(02-04-2016 11:19 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:27 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 07:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 06:57 PM)Paul M Wrote:  No, she's guilty once she's committed a crime. And she's already done that. She just wont face any consequences till a court of law makes a correct ruling.

She isn't guilty until a court says she's guilty.

Guilty and guilty in a court of law are two different things. She is guilty. There is no dispute. Only denial. And lies.

Only the court of law matters and unless you were there, you can't know for sure.

Where was this fitbudwhen Zimmerman was on trial..

Big difference here.

Zimmerman had his day in court.

(02-04-2016 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 11:19 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:27 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 07:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  She isn't guilty until a court says she's guilty.

Guilty and guilty in a court of law are two different things. She is guilty. There is no dispute. Only denial. And lies.

Only the court of law matters and unless you were there, you can't know for sure.

Where was this fitbudwhen Zimmerman was on trial..

Big difference here.

Zimmerman had his day in court.

But you still think he is guilty, correct?

(02-04-2016 01:10 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 11:19 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:27 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Guilty and guilty in a court of law are two different things. She is guilty. There is no dispute. Only denial. And lies.

Only the court of law matters and unless you were there, you can't know for sure.

Where was this fitbudwhen Zimmerman was on trial..

Big difference here.

Zimmerman had his day in court.

But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

(02-04-2016 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:10 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 11:19 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 08:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Only the court of law matters and unless you were there, you can't know for sure.

Where was this fitbudwhen Zimmerman was on trial..

Big difference here.

Zimmerman had his day in court.

But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:10 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 11:19 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Where was this fitbudwhen Zimmerman was on trial..

Big difference here.

Zimmerman had his day in court.

But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:10 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Big difference here.

Zimmerman had his day in court.

But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Then answer Bull's question and stop deflecting.

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  But you still think he is guilty, correct?

(02-04-2016 01:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:10 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Then answer Bull's question and stop deflecting.

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Guilty of what?

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:10 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Big difference here.

Zimmerman had his day in court.

But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Answer the question. And i will be more specific: Do you still think he's guilty of the crime of murder?

Clearly Fit...and many...feel that he should have been found guilty. So what's the big deal?

If he's like me, I have no qualms with what the jury found. Doesn't mean that we can't feel that he got away with murder.

(02-04-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Then answer Bull's question and stop deflecting.

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Guilty of what?

I'll rephrase. Do you think the jury reached the right verdict?

(02-04-2016 01:35 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:10 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Answer the question. And i will be more specific: Do you still think he's guilty of the crime of murder?

At the time, I didn't think he was guilty of murder because I don't believe there was premeditation. Since then, it has come to light that he has some real issues so I wonder about it now.

(02-04-2016 01:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:35 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Answer the question. And i will be more specific: Do you still think he's guilty of the crime of murder?

At the time, I didn't think he was guilty of murder because I don't believe there was premeditation. Since then, it has come to light that he has some real issues so I wonder about it now.

"Seems like first degree murder to me!"



and you STILL didnt answer the qustion!

(02-04-2016 01:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:35 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:13 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Is there any doubt that he killed Trevon?

As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Answer the question. And i will be more specific: Do you still think he's guilty of the crime of murder?

At the time, I didn't think he was guilty of murder because I don't believe there was premeditation. Since then, it has come to light that he has some real issues so I wonder about it now.

What was he originally charged with? That didn't require a premeditation to convict did it? Either way, didn't they overcharge him, thereby making it next to impossible to convict?

(02-04-2016 01:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:35 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Answer the question. And i will be more specific: Do you still think he's guilty of the crime of murder?

At the time, I didn't think he was guilty of murder because I don't believe there was premeditation. Since then, it has come to light that he has some real issues so I wonder about it now.

What was he originally charged with? That didn't require a premeditation to convict did it? Either way, didn't they overcharge him, thereby making it next to impossible to convict?

I don't remember the original charge but I also seem to remember that they were over charging him.

I think he might have been found guilty of manslaughter if that was the original charge.

(02-04-2016 01:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  As much as you might find this offensive "Killing" is not a crime and, in some situations, is not even morally wrong. Therefore one is not "guilty" of it.

I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Then answer Bull's question and stop deflecting.

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Guilty of what?

I'll rephrase. Do you think the jury reached the right verdict?

Well?

Interesting....the top 2 stories on Yahoo (no where near a conservative outlet):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact...ns-server/

http://observer.com/2016/02/it-wasnt-jus...ys-emails/

I guess it's more that just us conservative on this small site that are considering the e-mails of Hillary newsworthy.

(02-04-2016 02:40 PM)Crebman Wrote:  Interesting....the top 2 stories on Yahoo (no where near a conservative outlet):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact...ns-server/

http://observer.com/2016/02/it-wasnt-jus...ys-emails/

I guess it's more that just us conservative on this small site that are considering the e-mails of Hillary newsworthy.

I think it has more to do with them afraid that Killary can't win the presidency. Do you really think the LibMedia would print anything malicious against a Democrat if they didn't have an agenda it's because they want Commie Sanders as the nominee.

(02-04-2016 02:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I never said he was guilty. I simply asked if anyone doubted whether or not he killed Trevon.

Then answer Bull's question and stop deflecting.

(02-04-2016 01:19 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  But you still think he is guilty, correct?

Guilty of what?

I'll rephrase. Do you think the jury reached the right verdict?

Well?

Fit before trial: Zimmerman is guilty of murder!

Fit after trial: I still think he's guilty of murder! The jury got it wrong!!

Fit now: I never said he was guilty.

(02-04-2016 08:54 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 02:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Then answer Bull's question and stop deflecting.

Guilty of what?

I'll rephrase. Do you think the jury reached the right verdict?

Well?

Fit before trial: Zimmerman is guilty of murder!

Fit after trial: I still think he's guilty of murder! The jury got it wrong!!

Fit now: I never said he was guilty.

(02-04-2016 08:54 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 02:24 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2016 01:32 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Then answer Bull's question and stop deflecting.

Guilty of what?

I'll rephrase. Do you think the jury reached the right verdict?

Well?

Fit before trial: Zimmerman is guilty of murder!

Fit after trial: I still think he's guilty of murder! The jury got it wrong!!

Fit now: I never said he was guilty.

I'm not going to put words in his mouth. Unfortunately that means we will never get an answer from him because he is unwilling to answer direct questions.