(02-11-2016 01:41 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I live near there and this is a bad idea. The people behind this project are trying to get the land rezoned to make this deal. Around here no body is happy about it. It's not a done deal yet but maybe it is. Would you want this in your back yard?

they own the land, and should do what they like with it...why wouldn't you want apartments that will command the highest price per square foot in the area?

whaaaaa! traffic whaaaaa!...guess what? the Shelby Farms Parkway is actually going to happen, and I hope this development comes to pass with it.

it's the same "not in my back yard" crap that tried to stop projects like FedExForum here, and Tulane's Yulman Stadium in New Orleans.

(02-11-2016 04:46 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Wow, that is going to be a park killer. All that riff-raff that lives in apartments, flood the park causing trouble and such. Bad idea. It wouldn't happen right away but give it a few years, rent drops then the complex and park gets ruined. I would shoot (no pun intended)that in a heartbeat.

since we're calling folks names, there is PLENTY of white trash in the homes and zero lots behind that development...it might class the area up a little...we wouldn't want to distract residents from the lovely neighborhood jails in the area!

(02-12-2016 09:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 04:46 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Wow, that is going to be a park killer. All that riff-raff that lives in apartments, flood the park causing trouble and such. Bad idea. It wouldn't happen right away but give it a few years, rent drops then the complex and park gets ruined. I would shoot (no pun intended)that in a heartbeat.

since we're calling folks names, there is PLENTY of white trash in the homes and zero lots behind that development...it might class the area up a little...we wouldn't want to distract residents from the lovely neighborhood jails in the area!

Yeah that whole area from Whitten north to the interstate is hood rat central. Folks complaining about the apts when you have 3 or 4 of the worst apt complexes in the city right there at Whitten and Macon. Greenbrook is right there. Where's the complaining about it? Like they can't just bike up and ruin the park. Park's Edge is a very nice apt community on the E side of the park. Nothing wrong with those.

And what kind of street name is Manslick?

FFS.

(02-11-2016 06:39 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  It has only been approved at the Land Use Planning level. It has not been approved by City Council which has the final say.

I think it has to be approved by the Shelby County Commission...not the City Council.

one of the developers wife is a County Commissioner...guess how that vote will go.

Here you have a beautiful park and skyline and now you're going to see these monstrous apartments on the park edge.

(02-12-2016 10:26 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 09:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 04:46 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Wow, that is going to be a park killer. All that riff-raff that lives in apartments, flood the park causing trouble and such. Bad idea. It wouldn't happen right away but give it a few years, rent drops then the complex and park gets ruined. I would shoot (no pun intended)that in a heartbeat.

since we're calling folks names, there is PLENTY of white trash in the homes and zero lots behind that development...it might class the area up a little...we wouldn't want to distract residents from the lovely neighborhood jails in the area!

Yeah that whole area from Whitten north to the interstate is hood rat central. Folks complaining about the apts when you have 3 or 4 of the worst apt complexes in the city right there at Whitten and Macon. Greenbrook is right there. Where's the complaining about it? Like they can't just bike up and ruin the park. Park's Edge is a very nice apt community on the E side of the park. Nothing wrong with those.

And what kind of street name is Manslick?

FFS.

lol, I live just off of Manslick! (well, hopefully not much longer! House hunting in progress!!)

(02-12-2016 10:26 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 09:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 04:46 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Wow, that is going to be a park killer. All that riff-raff that lives in apartments, flood the park causing trouble and such. Bad idea. It wouldn't happen right away but give it a few years, rent drops then the complex and park gets ruined. I would shoot (no pun intended)that in a heartbeat.

since we're calling folks names, there is PLENTY of white trash in the homes and zero lots behind that development...it might class the area up a little...we wouldn't want to distract residents from the lovely neighborhood jails in the area!

Yeah that whole area from Whitten north to the interstate is hood rat central. Folks complaining about the apts when you have 3 or 4 of the worst apt complexes in the city right there at Whitten and Macon. Greenbrook is right there. Where's the complaining about it? Like they can't just bike up and ruin the park. Park's Edge is a very nice apt community on the E side of the park. Nothing wrong with those.

And what kind of street name is Manslick?

FFS.

The area behind this development isn't "high rent" either - but there is at least some kind of buffer between the neighborhoods and the park.
There's no need to build apartments right up to the very edge of the park. If you (figurative you) want more apartments, there's some space along Wolf River Parkway.

