate where every team gets a participation trophy

and who cares about UConn Rutgers still sucks at athletics and will most likely continue to suck at athletics for decades and UConn could go on NCAA probation and still come out and be better at athletics than Rutgers.....and yea the Big 10 cares nothing about winning that is why they have such bastions of integrity like Penn State in the conference and treated like a top dog

and PS UConn could be on academic probation and Rutgers could have the top APR in every sport in the country and that does not change the fact that you are a no one and your first post was total crap

and Rutgers had a budget of $76 million last year with $36 million of that as an academic side subsidy so in about a decade when Rutgers gets a full Big 10 share if they replace that academic subsidy with a Big 10 money they will not come close to having the budget of FSU and will only be about $2 million ahead of Clemson and they will only be ahead of Purdue in the Big 10 so congrats on being at the bottom of the conference and solidly in the lower half of the P5 in revenues......look out everyone here comes RUTGERS!!!!!!....oh yea in about a decade when they get a full Big 10 share and if their athletics department does not go broke before then

yea I mean who does not see the past and present and you are a winner there great "Core values" you have...."hey everyone I am some clueless dolt that is going to make up a bunch of nonsense to pretend I am an "insider" that was too stupid to use the internet for the last 3 years here is a bunch of easily refuted garbage about how Rutgers became the bottom feeder of the Big 10"

wow I mean who does not want core values like those......combined with the always enviable "we might suck but we get paid for our suck!!!"

yea I mean really you got me there who does not want to have the core values of being exposed as full of crap and also admitting you suck, but will one day get paid for sucking

plus mix in a solid amount of player abuse from coaches, fabrication of resumes from coaches, player arrest for serious crimes and a coach pressuring faculty to change grades (gee wonder how that APR is what it is)

yea great core values there Rutgers

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bdavidridpat...fd9b8e30d9

as poorly run and as big of a pile of crap as Rutgers is athletically it would not be hard to imagine someone as stupid as you might be an "insider" at this point, but you are still a fool and what you wrote was still garbage and clearly Rutgers needs less morons like you making those "million dollar" decisions and more people with a clue making any decision

but hey Big 10 Big 10 Big 10!!!!!

lol, you got wrecked , the tone in your reply and remarks are that of a child. good night

yea because adults say things like "you got wrecked"

and it is only 9:30 pm east coast time is it bed time already or does your mom have to give you a bath first and read you a story then bed time

have her read you the story about Rutgers being good in athletics and having strong athletics core values.....it is a good one

would you like to compare the attendance and football win and loss record for the ast 10 years of rutgers vs uconn, or tv ratings? or are you just gonna stomp your feet with "you suck " replies without any substance?

(02-17-2016 09:47 PM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  would you like to compare the attendance and football win and loss record for the ast 10 years of rutgers vs uconn, or tv ratings? or are you just gonna stomp your feet with "you suck " replies without any substance?

news flash

not sucking for any program not named Rutgers involves more than just being better than UConn

(02-17-2016 09:41 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 09:37 PM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 09:16 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 08:37 PM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 06:05 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  this all makes sense if you are clueless

RU has been in the AAU since 1989 so why would a list in 1992 include "AAU"

RU has some of the absolute worst finances in all of D1-A their budget is massively subsidized by the academic side and that subsidy is the highest total dollar amount in all of D1-A

also it is not possible for the Big 10 to go to 20 teams and have pods like the NFL because unless you were brain dead or on life support last month you would know that the Big 10 specifically lead the charge to make sure that only division winners from a division that plays a full round robin can play in a CCG and that does not include pods

not sure how you can accuse UConn of cutting corners and doing things on the short term when they at least managed to win their conference and play in a BCS game before their football program fell apart (while RU just fell apart) and UConn mens and womens BB is something RU will probably never match.....and the UConn athletics department is not a dumpster fire with a non-athletics AD running the show trying to clean up a massive mess

other than that cool story bro please post more do you study a lot of D1-AA and NAIA teams by chance we have a lack of that on this forum as well!

haha, it is you who are clueless. good thing the millionaires who make the decisions that make millions for the billion dollar companies and institutions dont think like you do.

i get it, many of you are upset a school like rutgers could get a lottery ticket into the big. i feel your pain, i do not blame you. but to come up with reasons to rationalize that a mistake must have been made, i mean you clearly just selected facts to make me wrong or prove yourself right, but you are wrong buddy, otherwise you would be a millionaire making decisions for the big.

