that is not a bad way to put it, 222,,, he is certainly their best option until porter learns and fully buys in or german arrives and can play some point minutes.........the strange thing is that he actually shot very very well all spring, summer and fall, but when the lights came on he has struggled.......no doubt his family tragedy plays into it somehow. and, nobody works or plays harder.

Agreed!

What is a problem though is you had a cupcake non conf schedule and that was not used to develop the freshman. Those wins really do not mean a whole lot, developing the youth on this team does. NIU can't get where it wants to go without the freshman making huge impacts. It is not ideal but it is the cards dealt

back to the topic, I actually hope Dontel does not play this year...I dont want to trade 4-5 games of his squeezing into this rotation for a sixth year with this freshman class and the incoming recruits.......I imagine him, as a 24 year old MAN, leading that group to the promised land in 2019

(01-23-2016 09:43 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  back to the topic, I actually hope Dontel does not play this year...I dont want to trade 4-5 games of his squeezing into this rotation for a sixth year with this freshman class and the incoming recruits.......I imagine him, as a 24 year old MAN, leading that group to the promised land in 2019

If he is ready he is ready. It's all a mental thing now and that won't be any better or easier to come back from next year. If dontel can go and he wants to he should play. Because the way things are trending with this offense NIU is not good enough to make a deep tourney run. It looks like NIU has a bright future but you never know how things will transpire in the future

It has been two years, he needs to play.

Apparently Dontel doesn't want a sixth year

(01-23-2016 09:13 PM)Michael James Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 09:02 PM)dekalb222 Wrote:  Last night was a good game for Orris: 1-6fg, 3rbs, 2pts, 3assists, 2turnovers, 2steals in 28minutes. Also, he played team defense.

That is NOT a good game.

If you don't think Orris played well last night, you don't know what you're watching.

(01-23-2016 09:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  What is a problem though is you had a cupcake non conf schedule and that was not used to develop the freshman. Those wins really do not mean a whole lot, developing the youth on this team does. NIU can't get where it wants to go without the freshman making huge impacts. It is not ideal but it is the cards dealt

Huh? What are you talking about with the non conf schedule? take a look at the minutes the freshmen got during those games and now the minutes they're getting in MAC play.

(01-24-2016 01:55 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 09:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  What is a problem though is you had a cupcake non conf schedule and that was not used to develop the freshman. Those wins really do not mean a whole lot, developing the youth on this team does. NIU can't get where it wants to go without the freshman making huge impacts. It is not ideal but it is the cards dealt

Huh? What are you talking about with the non conf schedule? take a look at the minutes the freshmen got during those games and now the minutes they're getting in MAC play.

That UIC is a great great example. A very very poor team that the youth could have learned a lot from in a close game, yet NIU's main plan of attack that game was to shorten the game as much as possible to survive it. It just seemed to me the main goal of the non-conf was to accumulate as many wins as possible without really thinking how things would build toward conference. For example I felt better about Wilson and Porter after game 7 than I do now. That probably is not a good thing.

what you feel is NEVER a good thing...or a rational thing...build toward conference? maybe I missed it..what is the conference record?

(01-24-2016 02:14 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 01:55 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 09:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  What is a problem though is you had a cupcake non conf schedule and that was not used to develop the freshman. Those wins really do not mean a whole lot, developing the youth on this team does. NIU can't get where it wants to go without the freshman making huge impacts. It is not ideal but it is the cards dealt

Huh? What are you talking about with the non conf schedule? take a look at the minutes the freshmen got during those games and now the minutes they're getting in MAC play.

That UIC is a great great example. A very very poor team that the youth could have learned a lot from in a close game, yet NIU's main plan of attack that game was to shorten the game as much as possible to survive it. It just seemed to me the main goal of the non-conf was to accumulate as many wins as possible without really thinking how things would build toward conference. For example I felt better about Wilson and Porter after game 7 than I do now. That probably is not a good thing.

I thought UIC was a very very scary good team that nearly took down Illinois?

(01-24-2016 10:33 AM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 02:14 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 01:55 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 09:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  What is a problem though is you had a cupcake non conf schedule and that was not used to develop the freshman. Those wins really do not mean a whole lot, developing the youth on this team does. NIU can't get where it wants to go without the freshman making huge impacts. It is not ideal but it is the cards dealt

Huh? What are you talking about with the non conf schedule? take a look at the minutes the freshmen got during those games and now the minutes they're getting in MAC play.

That UIC is a great great example. A very very poor team that the youth could have learned a lot from in a close game, yet NIU's main plan of attack that game was to shorten the game as much as possible to survive it. It just seemed to me the main goal of the non-conf was to accumulate as many wins as possible without really thinking how things would build toward conference. For example I felt better about Wilson and Porter after game 7 than I do now. That probably is not a good thing.

I thought UIC was a very very scary good team that nearly took down Illinois?

+1

Finding examples of MD02 (insert picture of Waffle) making conflicting statements, is like shooting ducks in a barrel.

UIC is 2-16 this yr. Not very scary, not very good.

(01-24-2016 11:43 AM)7huskie6 Wrote:  UIC is 2-16 this yr. Not very scary, not very good.

MD would worry if NIU were playing Cal Tech.

It doesn't really matter if UIC is good or bad...you need to beat Chicago area teams, and we only won by 5, so it wasn't a blow out.

Porter played terribly...he had 1 turnover and 3 fouls with 0 shots or anything productive. You think he should have played him more and lost the game because of it?

In the games that were blowouts against non-D1 teams...you'll see the majority of the freshmen play significant (15+) minutes. And Porter gets 20+ minutes in most of them, unless he gets himself in bad foul trouble. So MD, your comment was simply wrong. Let's move on.

I thought this thread was on Highsmith?

(01-24-2016 01:47 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  In the games that were blowouts against non-D1 teams...you'll see the majority of the freshmen play significant (15+) minutes. And Porter gets 20+ minutes in most of them, unless he gets himself in bad foul trouble. So MD, your comment was simply wrong. Let's move on.

That was kind of my point. The freshman did not much meaningful playing time in non conference. I just didn't see the point of a cupcake schedule unless you were going to develop youth. Because NIU is no going anywhere neAr dancing with the current distribution of minutes. It's nothing against Orris but in tournament play you can't rely on the opposing offense to have an off night 3 or 4 times in a row

(01-24-2016 04:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 01:47 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  In the games that were blowouts against non-D1 teams...you'll see the majority of the freshmen play significant (15+) minutes. And Porter gets 20+ minutes in most of them, unless he gets himself in bad foul trouble. So MD, your comment was simply wrong. Let's move on.

That was kind of my point. The freshman did not much meaningful playing time in non conference. I just didn't see the point of a cupcake schedule unless you were going to develop youth. Because NIU is no going anywhere neAr dancing with the current distribution of minutes. It's nothing against Orris but in tournament play you can't rely on the opposing offense to have an off night 3 or 4 times in a row

None of which has anything to do with Highsmith's status. Once again, as you always do, a thread has been highjacked.