If allowed to go through, this development will look like a smaller version of G'Town parkway in 8 years.
Hey - let's put an O'Charley's across from the horse stables while we're at it.

(02-11-2016 06:35 PM)king king Wrote:  I've lived south of Nashville for the past 7 or so years. When we first moved up this way I was impressed with how much easier it was to get around in general. I could make the drive downtown everyday and it didn't seem an undue burden.

In the past 3 years Nashville has become the "it" place to be. Condos are going up ALL around town as if the city's livelihood depends on it. As of today there are 32 cranes in the city. That number is expected to grow to 52 by this time next year, placing Nashville as number one for the number of cranes within the city limits in the entire nation.

Needless to say, I kind of hate living in Nashville now. The influx of outsiders has only furthered the manufactured feel of the city, which was already high to begin with (Nashville has NOTHING on Memphis in the way of soul...too bad the school system there is a shambles and I cant afford to send my kids to private school).

All that to say that developments like this, while attractive on the surface, are in the long run a bad idea for the people living in the area currently. As was previously mentioned, those apartments will be glitzy and new at first but will eventually give way to a seedier aspect. Those people will invade that total gem of a park (to me it's one of the top 3 things Memphis has going for it, and it needs to continue that way) and turn it into a shell of what it is now and what it can continue to grow into. The traffic will get worse and the greenline will suffer. The subdivisions there are a little on the lower income side, IIRC, and putting in apartment buildings will only drag those property values down further. I watched it happen to the home I owned across from TJ Mulligans on Houston Levee once the apartments that are on the south side of the road were built.

My wife and I cant get out of Nashville fast enough but we're committed to it for another 4 years at the very least since the youngest is starting high school later this year and wouldn't take being separated from her friends very well. The surge in population, no increase in road capabilities, and influx of so many from different areas with no real stake in the city are making it a smaller Atlanta. That's a nightmare.

I liked living in Nashville back about 8-10 yrs ago. Was just there this week. Yes--so many cranes. BUT traffic is an absolute nightmare with no cure in sight and just getting worse.

(02-12-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 01:41 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I live near there and this is a bad idea. The people behind this project are trying to get the land rezoned to make this deal. Around here no body is happy about it. It's not a done deal yet but maybe it is. Would you want this in your back yard?

they own the land, and should do what they like with it...why wouldn't you want apartments that will command the highest price per square foot in the area?

whaaaaa! traffic whaaaaa!...guess what? the Shelby Farms Parkway is actually going to happen, and I hope this development comes to pass with it.

it's the same "not in my back yard" crap that tried to stop projects like FedExForum here, and Tulane's Yulman Stadium in New Orleans.

I would really like to hear why you think this is a good idea. And comparing this to the FedEx Forum is not the same thing.

(02-12-2016 12:32 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 01:41 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I live near there and this is a bad idea. The people behind this project are trying to get the land rezoned to make this deal. Around here no body is happy about it. It's not a done deal yet but maybe it is. Would you want this in your back yard?

they own the land, and should do what they like with it...why wouldn't you want apartments that will command the highest price per square foot in the area?

whaaaaa! traffic whaaaaa!...guess what? the Shelby Farms Parkway is actually going to happen, and I hope this development comes to pass with it.

it's the same "not in my back yard" crap that tried to stop projects like FedExForum here, and Tulane's Yulman Stadium in New Orleans.

I would really like to hear why you think this is a good idea. And comparing this to the FedEx Forum is not the same thing.

Absolutely nothing like the forum. One is a development in a major downtown area, the other is high-rise apartments along one of the largest greenspaces in the country.

(02-12-2016 10:32 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 06:39 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  It has only been approved at the Land Use Planning level. It has not been approved by City Council which has the final say.

I think it has to be approved by the Shelby County Commission...not the City Council.

one of the developers wife is a County Commissioner...guess how that vote will go.

The County and City Council.

(02-12-2016 10:26 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 09:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 04:46 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Wow, that is going to be a park killer. All that riff-raff that lives in apartments, flood the park causing trouble and such. Bad idea. It wouldn't happen right away but give it a few years, rent drops then the complex and park gets ruined. I would shoot (no pun intended)that in a heartbeat.

since we're calling folks names, there is PLENTY of white trash in the homes and zero lots behind that development...it might class the area up a little...we wouldn't want to distract residents from the lovely neighborhood jails in the area!

