(01-06-2016 02:29 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  B1G expansion into Texas is a fairytale anyways. People love to rant about the geographic obstacles of WVU and UConn but those same folks then turn around and say "oh yeah Texas would definantly travel 500 miles to play their nearest away game sans OU in Dallas.

I was going to point out that this is a very valid point that I am surprised has never been brought up. But then you went and did this...

(01-06-2016 02:29 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  If Texas wants to move the PAC-12 is by far their most logical destination, especially if that includes OU, OSU, and Tech.

How on Earth can you say the first part, then mention the second part with a straight face? Granted you did mention 3 friends coming along, but it wasn't even mandatory in your suggestion, just almost a bonus.

(01-06-2016 06:09 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  



Whom could ever forget the Pre Big East Football BC vs Miami finish in 1984 ?

Joined acc. Became dumpster fires

(01-06-2016 02:41 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 02:29 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  B1G expansion into Texas is a fairytale anyways. People love to rant about the geographic obstacles of WVU and UConn but those same folks then turn around and say "oh yeah Texas would definantly travel 500 miles to play their nearest away game sans OU in Dallas.

I was going to point out that this is a very valid point that I am surprised has never been brought up. But then you went and did this...

(01-06-2016 02:29 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  If Texas wants to move the PAC-12 is by far their most logical destination, especially if that includes OU, OSU, and Tech.

How on Earth can you say the first part, then mention the second part with a straight face? Granted you did mention 3 friends coming along, but it wasn't even mandatory in your suggestion, just almost a bonus.

Well you are right in that it does read that way. My thoughts are that Texas wouldn't move without bringing neighbors that give them reasonably close away games. It doesn't have to be Tech, OU, and OSU but since that deal almost happened once before it seemed to be most likely scenario was that they would be included in a move by Texas.

I'm very aware how far away the PAC is from UT and don't think UT would move there without some friends.

(01-06-2016 02:54 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 06:09 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  



Whom could ever forget the Pre Big East Football BC vs Miami finish in 1984 ?

Joined acc. Became dumpster fires

Not true. Going into this past season, BC was in the top half of the ACC in terms of W-L's since joining, including two Atlantic Division titles. Hardly sounds like a dumpster fire.

(01-06-2016 03:33 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 01:38 PM)connecticutguy Wrote:  Any conference would be be lucky to get UConn. The same can't be said for Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers etc.

Yep, that's why BC Rutgers and Syracuse are actually in Power 5 conferences and UConn isn't.

UConn is a great program. They just lack the history of BC, Syracuse, and Rutgers. For a program that is relatively new to the D1 scene, UConn has done a phenomenal job establishing its presence and territory.

(01-06-2016 03:39 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 03:33 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 01:38 PM)connecticutguy Wrote:  Any conference would be be lucky to get UConn. The same can't be said for Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers etc.

Yep, that's why BC Rutgers and Syracuse are actually in Power 5 conferences and UConn isn't.

UConn is a great program. They just lack the history of BC, Syracuse, and Rutgers. For a program that is relatively new to the D1 scene, UConn has done a phenomenal job establishing its presence and territory.

I agree, but you don't have to put down other programs to feel better about the one you root for.

(01-06-2016 04:11 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 03:39 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 03:33 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 01:38 PM)connecticutguy Wrote:  Any conference would be be lucky to get UConn. The same can't be said for Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers etc.

Yep, that's why BC Rutgers and Syracuse are actually in Power 5 conferences and UConn isn't.

UConn is a great program. They just lack the history of BC, Syracuse, and Rutgers. For a program that is relatively new to the D1 scene, UConn has done a phenomenal job establishing its presence and territory.

I agree, but you don't have to put down other programs to feel better about the one you root for.

Very true, especially when there is no OBJECTIVE evidence to support the OP's comparisons in the first place.

If the big 10 could pull in texas and OU to jump to 18, i would guess its 3 pods of 6 rather than 2 x 9.

East: IU, PUR, OSU, PSU, Rut, Mar
Central: UM, MSU, NW, ILL, WIS, MIN
West: Tex, OU, KU, Neb, Io, Missouri*

* Iowa State or Texas Tech would work if missouri doesn't jump. The other issue is if the big 10 can pull these school's, why not just raid the pac 12. They could add all members and jump to 30 or go to 28 and not pick up wash state and oreg state and go with 4 pods of 7 and 28 members. I do like the big 10 end game of jumping to 40 with 4 divisions of 10, with 1 division of original big 10 school's.

(01-06-2016 02:54 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 06:09 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  



Whom could ever forget the Pre Big East Football BC vs Miami finish in 1984 ?

Joined acc. Became dumpster fires

I keep finding myself in the strange situation of actually coming to the defense of BC, something that may cause the damnation of my very soul. :)



But, isn't this what a "dumpster fire" might really look like?