im not here to explain whats right or wrong, i just wanted to tell you guys why, but you can stomp your feet and cry and try to make yourself feel better with posts like this.

you realize winning has nothing to do with it? so while uconn won a national title, the very next year they got sanctioned and banned from ncaa play, while rutgers continued to finish in the top 10 in APR, you know, the stuff the BIG actually cares about.

uconn doesnt even have a stadium on campus, and its like 32k. rutgers built a stadium in 1994 with expansion in mind and is 55k......oh but lets not pretend they did this without big ten assurance.

rutgers has a subsidy, oh well, itll be gone in 1 year of full big ten payment shares and the athletic department will be in the green, making more money than clemson and fsu, maybe put together.

see, its thing like this that make fans like you just terrible. you see past and present, with no core values in life. its about the future. grow up and youll see the direction we are all going.

way to double down on stupid

many of the people that make decisions for billion dollar companies either make stupid decisions that are not that well thought out or that are long term proven to be stupid decisions

I am not upset at all that Rutgers got into the Big 10 that is the problem for the Big 10 to deal with but that does not change the fact that your post was full of BS and easily refuted and comes from inside of your butt not from someone with any insider info

and yea what a rebuke......"you selected facts that show the OP is totally full of BS, but those are just facts".......you should be a debate coach for the special olympics of debate where every team gets a participation trophy

and who cares about UConn Rutgers still sucks at athletics and will most likely continue to suck at athletics for decades and UConn could go on NCAA probation and still come out and be better at athletics than Rutgers.....and yea the Big 10 cares nothing about winning that is why they have such bastions of integrity like Penn State in the conference and treated like a top dog

and PS UConn could be on academic probation and Rutgers could have the top APR in every sport in the country and that does not change the fact that you are a no one and your first post was total crap

and Rutgers had a budget of $76 million last year with $36 million of that as an academic side subsidy so in about a decade when Rutgers gets a full Big 10 share if they replace that academic subsidy with a Big 10 money they will not come close to having the budget of FSU and will only be about $2 million ahead of Clemson and they will only be ahead of Purdue in the Big 10 so congrats on being at the bottom of the conference and solidly in the lower half of the P5 in revenues......look out everyone here comes RUTGERS!!!!!!....oh yea in about a decade when they get a full Big 10 share and if their athletics department does not go broke before then

yea I mean who does not see the past and present and you are a winner there great "Core values" you have...."hey everyone I am some clueless dolt that is going to make up a bunch of nonsense to pretend I am an "insider" that was too stupid to use the internet for the last 3 years here is a bunch of easily refuted garbage about how Rutgers became the bottom feeder of the Big 10"

wow I mean who does not want core values like those......combined with the always enviable "we might suck but we get paid for our suck!!!"

yea I mean really you got me there who does not want to have the core values of being exposed as full of crap and also admitting you suck, but will one day get paid for sucking

plus mix in a solid amount of player abuse from coaches, fabrication of resumes from coaches, player arrest for serious crimes and a coach pressuring faculty to change grades (gee wonder how that APR is what it is)

yea great core values there Rutgers

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bdavidridpat...fd9b8e30d9

as poorly run and as big of a pile of crap as Rutgers is athletically it would not be hard to imagine someone as stupid as you might be an "insider" at this point, but you are still a fool and what you wrote was still garbage and clearly Rutgers needs less morons like you making those "million dollar" decisions and more people with a clue making any decision

but hey Big 10 Big 10 Big 10!!!!!

lol, you got wrecked , the tone in your reply and remarks are that of a child. good night

yea because adults say things like "you got wrecked"

and it is only 9:30 pm east coast time is it bed time already or does your mom have to give you a bath first and read you a story then bed time

have her read you the story about Rutgers being good in athletics and having strong athletics core values.....it is a good one

Goodnight moon is a much better read. IMHO

I could buy the end game of 4 conferences of 16-20 but its hard to get the end game since the big dogs, texas, UNC and ND are content with the status quo + the big 10 and sec don't want to pick off anybody but the true blue bloods. Also, don't think Va tech and NC state want to leave their big brothers and join the sec.

