http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-confere...=si_social

• BYU: The Cougars football program, which plays as an independent, has the most resonance of any available school. BYU has a national following and a decorated history that includes star quarterbacks Jim McMahon, Steve Young and Ty Detmer. There are issues with BYU, such as the BYUtv network, tough geography and some finicky logistics that come with not playing on Sundays. But those problems can likely be resolved, as BYU has an increased desire to join the league because of the yawning perception gap between the Power Five and everyone else. BYU realizes it won't be treated like Notre Dame as an independent, so this seems like the most logical move for both sides.

• Cincinnati: The Bearcats' best selling point is that West Virginia needs a friend and neighbor, and Cincinnati is just over 300 miles from Morgantown. The Bearcats offer the Cincinnati media market, a recruiting toehold in Ohio and strong recent success. The Bearcats have seven nine-win seasons since 2007 and played in the Orange and Sugar bowls in '08 and '09. Market and geography could win out.

• Connecticut: UConn came up in a surprising number of conversations considering its geography, lack of relevant football history and void of local recruiting. UConn would be attractive in a scenario in which the league adds a cable network, as it theoretically could bring a lot of eyeballs in the Northeast. The strong academics and basketball program would also be assets, as would the notion of the Big 12 adding a flagship state school. But if the conversation inevitably turns back to football, UConn wouldn't cut it.

• Colorado State: This would be another play for TV markets, as Colorado State would theoretically bring Denver. It would also help if the Big 12 adds BYU, giving the league a distinct footprint in the Mountain Time Zone. Colorado State's biggest problem is West Virginia, as the feeling within the league is that the Mountaineers have been good members and deserve a neighbor.

• Houston: To put it bluntly, the Texas schools in the Big 12 don't want to prop up another school located in the heart of their state's most fertile recruiting base. That line of thinking would likely win out over Houston's overall football potential, which is vast. There is surprisingly little momentum for the Cougars, as the prevailing thought is that the Big 12 already has a significant presence in the Houston TV market.

• Central Florida and South Florida: Considering the ripe markets (Orlando and Tampa) and boundless football potential, there is strikingly little momentum for these schools. Things could change, but neither is in the serious discussion now. (Someday, if the league goes to 14 teams, they might get more consideration.)

• Memphis: Memphis had some buzz for a while, as it features a solid television market and recruiting base. Ultimately, though, the football program isn't developed enough and better academic schools are available.

• Tulane: The New Orleans market would be attractive, as would the university's academic reputation. But the distinct lack of notable football history and the shadow of LSU have stalled Tulane's candidacy.

(12-29-2015 10:46 AM)Galilee Wrote:  http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-confere...=si_social

• BYU: The Cougars football program, which plays as an independent, has the most resonance of any available school. BYU has a national following and a decorated history that includes star quarterbacks Jim McMahon, Steve Young and Ty Detmer. There are issues with BYU, such as the BYUtv network, tough geography and some finicky logistics that come with not playing on Sundays. But those problems can likely be resolved, as BYU has an increased desire to join the league because of the yawning perception gap between the Power Five and everyone else. BYU realizes it won't be treated like Notre Dame as an independent, so this seems like the most logical move for both sides.

• Cincinnati: The Bearcats' best selling point is that West Virginia needs a friend and neighbor, and Cincinnati is just over 300 miles from Morgantown. The Bearcats offer the Cincinnati media market, a recruiting toehold in Ohio and strong recent success. The Bearcats have seven nine-win seasons since 2007 and played in the Orange and Sugar bowls in '08 and '09. Market and geography could win out.

• Connecticut: UConn came up in a surprising number of conversations considering its geography, lack of relevant football history and void of local recruiting. UConn would be attractive in a scenario in which the league adds a cable network, as it theoretically could bring a lot of eyeballs in the Northeast. The strong academics and basketball program would also be assets, as would the notion of the Big 12 adding a flagship state school. But if the conversation inevitably turns back to football, UConn wouldn't cut it.

• Colorado State: This would be another play for TV markets, as Colorado State would theoretically bring Denver. It would also help if the Big 12 adds BYU, giving the league a distinct footprint in the Mountain Time Zone. Colorado State's biggest problem is West Virginia, as the feeling within the league is that the Mountaineers have been good members and deserve a neighbor.

• Houston: To put it bluntly, the Texas schools in the Big 12 don't want to prop up another school located in the heart of their state's most fertile recruiting base. That line of thinking would likely win out over Houston's overall football potential, which is vast. There is surprisingly little momentum for the Cougars, as the prevailing thought is that the Big 12 already has a significant presence in the Houston TV market.

• Central Florida and South Florida: Considering the ripe markets (Orlando and Tampa) and boundless football potential, there is strikingly little momentum for these schools. Things could change, but neither is in the serious discussion now. (Someday, if the league goes to 14 teams, they might get more consideration.)

