(12-09-2015 10:26 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:19 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 09:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 06:05 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  No one is questioning FSU's roster, I'm sure they're a fine team... I wouldn't for one minute however overlook Houston in this game if I'm the opponent.

Should be a very good Peach Bowl game.

FSU obviously has more talent but Houston's talent is pretty good and Houston has better coaching so it will be worth tuning in for.

The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

Not really.

A third of the AAC is going to be better coached in 2016. I can see Houston losing two games next year.

Are they in the running for the 2016/2017 NY6 bowl? Oh hell yes. They're going to have a good team.

Saying if they run the table-(I know it's doubtful) I know they play us-(Louisville) at home next year-(and Louisville will return probably 16 out of 22 Starters including the entire Offense)...they will have the schedule if they run the table to post an argument.

A few things would have to happen:

1. Tulane must go 4-0 in non-conference play (SOS). Tulane's toughest opponent is Wake Forest. A bad Tulane team would hurt Houston's profile.
2. Tulsa must go at least 3-1 in non-conference play (SOS). The Ohio State loss must be by single digits.
3. SMU must win a P5 game. SMU's SOS will be very strong, but they have to steal a game to make them a credible win in the eyes of the committee.
4. The AAC West must dominate the AAC East.
5. Memphis needs a road win at Ole Miss and a top 20 ranking - again.
6. Houston will then be required to flawlessly run this gauntlet and go 12-0. The Louisville win must be a dominating one.

If Houston EVER enters the top 10, then they will have to thank the AAC West.

This sounds super dumb... ...but Tulane, Tulsa, and SMU will be the schools that elevate Houston.

(12-09-2015 10:26 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:19 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 09:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 06:05 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  No one is questioning FSU's roster, I'm sure they're a fine team... I wouldn't for one minute however overlook Houston in this game if I'm the opponent.

Should be a very good Peach Bowl game.

FSU obviously has more talent but Houston's talent is pretty good and Houston has better coaching so it will be worth tuning in for.

The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

Not really.

A third of the AAC is going to be better coached in 2016. I can see Houston losing two games next year.

Are they in the running for the 2016/2017 NY6 bowl? Oh hell yes. They're going to have a good team.

Saying if they run the table-(I know it's doubtful) I know they play us-(Louisville) at home next year-(and Louisville will return probably 17 out of 22 Starters including the entire Offense)...they will have the schedule if they run the table to post an argument.

Our first game next year is vs Oklahoma. If we run the table we are almost a lock for the playoff. But that is a pretty big IF

(12-09-2015 11:26 AM)IAH Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:26 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:19 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 09:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  FSU obviously has more talent but Houston's talent is pretty good and Houston has better coaching so it will be worth tuning in for.

The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

Not really.

A third of the AAC is going to be better coached in 2016. I can see Houston losing two games next year.

Are they in the running for the 2016/2017 NY6 bowl? Oh hell yes. They're going to have a good team.

Saying if they run the table-(I know it's doubtful) I know they play us-(Louisville) at home next year-(and Louisville will return probably 17 out of 22 Starters including the entire Offense)...they will have the schedule if they run the table to post an argument.

Our first game next year is vs Oklahoma. If we run the table we are almost a lock for the playoff. But that is a pretty big IF

Well...if anything you have the schedule next year "IF" you run the table...fully expect Temple and USF to be very good and Top 25ish teams from the AAC East if you go 12-0 heading into that game.

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 09:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 06:05 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 05:41 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  Should be an interesting game. However I expect FSU's speed and athleticism to eventually wear our Houston. FSU is no Memphis or any other AAC team

No one is questioning FSU's roster, I'm sure they're a fine team... I wouldn't for one minute however overlook Houston in this game if I'm the opponent.

Should be a very good Peach Bowl game.

FSU obviously has more talent but Houston's talent is pretty good and Houston has better coaching so it will be worth tuning in for.

The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

I'd say we'd have to look at their OOC schedule.

To make it to the playoffs, I would think any G5 would need to play at least one, maybe two, games against highly-rated P5. Like Navy and Temple did with Notre Dame and Memphis did with Ole Miss.

(12-09-2015 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

I'd say we'd have to look at their OOC schedule.

To make it to the playoffs, I would think any G5 would need to play at least one, maybe two, games against highly-rated P5. Like Navy and Temple did with Notre Dame and Memphis did with Ole Miss.