(02-17-2016 05:21 PM)brista21 Wrote:  Whaler, not totally disputing your post. There were two other factors institutional similarity. Rutgers and most of the Big Ten are similar institutionally. The other being recruiting grounds, NJ produces a lot of talent for football, basketball, soccer, wrestling, lacrosse and increasing numbers for hockey too. All of these are focuses for the Big Ten. Recruiting kids to Bloomington or Madison becomes easier if you can tell them you're going to play in front of your friends and family back home a few times and they'll be able to catch you on TV fairly often if not every game.

There were newspaper articles locally and nationally from the early 90s that speculated the Big Ten would expand further beyond Penn State. Rutgers, Missouri, Kansas were all mentioned then. Former AD Bob Mulcahy admits he had been talking to the Big Ten since he first started the job way back when. Now, as to them giving us an implicit do these things and we'll invite you, yea I'm not buying that either. However, to say that both sides hadn't been thinking about it for a long time would also be something I'm not buying.

Why is Rutgers to the B1G questioned or a surprise?

Everything about Rutgers and New Jersey fits right in with the B1G; a mega sized land grant in a highly populated state. Their are plenty of B1G grads in the greater NYC metro, the largest metro in the country.

Nebraska and Maryland's addition are more questionable in a couple of areas for the B1G.

The OP brings up good points but I can't believe anything is an original thought...just looks like a troll of UConn.

(02-17-2016 07:53 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 06:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  If you have to constantly defend your admission to a conference...

You weren't a good pick.

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Enjoy the fantasy that Rutgers is better than anyone in the G5 or D1.

And from those of us who've followed your program for decades...there's little evidence that you'll improve in the future. 1 Conference win in football. Congrats on beating an 0-12 Kansas team and an awful Army squad too.

And in basketball? Oh my God, you guys suck. But that's been a pretty much permanent condition for your program. Last NCAA tournament bid...25 years ago. Last NCAA tournament win... 33 years ago. Currently you are 0-13 in the B1G. Last year, 2-16. And the suckitude goes on as far as the eye can see.

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Maybe I was a bit harsh... Rutgers is slightly better than Fordham in football/basketball.
And your national ranking is 72 per USNWR. Sounds about right. Behind Clemson

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So please, continue to argue that the B1G has some sort of special criteria that is unobservable to anyone outside of the B1G Ten in which Rutgers makes sense.

I know exactly why Rutgers got into the B1G. Its not hard. The B1G wanted to force people in Philly, NJ, and NYC to pay money to the Big Ten in order to receive any cable programming. The vast majority of those customers don't watch Rutgers sports and never will. Also, Penn State wanted some closer and weaker rivals.

But understand...no one is questioning conference bids for Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, West Virginia, Louisville. Just you guys.

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And you better hope all of this realignment (where Rutgers will be kept in the bigs) happens before more cord cutting happens. Forcing people in NYC to pay for Rutgers football in order to get cable has a limited time frame.

Is the South Alabama/GWU fan talking smack? I'm sorry we all couldn't be in the sunbelt.

Yes. GWU regularly beats the tar out of RU. And its not an upset when RU gets curb stomped by the Colonials. Heck its not an upset when RU gets curb stomped by anyone. By the way, your team this year is the worst team I have EVER seen at the D1 level in over 30 years of watching college basketball. And that includes watching USA play IUPUI or UT-Pan American. I am stunned you have any wins this year. I'm not surprised you have 0 wins in the B1G.

And then there's your football. Pretty much everyone else but you and Temple managed to win the Big East. A couple of okay to decent seasons. Cincy, Uconn, UCF, Houston, and even NIU have better football resumes.

So yes, a fan of South friggin' Alabama is looking at RU football and saying.. "you ain't all that...". With all of your markets and conference bumps and other advantages...you still don't do much with it. Our football programs are probably about the same. Difference is...we don't try and pretend that we're supposed to be in the B1G. And that's what RU does in the B1G....Pretends.

You've beaten Arkansas. So has ULM. You've beaten Michigan. So has App State. You've beaten Indiana. UNT did that several times when they were having okay years in the Sun Belt. I think you beat Louisville. So did FIU when they were in the Sun Belt. You've beaten Maryland. A Sun Belt team did that too. Twice in a row.

