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(Yesterday 11:41 AM)JCMiner Wrote:
Just being honest but C-USA is behind the AAC and MWC in football. Both conference have played and won multiple BCS/New Year's Bowl. Until we win one or at least play for one we will remain behind them.
And last year was a different story... And the year before that a different story from that one.
Unless one GROUP (not just one school) In a conference proves consistency, you cannot say one conference is better than another.
I really don't want to do this because I don't want to bring bad publicity to our conference. Using
RealTimeRpi I went back the last 12 years (that's as far back as it goes) and not once did C-USA finish ranked the best of the "G5". The MW finished #1 seven of the twelve years. Once they finished ahead of the Pac 10 and another time ahead of the Big East. The WAC which is no longer in existence finished #1 three times. The AAC has Finished #1 in two of their three seasons alive.
Still we don't have a BCS/New Year's Bowl Appearance. The MW has Five appearances and four victories. The WAC once again rest in peace had three appearances and two wins. Both teams that played in BCS games for the WAC are now part of the MWC. The AAC in three years has two appearances with one victory and a shot to go two for two on New Years. How you don't believe C-USA is behind the MW and AAC is beyond me.
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Any team that wouldn't jump at a chance to move to one of those conferences is foolish.
And after you move, what do you do if the conference you left got better? DO you move back?
Doesn't work that way. You move if _all_ the dominoes go the right way (Travel, income, exposure, etc. vs. financial costs for moving).
Has that ever happened? I can't find an instance where a team left a conference behind only for the conference they left to get better. I have seen the opposite. TCU left C-USA and won two BCS bowls in the MW. Boise St left the WAC and won a New Years Bowl in the MW. UCF left C-USA and they won a NYB. Houston the same.
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While we have some good football teams we lack the name brand recognition. Two years ago an undefeated Marshall was behind a two loss Boise team in the CFP rankings.
Again, SOS has not helped Marshall in that regard, not to mention that any ranking system is flawed in that regard... Again, "Name brand" is seen as 'better' than talent on the field many times in the past, there's absolutely nothing you can do about that far often, regardless of whomever you are.
Exactly the SOS is key. Boise St was fortunate that two ooc teams they scheduled BYU and Lafayette were having a good year and finished ranked in the top 50. But they also reaped the rewards of playing higher ranked teams in conference.
The conference schedule really benefited Boise St. They played three teams in the top 40. While Marshall only played one in the top 50. Even if Marshall had beaten WKU the Access Bowl was going to go to a 2 loss MW team instead of an undefeated Marshall. The big Key is that once conference play started Boise faced better teams than Marshall did.
Boise Conference games (RPI)
#30,#32,#39,#68,#77,#89,#89,#95,#105
Marshall Conference games
#45,#54,#59,#78,#82,#85,#106,#133,#128
While in some instances the MW teams might only be ahead by a few RPI points it's when you add them all up that the difference in sos is acquired.
Once again I'm just being honest and evaluating the numbers through the years. The MW has won big important games and earned the right to have the inside track to the New Year's Bowl. The AAC in it's short existence already has two #1 best of G5 titles and two NY bowls. It's accumulative history and accomplishments that places them ahead of us. They have it we don't. You can thank UTEP, USM and possibly WKU for us never participating in the big boy stage. Our claim to fame is that last year we finished in second place ahead of the AAC.
I wish I could find information before 2003 to see how C-USA used to be compared to the others but it seems like it has been forever erased from the internet.
I want our conference to succeed and be considered the best of the G5 but I am also realistic and give credit to where it's due.