Memphis Yearly Results:


2000: 4-7-0

2001: 5-6-0

2002: 3-9-0

2003: 9-4-0

2004: 8-4-0

2005: 7-5-0

2006: 2-10-0

2007: 7-6-0

2008: 6-7-0

2009: 2-10-0

2010: 1-11-0

2011: 2-10-0

2012: 4-8-0

2013: 3-9-0

I have no real idea on the SOS involved here, but note that Memphis was a CUSA member during these years.


( Pot/kettle and "glass houses", perhaps, on the "dumpster fire" comment?)


2014: 10-3-0

2015: 9-4-0

The last two years have been pretty good, though.

(01-06-2016 04:39 PM)bluesox Wrote:  If the big 10 could pull in texas and OU to jump to 18, i would guess its 3 pods of 6 rather than 2 x 9.

East: IU, PUR, OSU, PSU, Rut, Mar
Central: UM, MSU, NW, ILL, WIS, MIN
West: Tex, OU, KU, Neb, Io, Missouri*

* Iowa State or Texas Tech would work if missouri doesn't jump. The other issue is if the big 10 can pull these school's, why not just raid the pac 12. They could add all members and jump to 30 or go to 28 and not pick up wash state and oreg state and go with 4 pods of 7 and 28 members. I do like the big 10 end game of jumping to 40 with 4 divisions of 10, with 1 division of original big 10 school's.

It that was the B1G's plan they wouldn't be pushing the "two divisions" amendment for the Conf. champ deregulation.

(01-05-2016 01:23 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(01-05-2016 12:58 PM)knightastic Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 07:21 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Houston scored a big win. It may put them over the top. I'm not saying one game is the swing, but when your options are as limited as they are, Houston is a solid bet. Large market, NFL stadium to host OU and UT. Not making travel more ridiculous unlike a BYU or a Florida school, and a better all around option than Memphis, which is a poor man's UL and an admission of defeat. Just solidify what you already have and make the new schools take a pay cut.

2013
replace Houston with UCF

twitter trolls love u guys

I never called for either USF/UCF to get in there alone/separate so look elsewhere.

Texas prefers UCF over Houston

USF & UCF. Pick up the I-4 corridor. Lots of growth and lots of alumni. Every big 12 school would get to play a Florida school every year. Travel partners for each other and WVU. Lots of TV sets & new markets. Makes to much dollars & cents.

(01-06-2016 04:39 PM)bluesox Wrote:  If the big 10 could pull in texas and OU to jump to 18, i would guess its 3 pods of 6 rather than 2 x 9.

East: IU, PUR, OSU, PSU, Rut, Mar
Central: UM, MSU, NW, ILL, WIS, MIN
West: Tex, OU, KU, Neb, Io, Missouri*

* Iowa State or Texas Tech would work if missouri doesn't jump. The other issue is if the big 10 can pull these school's, why not just raid the pac 12. They could add all members and jump to 30 or go to 28 and not pick up wash state and oreg state and go with 4 pods of 7 and 28 members. I do like the big 10 end game of jumping to 40 with 4 divisions of 10, with 1 division of original big 10 school's.

Iowa State is a fine school, but I can't imagine the B1G picking up a second institution in a relatively low-population state. No expansion of footprint, and few, if any, additional TV sets.

(01-06-2016 06:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 04:39 PM)bluesox Wrote:  If the big 10 could pull in texas and OU to jump to 18, i would guess its 3 pods of 6 rather than 2 x 9.

East: IU, PUR, OSU, PSU, Rut, Mar
Central: UM, MSU, NW, ILL, WIS, MIN
West: Tex, OU, KU, Neb, Io, Missouri*

* Iowa State or Texas Tech would work if missouri doesn't jump. The other issue is if the big 10 can pull these school's, why not just raid the pac 12. They could add all members and jump to 30 or go to 28 and not pick up wash state and oreg state and go with 4 pods of 7 and 28 members. I do like the big 10 end game of jumping to 40 with 4 divisions of 10, with 1 division of original big 10 school's.

Iowa State is a fine school, but I can't imagine the B1G picking up a second institution in a relatively low-population state. No expansion of footprint, and few, if any, additional TV sets.

Iowa State is stuck in its P5 conference.

They may as well vote to make it a good one with NIU, Memphis, Houston and UC joining its ranks.

Georgia Tech is on the Big 10's radar. Why? They want to stick it into the SEC at their heart since Atlanta is where the SEC plays their championship games. SEC could pull the trigger first by taken Georgia Tech, Clemson and Florida State on the east, and take Oklahoma for them to go to 18. It would keep the Big 10 out of their back yard. Than, the SEC could add Kansas, Cincinnati, NC State and Virginia Tech to go to 22.

Southeast SEC:
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Clemson
South Carolina

Gulf Coast:
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss.
Miss. State
Tennessee
LSU

North:
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
NC State
Virginia Tech
Cincinnati

West:
Missouri
Arkansas
Kansas
Oklahoma
Texas A&M

If you go to 24?

Add one more to the west like TCU and another to the north Louisville.

If the Sec is jumping to 24, they should get ESPN to shift 10 ACC school's into the SEC.


