(02-13-2016 10:22 AM)TripleA Wrote:  First of all, the Grizz aren't going to kick out a tenant. They would just renegotiate the lease, perhaps.

Second, we have to fall under 6k 2 years running to trigger that clause. This year would only be the first.

Third, the 11k+ number is tickets sold, as opposed to actual attendance. We have a large number of season ticket holders who don't want to lose their seat assignments, but no longer bother to attend.

When Pastner leaves, that will turn around, with the pace determined by whom we hire and how well he starts out.

I know as much, I know they have to go through a couple of years at least of poor attendance, I was just asking as a just in case valve. The pyramid is done as an option.

(02-13-2016 03:34 PM)rollgreenwave Wrote:  It is definitely small, but it's in great shape, and I've been to several games that were standing-room only, and the place is incredible when it's full. We just need a watchable product...

An SRO attendance game would be intense at a place like Tulane in that tiny place. I'd be a better HCA than a 11,000 seat arena with a tall roof that's half empty.

(02-13-2016 03:34 PM)rollgreenwave Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 02:30 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  It's painful watching Memphis at tulane, the arena is small and somewhat empty.

It is definitely small, but it's in great shape, and I've been to several games that were standing-room only, and the place is incredible when it's full. We just need a watchable product...

I agree. I think Fogelman (or whatever it is called now) is a great place to see a game. Tulane doesn't need a huge gym or a huge FB stadium. Fogelman could be a huge home court advantage if it were filled up.

(02-13-2016 11:40 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 10:22 AM)TripleA Wrote:  First of all, the Grizz aren't going to kick out a tenant. They would just renegotiate the lease, perhaps.

Second, we have to fall under 6k 2 years running to trigger that clause. This year would only be the first.

Third, the 11k+ number is tickets sold, as opposed to actual attendance. We have a large number of season ticket holders who don't want to lose their seat assignments, but no longer bother to attend.

When Pastner leaves, that will turn around, with the pace determined by whom we hire and how well he starts out.

I know as much, I know they have to go through a couple of years at least of poor attendance, I was just asking as a just in case valve. The pyramid is done as an option.

(02-13-2016 03:34 PM)rollgreenwave Wrote:  It is definitely small, but it's in great shape, and I've been to several games that were standing-room only, and the place is incredible when it's full. We just need a watchable product...

An SRO attendance game would be intense at a place like Tulane in that tiny place. I'd be a better HCA than a 11,000 seat arena with a tall roof that's half empty.

I spent 26 yrs. in New Orleans, and back in the 80s went to a few Memphis-Tulane bball games at the old named Fogleman when Tulane was pretty good at times--even ranked at some point I recall--and there was a developing rivalry in bball between the two schools.

The place was always intense and rocking back then.

Fogeleman lol what a pos

(02-16-2016 07:57 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 11:40 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 10:22 AM)TripleA Wrote:  First of all, the Grizz aren't going to kick out a tenant. They would just renegotiate the lease, perhaps.

Second, we have to fall under 6k 2 years running to trigger that clause. This year would only be the first.

Third, the 11k+ number is tickets sold, as opposed to actual attendance. We have a large number of season ticket holders who don't want to lose their seat assignments, but no longer bother to attend.

When Pastner leaves, that will turn around, with the pace determined by whom we hire and how well he starts out.

I know as much, I know they have to go through a couple of years at least of poor attendance, I was just asking as a just in case valve. The pyramid is done as an option.

(02-13-2016 03:34 PM)rollgreenwave Wrote:  It is definitely small, but it's in great shape, and I've been to several games that were standing-room only, and the place is incredible when it's full. We just need a watchable product...

An SRO attendance game would be intense at a place like Tulane in that tiny place. I'd be a better HCA than a 11,000 seat arena with a tall roof that's half empty.

I spent 26 yrs. in New Orleans, and back in the 80s went to a few Memphis-Tulane bball games at the old named Fogleman when Tulane was pretty good at times--even ranked at some point I recall--and there was a developing rivalry in bball between the two schools.

The place was always intense and rocking back then.

Dana Kirk VS Ned Fowler/Keith Lee VS Hot Rod Williams

Those were some entertaining games.

Both programs ended up on probation with Tulane discontinuing basketball for a few years.

(02-16-2016 09:40 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Fogeleman lol what a pos

Same arena, remodeled.

(02-16-2016 09:46 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:40 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Fogeleman lol what a pos

Same arena, remodeled.

who cares

it still holds, what, 15 people?

(02-13-2016 12:50 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

Is it just me or does this look eerily like a Houston basketball game?

(02-16-2016 09:58 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 12:50 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

Is it just me or does this look eerily like a Houston basketball game?

that is uh vs tulsa

Yeah it's tough to draw in Houston against the Rockets. Unlike in Cincinnati, where they have that NBA team known as the...umm, err... Royals? Oh sorry, this isn't 1963.