Nobody does less with more than RU. You did nothing with your move from the A-10 to the Big East. One good(ish) season in a down Big East. A couple of mediocre seasons in football...And my God, your basketball....your basketball...your basketball.

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And RU's response is that the school is somehow God's gift to academic excellence. USNWR ranks you at 72. Its a good ranking. But its behind GW. And even behind Clemson. And Nebraska got tossed from the AAU so its not like the B1G is some sort of academic conference.
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Look, just be grateful the B1G and ESPN have a stranglehold on cable systems in the Philly/NJ/NYC area and are able to force consumers that aren't really interested in RU basketball/football to pay them in order to watch non-sports programming on cable. If I'm Rutgers, I'd try to fix your basketball program and win some football games before a la carte comes to cable.

Vandy and Iowa State don't run around throwing smack at G5 schools. Neither does Wake Forest. They don't try to cheerlead some break up of FBS.

A little humility and a lot more wins on RU's part would go a long way. And the recognition that RU isn't better than anyone else in the G5. So the next time one of you guys try to cheerlead FBS splitting up, we're going to call RU out as no better (or even worse) than some of the programs in the G5

(02-17-2016 06:05 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  this all makes sense if you are clueless

RU has been in the AAU since 1989 so why would a list in 1992 include "AAU"

RU has some of the absolute worst finances in all of D1-A their budget is massively subsidized by the academic side and that subsidy is the highest total dollar amount in all of D1-A

also it is not possible for the Big 10 to go to 20 teams and have pods like the NFL because unless you were brain dead or on life support last month you would know that the Big 10 specifically lead the charge to make sure that only division winners from a division that plays a full round robin can play in a CCG and that does not include pods

not sure how you can accuse UConn of cutting corners and doing things on the short term when they at least managed to win their conference and play in a BCS game before their football program fell apart (while RU just fell apart) and UConn mens and womens BB is something RU will probably never match.....and the UConn athletics department is not a dumpster fire with a non-athletics AD running the show trying to clean up a massive mess

other than that cool story bro please post more do you study a lot of D1-AA and NAIA teams by chance we have a lack of that on this forum as well!

Plus, the numbers are wrong as well. Out of Delany's own mouth, the Big 10 is looking to 22 teams for the Big 10 conference. It was mentioned before the ACC went to the GoRs the schools signed. Some of the schools might be regretting that the ACC would not get a tv network.

(02-17-2016 06:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  If you have to constantly defend your admission to a conference...

You weren't a good pick.

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Enjoy the fantasy that Rutgers is better than anyone in the G5 or D1.

And from those of us who've followed your program for decades...there's little evidence that you'll improve in the future. 1 Conference win in football. Congrats on beating an 0-12 Kansas team and an awful Army squad too.

And in basketball? Oh my God, you guys suck. But that's been a pretty much permanent condition for your program. Last NCAA tournament bid...25 years ago. Last NCAA tournament win... 33 years ago. Currently you are 0-13 in the B1G. Last year, 2-16. And the suckitude goes on as far as the eye can see.

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Maybe I was a bit harsh... Rutgers is slightly better than Fordham in football/basketball.
And your national ranking is 72 per USNWR. Sounds about right. Behind Clemson

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So please, continue to argue that the B1G has some sort of special criteria that is unobservable to anyone outside of the B1G Ten in which Rutgers makes sense.

I know exactly why Rutgers got into the B1G. Its not hard. The B1G wanted to force people in Philly, NJ, and NYC to pay money to the Big Ten in order to receive any cable programming. The vast majority of those customers don't watch Rutgers sports and never will. Also, Penn State wanted some closer and weaker rivals.

But understand...no one is questioning conference bids for Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, West Virginia, Louisville. Just you guys.

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And you better hope all of this realignment (where Rutgers will be kept in the bigs) happens before more cord cutting happens. Forcing people in NYC to pay for Rutgers football in order to get cable has a limited time frame.

RU was a good pick. It kept PSU in the B1G and out of the ACC.

Then we could be watching a post that will wither and die on the vine here!