Yeah that whole area from Whitten north to the interstate is hood rat central. Folks complaining about the apts when you have 3 or 4 of the worst apt complexes in the city right there at Whitten and Macon. Greenbrook is right there. Where's the complaining about it? Like they can't just bike up and ruin the park. Park's Edge is a very nice apt community on the E side of the park. Nothing wrong with those.

And what kind of street name is Manslick?

FFS.

Do you know how long Greenbrook has been there? No I don't think you do. Hood rat central, I don't think so. Maybe Greenbrook is but I don't live there.

(02-12-2016 12:33 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:32 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 01:41 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I live near there and this is a bad idea. The people behind this project are trying to get the land rezoned to make this deal. Around here no body is happy about it. It's not a done deal yet but maybe it is. Would you want this in your back yard?

they own the land, and should do what they like with it...why wouldn't you want apartments that will command the highest price per square foot in the area?

whaaaaa! traffic whaaaaa!...guess what? the Shelby Farms Parkway is actually going to happen, and I hope this development comes to pass with it.

it's the same "not in my back yard" crap that tried to stop projects like FedExForum here, and Tulane's Yulman Stadium in New Orleans.

I would really like to hear why you think this is a good idea. And comparing this to the FedEx Forum is not the same thing.

Absolutely nothing like the forum. One is a development in a major downtown area, the other is high-rise apartments along one of the largest greenspaces in the country.

Yep, filling in urban areas with multi-story developments of this nature makes way more sense than building on unused land, butted up right next to a massive park.
After reading the follow-up story, it doesn't sound like the Shelby Farms conservancy is too gung-ho about it, either.

(02-12-2016 12:32 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 01:41 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I live near there and this is a bad idea. The people behind this project are trying to get the land rezoned to make this deal. Around here no body is happy about it. It's not a done deal yet but maybe it is. Would you want this in your back yard?

they own the land, and should do what they like with it...why wouldn't you want apartments that will command the highest price per square foot in the area?

whaaaaa! traffic whaaaaa!...guess what? the Shelby Farms Parkway is actually going to happen, and I hope this development comes to pass with it.

it's the same "not in my back yard" crap that tried to stop projects like FedExForum here, and Tulane's Yulman Stadium in New Orleans.

I would really like to hear why you think this is a good idea. And comparing this to the FedEx Forum is not the same thing.

because I like seeing Memphis developed with something other than cookie cutter houses...

no one is taking any public land...this is their purchased private land that they're free to do whatever they want with.

ever been to Central Park?

who would EVER want to live there? oh yeah, everyone.

(02-12-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:32 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 01:41 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I live near there and this is a bad idea. The people behind this project are trying to get the land rezoned to make this deal. Around here no body is happy about it. It's not a done deal yet but maybe it is. Would you want this in your back yard?

they own the land, and should do what they like with it...why wouldn't you want apartments that will command the highest price per square foot in the area?

whaaaaa! traffic whaaaaa!...guess what? the Shelby Farms Parkway is actually going to happen, and I hope this development comes to pass with it.

it's the same "not in my back yard" crap that tried to stop projects like FedExForum here, and Tulane's Yulman Stadium in New Orleans.

I would really like to hear why you think this is a good idea. And comparing this to the FedEx Forum is not the same thing.

because I like seeing Memphis developed with something other than cookie cutter houses...

no one is taking any public land...this is their purchased private land that they're free to do whatever they want with.

ever been to Central Park?

who would EVER want to live there? oh yeah, everyone.

I've been to NYC and Central Park many times - are you really comparing Central Park and Shelby farms?

Talk about a reach...

(02-12-2016 04:17 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:32 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 01:41 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I live near there and this is a bad idea. The people behind this project are trying to get the land rezoned to make this deal. Around here no body is happy about it. It's not a done deal yet but maybe it is. Would you want this in your back yard?

they own the land, and should do what they like with it...why wouldn't you want apartments that will command the highest price per square foot in the area?

whaaaaa! traffic whaaaaa!...guess what? the Shelby Farms Parkway is actually going to happen, and I hope this development comes to pass with it.

it's the same "not in my back yard" crap that tried to stop projects like FedExForum here, and Tulane's Yulman Stadium in New Orleans.

I would really like to hear why you think this is a good idea. And comparing this to the FedEx Forum is not the same thing.

because I like seeing Memphis developed with something other than cookie cutter houses...

no one is taking any public land...this is their purchased private land that they're free to do whatever they want with.

ever been to Central Park?

who would EVER want to live there? oh yeah, everyone.