• Memphis: Memphis had some buzz for a while, as it features a solid television market and recruiting base. Ultimately, though, the football program isn't developed enough and better academic schools are available.

• Tulane: The New Orleans market would be attractive, as would the university's academic reputation. But the distinct lack of notable football history and the shadow of LSU have stalled Tulane's candidacy.

Already pointed out that he has no idea what he is talking about. Bowlsby already stated there is no chance that they go west. This guy has no connections.

And doesn't understand why FedEx and AutoZone matter

Newsflash.

(12-29-2015 11:03 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Already pointed out that he has no idea what he is talking about. Bowlsby already stated there is no chance that they go west. This guy has no connections.

HERE >

http://csnbbs.com/thread-764439-page-3.html

and

HERE >

http://csnbbs.com/thread-763569-page-13.html

BYU is always going to be a sexy candidate for expansion talk but logistics and scheduling limitations seem to always supersede their perceived value.

Just look at the inconsistency of the criteria he uses for his rankings. For some schools he uses location, for some academics, for some football reputation, for some market size, and so on. However, he does not consistently apply those factors to all schools. That article, and its lack of consistency and logic, reads like it was wrote by a Middle School kid.

Probably better than 50 50 chance they don't add anybody!!

Let's talk about it all over again in yet another thread.

(12-29-2015 02:29 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Let's talk about it all over again in yet another thread.

Or we can continually whine about it instead of simply not opening and reopening...

What some claims that people made. That Big 12 does not have a major internet market. Or that they should look at Northern Idaho. And where is all this talk of UConn originating?

One person just suggested SDSU. LOL

Utah Population 2.9 million.....3 major schools Utah, Utah State, BYU. There are also 3 other Div 1 colleges in Utah to divide up the pie.

Memphis Metro Area Population 1.4 million. One university.....you could add Ole Miss but it is really more of a neighboring state university than a Memphis University.

(12-29-2015 12:48 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  Just look at the inconsistency of the criteria he uses for his rankings. For some schools he uses location, for some academics, for some football reputation, for some market size, and so on. However, he does not consistently apply those factors to all schools. That article, and its lack of consistency and logic, reads like it was wrote by a Middle School kid.

*written

(12-29-2015 04:13 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Utah Population 2.9 million.....3 major schools Utah, Utah State, BYU. There are also 3 other Div 1 colleges in Utah to divide up the pie.

Memphis Metro Area Population 1.4 million. One university.....you could add Ole Miss but it is really more of a neighboring state university than a Memphis University.

Total Mormon population of the United States, 6.1 million. 2 million in Utah alone, with sizable populations in California (750k), Idaho (400k), Arizona (400k), Texas (325k), Washington (275k), Nevada (175k) Oregon (150k), Colorado (150k), and Florida (150K).

Memphis more or less splits its interests between Memphis, Tennessee, and Ole Miss, and has pretty good sized Mississippi State, Alabama, and Arkansas fan bases as well.

(12-29-2015 05:20 PM)Timmy989 Wrote:  

(12-29-2015 12:48 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  Just look at the inconsistency of the criteria he uses for his rankings. For some schools he uses location, for some academics, for some football reputation, for some market size, and so on. However, he does not consistently apply those factors to all schools. That article, and its lack of consistency and logic, reads like it was wrote by a Middle School kid.

*written

(12-29-2015 05:33 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(12-29-2015 04:13 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Utah Population 2.9 million.....3 major schools Utah, Utah State, BYU. There are also 3 other Div 1 colleges in Utah to divide up the pie.

Memphis Metro Area Population 1.4 million. One university.....you could add Ole Miss but it is really more of a neighboring state university than a Memphis University.

Total Mormon population of the United States, 6.1 million. 2 million in Utah alone, with sizable populations in California (750k), Idaho (400k), Arizona (400k), Texas (325k), Washington (275k), Nevada (175k) Oregon (150k), Colorado (150k), and Florida (150K).

Memphis more or less splits its interests between Memphis, Tennessee, and Ole Miss, and has pretty good sized Mississippi State, Alabama, and Arkansas fan bases as well.

The BYU Mormon thing is kind of interesting but....if it was true.....then Notre Dame would have every Catholic and Irishman in the country rooting for them....and they don't. My take on it is that Utah and Utah State, Weber State, Hawaii, etc have Mormons going there too and they would love to see BYU lose. There are many ways of looking at things. Here is an article on colleges and LDS students that is a real eye opener. Univ of Texas and Arizona State.....who would have thunk it. http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/200...e-mormons/

(12-29-2015 03:17 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  One person just suggested SDSU. LOL

The AAC wanted them once.

And they have a pretty good coverage area from what I remember seeing one it those maps awhile back.