2016: Oklahoma, Louisville, Texas State (the gimme "hopefully".... see 2012), and Lamar.

2 Strong P5 games (yes both in Houston) and Texas State. Lamar will get bought out. The question is who replaces them?

Another so-so team and our OOC is good but not great. Add a mid level P5 or strong G5 team (not saying Boise but something like that) and our OOC is as good as you get outside the P5.

(12-09-2015 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 09:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 06:05 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 05:41 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  Should be an interesting game. However I expect FSU's speed and athleticism to eventually wear our Houston. FSU is no Memphis or any other AAC team

No one is questioning FSU's roster, I'm sure they're a fine team... I wouldn't for one minute however overlook Houston in this game if I'm the opponent.

Should be a very good Peach Bowl game.

FSU obviously has more talent but Houston's talent is pretty good and Houston has better coaching so it will be worth tuning in for.

The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

I'd say we'd have to look at their OOC schedule.

To make it to the playoffs, I would think any G5 would need to play at least one, maybe two, games against highly-rated P5. Like Navy and Temple did with Notre Dame and Memphis did with Ole Miss.

Or you could just read previous posts. :)

(12-09-2015 12:24 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

I'd say we'd have to look at their OOC schedule.

To make it to the playoffs, I would think any G5 would need to play at least one, maybe two, games against highly-rated P5. Like Navy and Temple did with Notre Dame and Memphis did with Ole Miss.

2016: Oklahoma, Louisville, Texas State (the gimme "hopefully".... see 2012), and Lamar.

Playing Louisville is worth nothing (it wasn't worth anything to you this year, was it?), but Oklahoma? That's exactly the ticket you need to be taken seriously.

Beat Oklahoma, and hope Oklahoma then rebounds to have a good year and be highly ranked. Then if you win out, you will be in the playoff discussion.

(12-09-2015 12:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:24 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

I'd say we'd have to look at their OOC schedule.

To make it to the playoffs, I would think any G5 would need to play at least one, maybe two, games against highly-rated P5. Like Navy and Temple did with Notre Dame and Memphis did with Ole Miss.

2016: Oklahoma, Louisville, Texas State (the gimme "hopefully".... see 2012), and Lamar.

Playing Louisville is worth nothing (it wasn't worth anything to you this year, was it?), but Oklahoma? That's exactly the ticket you need to be taken seriously.

Beat Oklahoma, and hope Oklahoma then rebounds to have a good year and be highly ranked. Then if you win out, you will be in the playoff discussion.

That is an ignorant post. How would you know if Ville is 6-6 or 10-2 next season?
The bottom line to get to a NY6 bowl is to be the highest rated CC. Which means besides winning the CC you want a good OOC record to fend off a 11 win MWC team as an example.
Every game can matter and often do.

(12-09-2015 12:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:24 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

I'd say we'd have to look at their OOC schedule.

To make it to the playoffs, I would think any G5 would need to play at least one, maybe two, games against highly-rated P5. Like Navy and Temple did with Notre Dame and Memphis did with Ole Miss.

2016: Oklahoma, Louisville, Texas State (the gimme "hopefully".... see 2012), and Lamar.

Playing Louisville is worth nothing (it wasn't worth anything to you this year, was it?), but Oklahoma? That's exactly the ticket you need to be taken seriously.

Beat Oklahoma, and hope Oklahoma then rebounds to have a good year and be highly ranked. Then if you win out, you will be in the playoff discussion.

Louisville was an ok team this year and they should be better next year.

(12-09-2015 12:32 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:24 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 10:17 AM)Maize Wrote:  The question for Houston is this...if they pull the upset over FSU will they be in position to make a run for the CFP next year...most of that roster including Tom Herman is coming back...

I'd say we'd have to look at their OOC schedule.

To make it to the playoffs, I would think any G5 would need to play at least one, maybe two, games against highly-rated P5. Like Navy and Temple did with Notre Dame and Memphis did with Ole Miss.

2016: Oklahoma, Louisville, Texas State (the gimme "hopefully".... see 2012), and Lamar.

Playing Louisville is worth nothing (it wasn't worth anything to you this year, was it?), but Oklahoma? That's exactly the ticket you need to be taken seriously.

Beat Oklahoma, and hope Oklahoma then rebounds to have a good year and be highly ranked. Then if you win out, you will be in the playoff discussion.

Louisville was an ok team this year and they should be better next year.

Sure, if Louisville has seasons like it had when TB was playing, it will be a valuable win to beat them. IF.