I've been to NYC and Central Park many times - are you really comparing Central Park and Shelby farms?

Talk about a reach...

then don't move in...project will go on without ya :-)

(02-12-2016 04:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:17 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:32 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  they own the land, and should do what they like with it...why wouldn't you want apartments that will command the highest price per square foot in the area?

whaaaaa! traffic whaaaaa!...guess what? the Shelby Farms Parkway is actually going to happen, and I hope this development comes to pass with it.

it's the same "not in my back yard" crap that tried to stop projects like FedExForum here, and Tulane's Yulman Stadium in New Orleans.

I would really like to hear why you think this is a good idea. And comparing this to the FedEx Forum is not the same thing.

because I like seeing Memphis developed with something other than cookie cutter houses...

no one is taking any public land...this is their purchased private land that they're free to do whatever they want with.

ever been to Central Park?

who would EVER want to live there? oh yeah, everyone.

I've been to NYC and Central Park many times - are you really comparing Central Park and Shelby farms?

Talk about a reach...

then don't move in...project will go on without ya :-)

So you're in favor of all development? I guess you would have been against citizens to preserve Overton park too.

(02-12-2016 04:21 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:17 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:32 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I would really like to hear why you think this is a good idea. And comparing this to the FedEx Forum is not the same thing.

because I like seeing Memphis developed with something other than cookie cutter houses...

no one is taking any public land...this is their purchased private land that they're free to do whatever they want with.

ever been to Central Park?

who would EVER want to live there? oh yeah, everyone.

I've been to NYC and Central Park many times - are you really comparing Central Park and Shelby farms?

Talk about a reach...

then don't move in...project will go on without ya :-)

So you're in favor of all development? I guess you would have been against citizens to preserve Overton park too.

I'm all for private development around Overton Park...I don't see what that has to do with the citizens to preserve Overton park...unless you're trying to compare private development around the park, to a public development that would have gone through the park...which I think you are.

(02-12-2016 04:24 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:21 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:17 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  because I like seeing Memphis developed with something other than cookie cutter houses...

no one is taking any public land...this is their purchased private land that they're free to do whatever they want with.

ever been to Central Park?

who would EVER want to live there? oh yeah, everyone.

I've been to NYC and Central Park many times - are you really comparing Central Park and Shelby farms?

Talk about a reach...

then don't move in...project will go on without ya :-)

So you're in favor of all development? I guess you would have been against citizens to preserve Overton park too.

I'm all for private development around Overton Park...I don't see what that has to do with the citizens to preserve Overton park...unless you're trying to compare private development around the park, to a public development that would have gone through the park...which I think you are.

My point has to do with smart development vs. development.

You seem to be for any and all development.

Memphis is a city that has realized in recent years that they let too much unchecked development go on - and that is why you now have plans for areas like the medical district. It used to be that all development in the city was seen as good because it grew the immediate tax base without consideration of long term effects. That still exists to a degree but the city is doing a much better job of taking into consideration the long term effect of development.

The city is heavily involved in what will bring young, smart educated people to the city. There are studies that have been done on this and city leadership heavily considers it.

(02-12-2016 04:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 12:32 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-11-2016 01:41 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  I live near there and this is a bad idea. The people behind this project are trying to get the land rezoned to make this deal. Around here no body is happy about it. It's not a done deal yet but maybe it is. Would you want this in your back yard?

they own the land, and should do what they like with it...why wouldn't you want apartments that will command the highest price per square foot in the area?

whaaaaa! traffic whaaaaa!...guess what? the Shelby Farms Parkway is actually going to happen, and I hope this development comes to pass with it.

it's the same "not in my back yard" crap that tried to stop projects like FedExForum here, and Tulane's Yulman Stadium in New Orleans.

I would really like to hear why you think this is a good idea. And comparing this to the FedEx Forum is not the same thing.

because I like seeing Memphis developed with something other than cookie cutter houses...

no one is taking any public land...this is their purchased private land that they're free to do whatever they want with.

ever been to Central Park?

who would EVER want to live there? oh yeah, everyone.

So, the guy across the street from your apartment could just decide to tear down his home and build a slaughterhouse? I mean, it is HIS land, and he is FREE to do whatever he wants, right?

Buffoonery.