(02-17-2016 08:37 PM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 06:05 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  this all makes sense if you are clueless

RU has been in the AAU since 1989 so why would a list in 1992 include "AAU"

RU has some of the absolute worst finances in all of D1-A their budget is massively subsidized by the academic side and that subsidy is the highest total dollar amount in all of D1-A

also it is not possible for the Big 10 to go to 20 teams and have pods like the NFL because unless you were brain dead or on life support last month you would know that the Big 10 specifically lead the charge to make sure that only division winners from a division that plays a full round robin can play in a CCG and that does not include pods

not sure how you can accuse UConn of cutting corners and doing things on the short term when they at least managed to win their conference and play in a BCS game before their football program fell apart (while RU just fell apart) and UConn mens and womens BB is something RU will probably never match.....and the UConn athletics department is not a dumpster fire with a non-athletics AD running the show trying to clean up a massive mess

other than that cool story bro please post more do you study a lot of D1-AA and NAIA teams by chance we have a lack of that on this forum as well!

haha, it is you who are clueless. good thing the millionaires who make the decisions that make millions for the billion dollar companies and institutions dont think like you do.

i get it, many of you are upset a school like rutgers could get a lottery ticket into the big. i feel your pain, i do not blame you. but to come up with reasons to rationalize that a mistake must have been made, i mean you clearly just selected facts to make me wrong or prove yourself right, but you are wrong buddy, otherwise you would be a millionaire making decisions for the big.

im not here to explain whats right or wrong, i just wanted to tell you guys why, but you can stomp your feet and cry and try to make yourself feel better with posts like this.

you realize winning has nothing to do with it? so while uconn won a national title, the very next year they got sanctioned and banned from ncaa play, while rutgers continued to finish in the top 10 in APR, you know, the stuff the BIG actually cares about.

uconn doesnt even have a stadium on campus, and its like 32k. rutgers built a stadium in 1994 with expansion in mind and is 55k......oh but lets not pretend they did this without big ten assurance.

rutgers has a subsidy, oh well, itll be gone in 1 year of full big ten payment shares and the athletic department will be in the green, making more money than clemson and fsu, maybe put together.

see, its thing like this that make fans like you just terrible. you see past and present, with no core values in life. its about the future. grow up and youll see the direction we are all going.

God, I hate Rutgers fans...

Al, is that you?

everyone's an insider these days...

(02-18-2016 08:29 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  everyone's an insider these days...

sure is, everyone on twitter posting what they heard today...lol. this has been going on for years and decades, its quite a game.

i will say this though, i def stand by what i predicted and how rutgers got into the big, anyone with a brain can find out the stories all line up , except for the gw fans and the have nots, who shouldnt be allowed to even post here as they ruin this forum. those guys are the ultimate downers.

but one thing i would say that would alter my projection is i wouldnt rule out the wild card move of texas to the acc because the acc will let them bring some friends unlike the pac. the problem is the pac has the money, so texas will have to decide and im sure money wins everytime but there is a chance the acc, if they do it right, could end up with texas and notre dame.

(02-18-2016 08:07 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 06:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  If you have to constantly defend your admission to a conference...

You weren't a good pick.

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Enjoy the fantasy that Rutgers is better than anyone in the G5 or D1.

And from those of us who've followed your program for decades...there's little evidence that you'll improve in the future. 1 Conference win in football. Congrats on beating an 0-12 Kansas team and an awful Army squad too.

And in basketball? Oh my God, you guys suck. But that's been a pretty much permanent condition for your program. Last NCAA tournament bid...25 years ago. Last NCAA tournament win... 33 years ago. Currently you are 0-13 in the B1G. Last year, 2-16. And the suckitude goes on as far as the eye can see.

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Maybe I was a bit harsh... Rutgers is slightly better than Fordham in football/basketball.
And your national ranking is 72 per USNWR. Sounds about right. Behind Clemson

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So please, continue to argue that the B1G has some sort of special criteria that is unobservable to anyone outside of the B1G Ten in which Rutgers makes sense.

I know exactly why Rutgers got into the B1G. Its not hard. The B1G wanted to force people in Philly, NJ, and NYC to pay money to the Big Ten in order to receive any cable programming. The vast majority of those customers don't watch Rutgers sports and never will. Also, Penn State wanted some closer and weaker rivals.

But understand...no one is questioning conference bids for Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, West Virginia, Louisville. Just you guys.

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And you better hope all of this realignment (where Rutgers will be kept in the bigs) happens before more cord cutting happens. Forcing people in NYC to pay for Rutgers football in order to get cable has a limited time frame.

RU was a good pick. It kept PSU in the B1G and out of the ACC.