SEC

East: UVA, Vtech, UNC, Duke, Nc State, FSU, Clem, Scar

Central: UK, Lville, UT, Vandy, UGA, Gtech, UF, ND*

West: Ala, Aub, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Texas A&M, Ark, Missouri

put Miami in if you can't get a deal with ND.

Not sure if the SEC could get Duke, Virginia and North Carolina. Duke does have the same problems with Vanderbilt right now. I could put Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and Oklahoma as replacements. Not sure about having three Florida schools in the conference. TCU does have a better fan support than Miami right now.

East:
Virginia Tech, NC State, FSU, Clemson, South Carolina, Florida, Pittsburgh, Georgia

Central: Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville, Tennessee, Vandy, Cincinnati, Alabama, Auburn

West:Ole Miss., Miss. State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, TCU.
This line up is better than having Miami, Virginia, Duke and North Carolina. Notre Dame is ND.

(01-06-2016 04:43 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 02:54 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 06:09 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  



Whom could ever forget the Pre Big East Football BC vs Miami finish in 1984 ?

Joined acc. Became dumpster fires

I keep finding myself in the strange situation of actually coming to the defense of BC, something that may cause the damnation of my very soul. :)



But, isn't this what a "dumpster fire" might really look like?


Memphis Yearly Results:


2000: 4-7-0

2001: 5-6-0

2002: 3-9-0

2003: 9-4-0

2004: 8-4-0

2005: 7-5-0

2006: 2-10-0

2007: 7-6-0

2008: 6-7-0

2009: 2-10-0

2010: 1-11-0

2011: 2-10-0

2012: 4-8-0

2013: 3-9-0

I have no real idea on the SOS involved here, but note that Memphis was a CUSA member during these years.


( Pot/kettle and "glass houses", perhaps, on the "dumpster fire" comment?)


2014: 10-3-0

2015: 9-4-0

The last two years have been pretty good, though.

Difference is we never pretended not to be dumpster fire. The big easr football schools were always overated and without habing each other to play are now not even ranked. A whole conference of supposed p5 teams. Not one ranked. Its a joke. Much like notre dames annual over ranking and subsequent slaughter in big bowl games. Waste of time. After the first 5 mins against ohio stste, even with the rockhead getting ejected, everyone new the outcome. Tired of notre dame wasting spots in big bowls when they arent competitive. Glad yall lost close to supposed good teams. Stanford, meh, beating an awful iowa team doesnt make them great. Clemson. We shall see. I expect bama will beat them pretty bad. Maybe not like notre dame traditionally gets beatdown but a beatdown nonetheless

It is what it is. Year in year out overated wasting a spot for a beatdown. Tradition.

(01-06-2016 08:29 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 06:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 04:39 PM)bluesox Wrote:  If the big 10 could pull in texas and OU to jump to 18, i would guess its 3 pods of 6 rather than 2 x 9.

East: IU, PUR, OSU, PSU, Rut, Mar
Central: UM, MSU, NW, ILL, WIS, MIN
West: Tex, OU, KU, Neb, Io, Missouri*

* Iowa State or Texas Tech would work if missouri doesn't jump. The other issue is if the big 10 can pull these school's, why not just raid the pac 12. They could add all members and jump to 30 or go to 28 and not pick up wash state and oreg state and go with 4 pods of 7 and 28 members. I do like the big 10 end game of jumping to 40 with 4 divisions of 10, with 1 division of original big 10 school's.

Iowa State is a fine school, but I can't imagine the B1G picking up a second institution in a relatively low-population state. No expansion of footprint, and few, if any, additional TV sets.

Iowa State is stuck in its P5 conference.

They may as well vote to make it a good one with NIU, Memphis, Houston and UC joining its ranks.

I'm down, let's talk to Bowlsby and see what we can hash out

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(01-07-2016 01:05 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 08:29 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 06:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(01-06-2016 04:39 PM)bluesox Wrote:  If the big 10 could pull in texas and OU to jump to 18, i would guess its 3 pods of 6 rather than 2 x 9.

East: IU, PUR, OSU, PSU, Rut, Mar
Central: UM, MSU, NW, ILL, WIS, MIN
West: Tex, OU, KU, Neb, Io, Missouri*

* Iowa State or Texas Tech would work if missouri doesn't jump. The other issue is if the big 10 can pull these school's, why not just raid the pac 12. They could add all members and jump to 30 or go to 28 and not pick up wash state and oreg state and go with 4 pods of 7 and 28 members. I do like the big 10 end game of jumping to 40 with 4 divisions of 10, with 1 division of original big 10 school's.

Iowa State is a fine school, but I can't imagine the B1G picking up a second institution in a relatively low-population state. No expansion of footprint, and few, if any, additional TV sets.

Iowa State is stuck in its P5 conference.

They may as well vote to make it a good one with NIU, Memphis, Houston and UC joining its ranks.

I'm down, let's talk to Bowlsby and see what we can hash out

I'll get him on conference call tomorrow at 9:30am.

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