(12-22-2015 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 05:42 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  6 teams would be the champs of the 5 conferences plus an at large. Does make the 2/3 cutoff huge, though as the teams with bye would have a huge advantage.

For that reason, I think 8 is the next step.

8 is the next step because the P5 conferences will only vote to expand beyond 4 if they get autobids.

They could all have autobids with six.

(12-22-2015 02:36 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  I'd never heard about the 6 team playoff format. At least not from a person in power.

Wrong, Coach Patterson from TCU was the first to bring up the concept of a 6 team playoff. Well, at least he was the first "person of power" to do so.

(12-22-2015 05:42 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  6 teams would be the champs of the 5 conferences plus an at large. Does make the 2/3 cutoff huge, though as the teams with bye would have a huge advantage.

For that reason, I think 8 is the next step.

Then I guess you don't have much respect for the opinion of your own team's Head Coach.

(12-22-2015 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 05:42 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  6 teams would be the champs of the 5 conferences plus an at large. Does make the 2/3 cutoff huge, though as the teams with bye would have a huge advantage.

For that reason, I think 8 is the next step.

8 is the next step because the P5 conferences will only vote to expand beyond 4 if they get autobids.

No, 8 is not the next step, not anytime soon. They are not going to double up on the amount of teams. These people are not going to expand it that quickly or that much. They move more conservatively than that.

(12-22-2015 09:12 PM)ringmaster Wrote:  OP should edit the title to say something to the effect of: Texas AD reveals pressure to push the playoffs to 6. That's the big news here.

Not really big news here. TCU's head coach has said this before and I have used that as part of the explanations of my theories. As usual people ignore such because they don't like me and as usual the talking points move in the direction of what I tell you people is coming.

Someday all of you will learn.

Any expansion past four creates an extra game for at least one team. So that's DOA, unless they reduce the regular season or kill CCG's.

They could do away CCGs and do like the FCS. The top 8 teams get the bye on the first week of playoffs. You then take the champs of all 10 conferences, and any at large. The Big 10 could wind up with 3 of their teams with a bye on their first week this year.

(12-24-2015 12:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Any expansion past four creates an extra game for at least one team. So that's DOA, unless they reduce the regular season or kill CCG's.

Sorry but once again, those days are over. That absolutely used to be the case. They aren't so against these kinds of expansions anymore. The moment they are prepped and ready to expand their conference postseasons then they absolutely will and this imaginary ceiling of how many games they can play a season will be broken.

The same was said before the advent of the conference championship games.

(12-24-2015 02:03 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 12:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Any expansion past four creates an extra game for at least one team. So that's DOA, unless they reduce the regular season or kill CCG's.

Sorry but once again, those days are over. That absolutely used to be the case. They aren't so against these kinds of expansions anymore. The moment they are prepped and ready to expand their conference postseasons then they absolutely will and this imaginary ceiling of how many games they can play a season will be broken.

The same was said before the advent of the conference championship games.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Keep in mind lawsuits regarding student-athlete quality of life.

(12-24-2015 12:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Any expansion past four creates an extra game for at least one team. So that's DOA, unless they reduce the regular season or kill CCG's.

Extra game for 1 team. Hardly a deal killer. Even if 15 games were played by two teams it's being done already. Fcs level. Just excuses are being made.

(12-25-2015 08:22 AM)pablowow Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 12:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Any expansion past four creates an extra game for at least one team. So that's DOA, unless they reduce the regular season or kill CCG's.

Extra game for 1 team. Hardly a deal killer. Even if 15 games were played by two teams it's being done already. Fcs level. Just excuses are being made.

Some D2 schools as well went 15 games.

Some FCS did reached 16 games mark,

Schools have already begun dealing with the issue. Schools and conferences have been purchasing tickets and plane flights for family and parents of players so that they can come and watch these extra games. Some folks may think that is a small gesture but it is one that the players and their family are going to be strongly moved by. It's a smart move.

The dream would be 5 P5 champs, 2 at large, 1 highest ranked G5. This would give the Cinderellas a chance and every P5 conference would also be happy.

Or, 4 P4 champs, 1 at large and 1 highest ranked G5 which likely ends up being the AAC champ once they expand to 20 teams.

(12-25-2015 08:22 AM)pablowow Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 12:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Any expansion past four creates an extra game for at least one team. So that's DOA, unless they reduce the regular season or kill CCG's.

Extra game for 1 team. Hardly a deal killer. Even if 15 games were played by two teams it's being done already. Fcs level. Just excuses are being made.

FCS only plays 11 regular season games. And they don't play CCG's (the playoff confs).

So like I said, either chop off a regular season game for everyone in FBS (yeah right) or kill CCG's.

(12-25-2015 08:44 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Schools have already begun dealing with the issue. Schools and conferences have been purchasing tickets and plane flights for family and parents of players so that they can come and watch these extra games. Some folks may think that is a small gesture but it is one that the players and their family are going to be strongly moved by. It's a smart move.