PSU wasn't going to leave the B1G for the ACC. Full stop.

(02-18-2016 09:23 AM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 08:29 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  everyone's an insider these days...

sure is, everyone on twitter posting what they heard today...lol. this has been going on for years and decades, its quite a game.

i will say this though, i def stand by what i predicted and how rutgers got into the big, anyone with a brain can find out the stories all line up , except for the gw fans and the have nots, who shouldnt be allowed to even post here as they ruin this forum. those guys are the ultimate downers.

but one thing i would say that would alter my projection is i wouldnt rule out the wild card move of texas to the acc because the acc will let them bring some friends unlike the pac. the problem is the pac has the money, so texas will have to decide and im sure money wins everytime but there is a chance the acc, if they do it right, could end up with texas and notre dame.

LOL. Enjoy losing 25 games a year in basketball for the forseeable future. By the way, when midpack A-10 schools have to worry about scheduling a B1G team because even if they beat you by 40 points it craters their RPI....you're not helping your conference.

When you spend decades at sub Sun Belt levels of football performance, then have one good (but not great season), then fall right back to the basement....you're not helping your conference.

And you're currently ranked as a peer of American University in the latest rankings. Not bad, but you aren't a peer of Michigan or Northwestern.

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Have not? That would be Rutgers. They 'have not' been to a NCAA tournament in 25 years. They 'have not' won a NCAA tournament game in 33 years. In football, they 'have not' had a conference championship in decades of playing in lower level P5. They 'have not' won many high profile or even medium profile wins.

Do you have ANY wins in the last 10 years that a real P5 team would point to and say ... 'see we did that'?

And yet, many of their fans confuse getting a bid to the P5 with actually belonging there. And try to use the strengths of others to cheerlead separation that they didn't earn and they'd never have if the cable TV contracts were designed differently.

(02-18-2016 10:24 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 09:23 AM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 08:29 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  everyone's an insider these days...

sure is, everyone on twitter posting what they heard today...lol. this has been going on for years and decades, its quite a game.

i will say this though, i def stand by what i predicted and how rutgers got into the big, anyone with a brain can find out the stories all line up , except for the gw fans and the have nots, who shouldnt be allowed to even post here as they ruin this forum. those guys are the ultimate downers.

but one thing i would say that would alter my projection is i wouldnt rule out the wild card move of texas to the acc because the acc will let them bring some friends unlike the pac. the problem is the pac has the money, so texas will have to decide and im sure money wins everytime but there is a chance the acc, if they do it right, could end up with texas and notre dame.

LOL. Enjoy losing 25 games a year in basketball for the forseeable future. By the way, when midpack A-10 schools have to worry about scheduling a B1G team because even if they beat you by 40 points it craters their RPI....you're not helping your conference.

When you spend decades at sub Sun Belt levels of football performance, then have one good (but not great season), then fall right back to the basement....you're not helping your conference.

And you're currently ranked as a peer of American University in the latest rankings. Not bad, but you aren't a peer of Michigan or Northwestern.

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Have not? That would be Rutgers. They 'have not' been to a NCAA tournament in 25 years. They 'have not' won a NCAA tournament game in 33 years. In football, they 'have not' had a conference championship in decades of playing in lower level P5. They 'have not' won many high profile or even medium profile wins.

Do you have ANY wins in the last 10 years that a real P5 team would point to and say ... 'see we did that'?

And yet, many of their fans confuse getting a bid to the P5 with actually belonging there. And try to use the strengths of others to cheerlead separation that they didn't earn and they'd never have if the cable TV contracts were designed differently.

To be fair to the ladies, they did win a share of the BIG EAST in football in 2013.

(02-18-2016 10:37 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 10:24 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 09:23 AM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 08:29 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  everyone's an insider these days...

sure is, everyone on twitter posting what they heard today...lol. this has been going on for years and decades, its quite a game.

i will say this though, i def stand by what i predicted and how rutgers got into the big, anyone with a brain can find out the stories all line up , except for the gw fans and the have nots, who shouldnt be allowed to even post here as they ruin this forum. those guys are the ultimate downers.

but one thing i would say that would alter my projection is i wouldnt rule out the wild card move of texas to the acc because the acc will let them bring some friends unlike the pac. the problem is the pac has the money, so texas will have to decide and im sure money wins everytime but there is a chance the acc, if they do it right, could end up with texas and notre dame.