(02-16-2016 09:59 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:58 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 12:50 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

Is it just me or does this look eerily like a Houston basketball game?

that is uh vs tulsa

Teh rivalry

(02-16-2016 09:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:46 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:40 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Fogeleman lol what a pos

Same arena, remodeled.

who cares

it still holds, what, 15 people?

Close...as while they added some new seating in the corners, replacing bleacher seats in some sections with chairbacks has kept the capacity still extremely small.

Old Fogelman Arena


Devlin Fieldhouse

Hoping to reach the 6,000 fan attendance average for the season to they can receive their $800,000 payment...give the Tigers credit, as yesterday, they had groups of UM Cheerleaders handing out free tix to their remaining games at multiple street corners around town yesterday.

While that strategy is probably a good one for many AAC teams (including mine), never thought a prestigious program like Memphis would have to do that some day.

(02-17-2016 08:12 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Hoping to reach the 6,000 fan attendance average for the season to they can receive their $800,000 payment...give the Tigers credit, as yesterday, they had groups of UM Cheerleaders handing out free tix to their remaining games at multiple street corners around town yesterday.

While that strategy is probably a good one for many AAC teams (including mine), never thought a prestigious program like Memphis would have to do that some day.

I'm thinking Memphis will have good crowds the last home games. It will be a way of showing pride in the program and the future once Pastner goes, and also making it obvious why fans have stayed away this season--not a lack of support for the program but lack of support for the coach.

(02-17-2016 08:54 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 08:12 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  Hoping to reach the 6,000 fan attendance average for the season to they can receive their $800,000 payment...give the Tigers credit, as yesterday, they had groups of UM Cheerleaders handing out free tix to their remaining games at multiple street corners around town yesterday.

While that strategy is probably a good one for many AAC teams (including mine), never thought a prestigious program like Memphis would have to do that some day.

I'm thinking Memphis will have good crowds the last home games. It will be a way of showing pride in the program and the future once Pastner goes, and also making it obvious why fans have stayed away this season--not a lack of support for the program but lack of support for the coach.

Memphis is trying to pull out all the stops...from trying to hand out thousands of free tix to radio spots/interviews to social media campaign to get the fans out, etc...

Believe Memphis needs to average about 6,700 in actual attendance for their final 3 games to hit the 6,000 average minimum so the collect the bottom guarantee from the Grizzlies ($800,000).

Memphis season ticket holders think they are 'sending a message' about Pastner by sitting on their tickets...

hopefully they see they're only hurting the program at this point and return...the UofM even put out a 'we get it' statement.

(02-13-2016 10:22 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 07:13 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  IDK why they dumped the Pyramid so soon, they still could have had their own home court. Now it's a Bass Pro Shop and if UM gets kicked out, where would they play?

First of all, the Grizz aren't going to kick out a tenant. They would just renegotiate the lease, perhaps.

Second, we have to fall under 6k 2 years running to trigger that clause. This year would only be the first.

Third, the 11k+ number is tickets sold, as opposed to actual attendance. We have a large number of season ticket holders who don't want to lose their seat assignments, but no longer bother to attend.

When Pastner leaves, that will turn around, with the pace determined by whom we hire and how well he starts out.

I feel ya. We had this problem for a while too. Instead of correcting it and getting those people back to games, they finally just stopped buying tickets.

Hopefully you guys make the needed changes before you let your program completely fall apart like we did.

(02-17-2016 06:16 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:46 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:40 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Fogeleman lol what a pos

Same arena, remodeled.

who cares

it still holds, what, 15 people?

Close...as while they added some new seating in the corners, replacing bleacher seats in some sections with chairbacks has kept the capacity still extremely small.

Old Fogelman Arena


Devlin Fieldhouse

They replaced the seating, cleaned the place up and greatly improved the rest rooms. We used to say it was the only gym in the league with a bar at each end of the court. Where else can you get a bowl of jambalaya and a abita amber draft?

(02-17-2016 03:50 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:59 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:58 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 12:50 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

Is it just me or does this look eerily like a Houston basketball game?

that is uh vs tulsa

Teh rivalry

how many does that place seat? Seems like 11k?

(02-17-2016 04:22 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 06:16 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:46 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2016 09:40 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Fogeleman lol what a pos

Same arena, remodeled.

who cares

it still holds, what, 15 people?

Close...as while they added some new seating in the corners, replacing bleacher seats in some sections with chairbacks has kept the capacity still extremely small.

Old Fogelman Arena


Devlin Fieldhouse

They replaced the seating, cleaned the place up and greatly improved the rest rooms. We used to say it was the only gym in the league with a bar at each end of the court. Where else can you get a bowl of jambalaya and a abita amber draft?

Yum! Even though when I was younger back in my New Orleans days...I was an Abita Golden drinker.