(01-29-2016 10:52 AM)mturn017 Wrote: (01-29-2016 09:19 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: So the porn industry will have to pay men the same as women? They will either go broke, or the women are about to take a huge pay cut.
Haha, nailed it.
But seriously, what a waste of money and resources. As someone mentioned there are a myriad of reasons someone could be being paid more that can't be determined through sifting through a database in DC. Women shouldn't be paid less for doing the same work because they are a woman. But if you're a woman and have been there for 6 months and the man next you has been with the company for 6 years and makes more, that's fair game.
It's worse than that. This nonsense has been bandied about for decades now, going back to at least 90-92 when I was part of a pretty exhaustive study on this stuff.
It's not addressing the guy and gal sitting two cubicles apart that do basically the same gig and she's not getting paid the same, that rarely happens (anymore) and is actionable already.
It's taking things like a LCSW, licensed clinical social worker, or some other alphabet credentials that require essentially a Masters level degree. She does pretty well after 10 years and is making say, 48 grand (?). (no idea what she would really make.) At the local Community services board, private practice, whatever.
Similarly, Jed has graduated HS, joined the local Fire department, along the way has taken a couple of credentialing things, on line maybe, Fire science degree, some seminar or weekend stuff to put some parchments up on the firehouse wall, whatever. After 10 years he's made his way up, has folks under his charge, but still has nothing approaching a Masters degree in the "real" sense. But, he's making 62.5k a year with some nice benefits, retirement etc.
The argument is- She has the higher level of education, they are in "equal or similar" jobs, have both done these jobs for the same length of time, she hasn't taken family time off, etc etc.
The "Equal pay for 'equal' work" mantra would then say, wait if she has this level education and has been in her field just as long as he has, she should be paid more.
Taken to other comparisons, who's going to make more? The Female teacher with the Masters of Music degree, 6 years higher ed or more and 15 years in the classroom, or the guy straight out of HS that takes a few additional classes, works hard, takes risks and becomes an underwater welder? She makes 50 grand, what should he make? If it's more, that's considered "unfair".
98% of jobs considered "high risk" are occupied by men. And no, watching after unruly High Schoolers isn't considered high risk. Running
into a burning building is high risk.
The majority of advanced degrees are now being earned/ awarded to females. Some will go into research fields and the like and command as much or more than their male counterparts. But a LOT of them still pursue, for a vast variety of reasons, fields traditionally female in nature, and those jobs simply don't pay as much.
It's not rocket surgery, really.
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