LOL. Enjoy losing 25 games a year in basketball for the forseeable future. By the way, when midpack A-10 schools have to worry about scheduling a B1G team because even if they beat you by 40 points it craters their RPI....you're not helping your conference.

When you spend decades at sub Sun Belt levels of football performance, then have one good (but not great season), then fall right back to the basement....you're not helping your conference.

And you're currently ranked as a peer of American University in the latest rankings. Not bad, but you aren't a peer of Michigan or Northwestern.

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Have not? That would be Rutgers. They 'have not' been to a NCAA tournament in 25 years. They 'have not' won a NCAA tournament game in 33 years. In football, they 'have not' had a conference championship in decades of playing in lower level P5. They 'have not' won many high profile or even medium profile wins.

Do you have ANY wins in the last 10 years that a real P5 team would point to and say ... 'see we did that'?

And yet, many of their fans confuse getting a bid to the P5 with actually belonging there. And try to use the strengths of others to cheerlead separation that they didn't earn and they'd never have if the cable TV contracts were designed differently.

To be fair to the ladies, they did win a share of the BIG EAST in football in 2013.

They never represented their conference as champion. Seven Big East teams did. Uconn did. Cincy did several times. Rutgers never managed that. They did, however, end up in a four way tie in 2012 and beat 2 teams that had winning records all season. My guess is that Rutgers was a legitimate top 60 team that year.

(02-18-2016 08:29 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  everyone's an insider these days...

Don't worry Hank I'll be an outsider with you, apparently we are just a couple of plebeians.

Also, this might be the most amusing thread I've seen on here in a while. Whaler just blew this guy apart.

(02-18-2016 10:24 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 09:23 AM)Noworriesbro Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 08:29 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  everyone's an insider these days...

sure is, everyone on twitter posting what they heard today...lol. this has been going on for years and decades, its quite a game.

i will say this though, i def stand by what i predicted and how rutgers got into the big, anyone with a brain can find out the stories all line up , except for the gw fans and the have nots, who shouldnt be allowed to even post here as they ruin this forum. those guys are the ultimate downers.

but one thing i would say that would alter my projection is i wouldnt rule out the wild card move of texas to the acc because the acc will let them bring some friends unlike the pac. the problem is the pac has the money, so texas will have to decide and im sure money wins everytime but there is a chance the acc, if they do it right, could end up with texas and notre dame.

LOL. Enjoy losing 25 games a year in basketball for the forseeable future. By the way, when midpack A-10 schools have to worry about scheduling a B1G team because even if they beat you by 40 points it craters their RPI....you're not helping your conference.

When you spend decades at sub Sun Belt levels of football performance, then have one good (but not great season), then fall right back to the basement....you're not helping your conference.

And you're currently ranked as a peer of American University in the latest rankings. Not bad, but you aren't a peer of Michigan or Northwestern.

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Have not? That would be Rutgers. They 'have not' been to a NCAA tournament in 25 years. They 'have not' won a NCAA tournament game in 33 years. In football, they 'have not' had a conference championship in decades of playing in lower level P5. They 'have not' won many high profile or even medium profile wins.

Do you have ANY wins in the last 10 years that a real P5 team would point to and say ... 'see we did that'?

And yet, many of their fans confuse getting a bid to the P5 with actually belonging there. And try to use the strengths of others to cheerlead separation that they didn't earn and they'd never have if the cable TV contracts were designed differently.

good thing none of that matters when you look at future and potential. give a school like rutgers 40 mil a year instead of 4 mil a year and im willing to bet things will change in the future. you come off as raging that a school so terrible in basketball is getting a big boy seat.

again, when did winning have anything to do with moving up in conferences? thats why the decision makers are smarter than you. its about money my friend, thats why rutgers got in, thats why any other school will get in, because they bring money and whatever small time school you like is not. deal with it

(02-18-2016 10:49 AM)bearcatfan1211 Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 08:29 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  everyone's an insider these days...

Don't worry Hank I'll be an outsider with you, apparently we are just a couple of plebeians.

Also, this might be the most amusing thread I've seen on here in a while. Whaler just blew this guy apart.

gotta love how the uconn and cincy fans saying i got exposed, would you guys like peanut butter with that jelly? lol