Doubt that's going to play in court when Kessler et al are challenging that the NCAA doesn't do enough for student-athletes.

"But your honor, the NCAA just voted this year to add yet another game to the college football season!"

(12-30-2015 01:56 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 08:22 AM)pablowow Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 12:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Any expansion past four creates an extra game for at least one team. So that's DOA, unless they reduce the regular season or kill CCG's.

Extra game for 1 team. Hardly a deal killer. Even if 15 games were played by two teams it's being done already. Fcs level. Just excuses are being made.

FCS only plays 11 regular season games. And they don't play CCG's (the playoff confs).

So like I said, either chop off a regular season game for everyone in FBS (yeah right) or kill CCG's.

Well the latter won't happen because of conference tv contracts.

(12-30-2015 01:56 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 08:22 AM)pablowow Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 12:50 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Any expansion past four creates an extra game for at least one team. So that's DOA, unless they reduce the regular season or kill CCG's.

Extra game for 1 team. Hardly a deal killer. Even if 15 games were played by two teams it's being done already. Fcs level. Just excuses are being made.

FCS only plays 11 regular season games. And they don't play CCG's (the playoff confs).

So like I said, either chop off a regular season game for everyone in FBS (yeah right) or kill CCG's.

FYI. FCS conference are allowed to hold CCG, but they have to wrap up before week of the playoffs...which mostly could mean 10 games most of the times except for the years where the calendar will still all 11 regular season games.

(12-23-2015 03:52 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 03:43 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 05:42 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  6 teams would be the champs of the 5 conferences plus an at large. Does make the 2/3 cutoff huge, though as the teams with bye would have a huge advantage.

For that reason, I think 8 is the next step.

8 is the next step because the P5 conferences will only vote to expand beyond 4 if they get autobids.

Not going to happen, as that would be too many games for the two teams that stagger into the championship.

12 + CCG + 3 CFP bracket? Nope.

And you can't take away regular season games from everyone else, just to benefit eight teams.


All you can do is get rid of CCG, I guess.

The push to 8 would need to cut the regular season to 11 games. Which I think would be fine by most schools. it would be equivalent to the amount the FCS final teams play with the exception of a team from the first round which would push it to 16.
If they did have the side benefit is that the bowls would have teams with winning records.

No way are the Big schools going to cut the schedule to 11 games. That one game would cost each of them upwards of $5 million

(12-22-2015 02:36 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  I'd never heard about the 6 team playoff format. At least not from a person in power.

Where have you been? Not only people in power, but the talking heads on ESPN have discussed it. Just a couple of days ago Mike Belotti suggested it will be the next step.

(12-30-2015 04:11 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 03:52 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 03:43 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 05:42 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  6 teams would be the champs of the 5 conferences plus an at large. Does make the 2/3 cutoff huge, though as the teams with bye would have a huge advantage.

For that reason, I think 8 is the next step.

8 is the next step because the P5 conferences will only vote to expand beyond 4 if they get autobids.

Not going to happen, as that would be too many games for the two teams that stagger into the championship.

12 + CCG + 3 CFP bracket? Nope.

And you can't take away regular season games from everyone else, just to benefit eight teams.


All you can do is get rid of CCG, I guess.

The push to 8 would need to cut the regular season to 11 games. Which I think would be fine by most schools. it would be equivalent to the amount the FCS final teams play with the exception of a team from the first round which would push it to 16.
If they did have the side benefit is that the bowls would have teams with winning records.

No way are the Big schools going to cut the schedule to 11 games. That one game would cost each of them upwards of $5 million

That would be more than made up by the playoff amount that seems to be increased from the expanded field. Guarantee that the Big Schools will give up the home game for an auto-bid to the playoff if that was the choice.

(12-30-2015 01:57 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 08:44 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Schools have already begun dealing with the issue. Schools and conferences have been purchasing tickets and plane flights for family and parents of players so that they can come and watch these extra games. Some folks may think that is a small gesture but it is one that the players and their family are going to be strongly moved by. It's a smart move.

Doubt that's going to play in court when Kessler et al are challenging that the NCAA doesn't do enough for student-athletes.

"But your honor, the NCAA just voted this year to add yet another game to the college football season!"

Your point would be decent if it was the only thing happening. It isn't though, alas your point is limited.

(12-30-2015 05:14 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 01:57 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-25-2015 08:44 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Schools have already begun dealing with the issue. Schools and conferences have been purchasing tickets and plane flights for family and parents of players so that they can come and watch these extra games. Some folks may think that is a small gesture but it is one that the players and their family are going to be strongly moved by. It's a smart move.

Doubt that's going to play in court when Kessler et al are challenging that the NCAA doesn't do enough for student-athletes.

"But your honor, the NCAA just voted this year to add yet another game to the college football season!"

Your point would be decent if it was the only thing happening. It isn't though, alas your point is limited.

It would be the trump point.

What's the NCAA going to respond with? "Well ... yeah ... but, we allowed schools to provide full cost of attendance scholarships!"