(12-22-2015 12:46 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Owl. I can't believe you actually believe that. If so you might want to share your ideas with any political opponent of Hillary. If they could have used it they would have. This is birther swift boating at its finest.

I absolutely believe precisely that.

I don't think you understand the severity of what she did. You're looking at it through the lens of an ordinary citizen, whereas the national security establishment plays by a vastly different set of rules, and requires everyone who comes in possession of classified information to live by those rules.

Perhaps it might help to think of the legal standard that you would be held to in rendering first aid to the legal standard a surgeon is held to in the operating room.

If she put information about the whereabouts of our ambassador to Libya prior to Benghazi on the server, or sent it over an uncovered email link, there's actually an argument that it's a capital offense. You don't joke around with national security.

And if she fired the shot that killed Vince Foster....c'mon man. Ridiculous!

You really don't get it.

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No He does, but He needs an alternative to Bernie just in case.

(12-22-2015 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And if she fired the shot that killed Vince Foster....c'mon man. Ridiculous!

No, it's absolutely not ridiculous, and you are showing ignorance by acting as if it is.

And where did I say anything about Vince Foster? Oh, yeah, that's right, I didn't.

Red and Mach went up the hill to fetch a pail of water...

(12-22-2015 12:46 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Owl. I can't believe you actually believe that. If so you might want to share your ideas with any political opponent of Hillary. If they could have used it they would have. This is birther swift boating at its finest.

I absolutely believe precisely that.

I don't think you understand the severity of what she did. You're looking at it through the lens of an ordinary citizen, whereas the national security establishment plays by a vastly different set of rules, and requires everyone who comes in possession of classified information to live by those rules.

Perhaps it might help to think of the legal standard that you would be held to in rendering first aid to the legal standard a surgeon is held to in the operating room.

If she put information about the whereabouts of our ambassador to Libya prior to Benghazi on the server, or sent it over an uncovered email link, there's actually an argument that it's a capital offense. You don't joke around with national security.

And if she fired the shot that killed Vince Foster....c'mon man. Ridiculous!

You really don't get it.

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I feel that Tom is intelligent enough that he gets it. He's just got to do what he does

Kaplony. Is that an engine from your firehouse? If so, too freaking funny to actually take the picture to use it on here. Just one day at the firehouse and think that's a great pic to use in a thread.

Stop focusing on me you ignorant pricks. Defend your ******* position or just shut the **** up. I don't give a **** who you carry water for and I don't point it out every ******* minute in every ******* thread.

(12-22-2015 02:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And if she fired the shot that killed Vince Foster....c'mon man. Ridiculous!

No, it's absolutely not ridiculous, and you are showing ignorance by acting as if it is.

And where did I say anything about Vince Foster? Oh, yeah, that's right, I didn't.

No dumb***, you just implied that she left the location of Stevens on an open channel and got him killed.

Quote:If she put information about the whereabouts of our ambassador to Libya prior to Benghazi on the server, or sent it over an uncovered email link, there's actually an argument that it's a capital offense. You don't joke around with national security.

Too late to back track now...so just do your usual and ignore it. Typical for you.

(12-22-2015 03:57 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Kaplony. Is that an engine from your firehouse? If so, too freaking funny to actually take the picture to use it on here. Just one day at the firehouse and think that's a great pic to use in a thread.

No, it's evidently from PA somewhere. It's just a pic I chose off Google to be the graphic representation of Red Tom's entire posting career. It's red and it totes a lot of water just like Tom.

My department was covered primarily by fire hydrants every 500-1000 feet so we didn't have many tankers, and certainly none like that. That apparatus is for an area where they don't have hydrants and have to haul it from miles away. There were only two very small areas in our coverage area where there wasn't a water source within two miles. It's sole use is to supply lots of water. Ours were smaller and typically carried most of the same equipment as an engine so that they could be used as such in a pinch.

Personally I only served in an area that used tankers either when I was working overtime or at the end of my career when I requested a transfer to a slower station in a vain attempt to prolong my career. I spent most of my career in urban low income stations because that's where the work was at. Other than a handful of calls I ran working OT the majority of my experience operating a tanker came from training. I much prefer laying a couple hundred feet of supply line from a hydrant and having constant water.

(12-22-2015 04:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 03:57 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Kaplony. Is that an engine from your firehouse? If so, too freaking funny to actually take the picture to use it on here. Just one day at the firehouse and think that's a great pic to use in a thread.

No, it's evidently from PA somewhere. It's just a pic I chose off Google to be the graphic representation of Red Tom's entire posting career. It's red and it totes a lot of water just like Tom.

Who the **** cares you miserable piece of ****? If you don't like it, put me on ignore and stop reading what I post.

Again, I don't give a **** that you carry the water all day long for the conservative cause. Nobody cares. Why the **** do you care that I carry it for the liberal cause?

I'm sick and tired of being asked to apologize for it and I'm done, so just go **** yourself. Okay?

Tom I'm sorry if my post to Kaplony caused that. I just found it funny. Merry Christmas to you my friend. You're a good man Tom.

(12-22-2015 04:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 04:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 03:57 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Kaplony. Is that an engine from your firehouse? If so, too freaking funny to actually take the picture to use it on here. Just one day at the firehouse and think that's a great pic to use in a thread.

No, it's evidently from PA somewhere. It's just a pic I chose off Google to be the graphic representation of Red Tom's entire posting career. It's red and it totes a lot of water just like Tom.

Who the **** cares you miserable piece of ****? If you don't like it, put me on ignore and stop reading what I post.

Again, I don't give a **** that you carry the water all day long for the conservative cause. Nobody cares. Why the **** do you care that I carry it for the liberal cause?

I'm sick and tired of being asked to apologize for it and I'm done, so just go **** yourself. Okay?

(12-22-2015 04:32 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 04:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 04:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 03:57 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Kaplony. Is that an engine from your firehouse? If so, too freaking funny to actually take the picture to use it on here. Just one day at the firehouse and think that's a great pic to use in a thread.

No, it's evidently from PA somewhere. It's just a pic I chose off Google to be the graphic representation of Red Tom's entire posting career. It's red and it totes a lot of water just like Tom.

Who the **** cares you miserable piece of ****? If you don't like it, put me on ignore and stop reading what I post.

Again, I don't give a **** that you carry the water all day long for the conservative cause. Nobody cares. Why the **** do you care that I carry it for the liberal cause?

I'm sick and tired of being asked to apologize for it and I'm done, so just go **** yourself. Okay?

Nah, the best way to handle it is to do this




It's just like with my kids....when they get pissed it's usually because you've hit a nerve with the truth.

(12-22-2015 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Owl. I can't believe you actually believe that. If so you might want to share your ideas with any political opponent of Hillary. If they could have used it they would have. This is birther swift boating at its finest.

I absolutely believe precisely that.

I don't think you understand the severity of what she did. You're looking at it through the lens of an ordinary citizen, whereas the national security establishment plays by a vastly different set of rules, and requires everyone who comes in possession of classified information to live by those rules.

Perhaps it might help to think of the legal standard that you would be held to in rendering first aid to the legal standard a surgeon is held to in the operating room.

If she put information about the whereabouts of our ambassador to Libya prior to Benghazi on the server, or sent it over an uncovered email link, there's actually an argument that it's a capital offense. You don't joke around with national security.

And if she fired the shot that killed Vince Foster....c'mon man. Ridiculous!

Well, by doing what she did she is either extremely ignorant or criminal. Which is it?

(12-22-2015 04:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Stop focusing on me you ignorant pricks. Defend your ******* position or just shut the **** up. I don't give a **** who you carry water for and I don't point it out every ******* minute in every ******* thread.

Someone get a mechanic. Red just blew a gasket.

Ha, ha, that outburst is epic. Wowie.

(12-22-2015 04:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Tom I'm sorry if my post to Kaplony caused that. I just found it funny. Merry Christmas to you my friend. You're a good man Tom.

No...Hell...they don't need any incentive or help. It just comes naturally to them.

(12-22-2015 04:36 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Owl. I can't believe you actually believe that. If so you might want to share your ideas with any political opponent of Hillary. If they could have used it they would have. This is birther swift boating at its finest.

I absolutely believe precisely that.

I don't think you understand the severity of what she did. You're looking at it through the lens of an ordinary citizen, whereas the national security establishment plays by a vastly different set of rules, and requires everyone who comes in possession of classified information to live by those rules.

Perhaps it might help to think of the legal standard that you would be held to in rendering first aid to the legal standard a surgeon is held to in the operating room.

If she put information about the whereabouts of our ambassador to Libya prior to Benghazi on the server, or sent it over an uncovered email link, there's actually an argument that it's a capital offense. You don't joke around with national security.

And if she fired the shot that killed Vince Foster....c'mon man. Ridiculous!

Well, by doing what she did she is either extremely ignorant or criminal. Which is it?

Not certain it was either yet. And the investigation by the FBI is still on going isn't it? So we don't know on the criminal portion yet.

That being said, yes, she should have never set up that situation in the first place, but as far as it being the most egregious thing...we'll see. Most of the stuff shown so far is still being debated between agencies as to what was actually classified and when that classification actually took place.

Post #36 is why Tom is an all star. He posts reason and he is tanker 61 by putting out all of the fires of the lies and deceit. He's the fireman all right. Tanker 61!

(12-22-2015 05:40 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Post #36 is why Tom is an all star. He posts reason and he is tanker 61 by putting out all of the fires of the lies and deceit. He's the fireman all right. Tanker 61!

Ha, ha, I'll bet not even you believe this. LOL

(12-22-2015 05:44 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(12-22-2015 05:40 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Post #36 is why Tom is an all star. He posts reason and he is tanker 61 by putting out all of the fires of the lies and deceit. He's the fireman all right. Tanker 61!

Ha, ha, I'll bet not even you believe this. LOL

You see dude...this is where you're supposed to logically state what I got wrong or what your take on the situation is.

Instead...you immediately jump on the personal view of Mach and basically call him disingenuous.

Jeez Tom, you and ucf call me names and liar left and right and when I tell either of you to go **** yourselfs, you run and report. I get warnings left and right for **** you two do all day. Maybe you guys get some warnings but you don't because I get butthurt and cry to the mommies. Them balls ever gonna drop? And stop the bs about you tried to abide by the rules. Your whoppers are as big as Cankles.