(12-09-2015 12:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:32 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:24 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'd say we'd have to look at their OOC schedule.

To make it to the playoffs, I would think any G5 would need to play at least one, maybe two, games against highly-rated P5. Like Navy and Temple did with Notre Dame and Memphis did with Ole Miss.

2016: Oklahoma, Louisville, Texas State (the gimme "hopefully".... see 2012), and Lamar.

Playing Louisville is worth nothing (it wasn't worth anything to you this year, was it?), but Oklahoma? That's exactly the ticket you need to be taken seriously.

Beat Oklahoma, and hope Oklahoma then rebounds to have a good year and be highly ranked. Then if you win out, you will be in the playoff discussion.

Louisville was an ok team this year and they should be better next year.

Sure, if Louisville has seasons like it had when TB was playing, it will be a valuable win to beat them. IF.

I think Louisville will be a top 30 type of team next year.

(12-09-2015 10:19 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Not really.

A third of the AAC is going to be better coached in 2016. I can see Houston losing two games next year.

Are they in the running for the 2016/2017 NY6 bowl? Oh hell yes. They're going to have a good team.

I would say not really based on how low they were ranked this year. The AAC had four ranked teams for half of November and three for most of the month and into December, yet its champion, who beat those other ranked teams in a span of 4 weeks, can't climb higher than 18? The fifth place team in the AAC beat the second place team in the SEC easily and still this?

I'm done ranting.

(12-09-2015 12:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:32 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:24 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'd say we'd have to look at their OOC schedule.

To make it to the playoffs, I would think any G5 would need to play at least one, maybe two, games against highly-rated P5. Like Navy and Temple did with Notre Dame and Memphis did with Ole Miss.

2016: Oklahoma, Louisville, Texas State (the gimme "hopefully".... see 2012), and Lamar.

Playing Louisville is worth nothing (it wasn't worth anything to you this year, was it?), but Oklahoma? That's exactly the ticket you need to be taken seriously.

Beat Oklahoma, and hope Oklahoma then rebounds to have a good year and be highly ranked. Then if you win out, you will be in the playoff discussion.

Louisville was an ok team this year and they should be better next year.

Sure, if Louisville has seasons like it had when TB was playing, it will be a valuable win to beat them. IF.

Ended up winning 7 games with close home losses this past year against Houston and Number 1 Clemson by 3...but remember Louisville started as many as 6 Freshmen on offense this past year and even with a couple of players leaving early for the NFL will return 17 Starters on offense and defense with the entire offense coming back.

This year was rebuilding but will be at worse a borderline Top 25 team going into 2016...started out 0-3 against Auburn in a virtual road game and against Houston and #1 Clemson..the youngesters finished 7-2 the last 9 games...

(12-09-2015 03:15 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:32 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:24 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  2016: Oklahoma, Louisville, Texas State (the gimme "hopefully".... see 2012), and Lamar.

Playing Louisville is worth nothing (it wasn't worth anything to you this year, was it?), but Oklahoma? That's exactly the ticket you need to be taken seriously.

Beat Oklahoma, and hope Oklahoma then rebounds to have a good year and be highly ranked. Then if you win out, you will be in the playoff discussion.

Louisville was an ok team this year and they should be better next year.

Sure, if Louisville has seasons like it had when TB was playing, it will be a valuable win to beat them. IF.

Ended up winning 7 games with close home losses this past year against Houston and Number 1 Clemson by 3...but remember Louisville started as many as 6 Freshmen on offense this past year and even with a couple of players leaving early for the NFL will return 17 Starters on offense and defense with the entire offense coming back.

This year was rebuilding but will be at worse a borderline Top 25 team going into 2016...started out 0-3 against Auburn in a virtual road game and against Houston and #1 Clemson..the youngesters finished 7-2 the last 9 games...

Not bad for a total rebuilding year

(12-09-2015 05:52 PM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 03:15 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:32 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 12:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Playing Louisville is worth nothing (it wasn't worth anything to you this year, was it?), but Oklahoma? That's exactly the ticket you need to be taken seriously.

Beat Oklahoma, and hope Oklahoma then rebounds to have a good year and be highly ranked. Then if you win out, you will be in the playoff discussion.

Louisville was an ok team this year and they should be better next year.

Sure, if Louisville has seasons like it had when TB was playing, it will be a valuable win to beat them. IF.

Ended up winning 7 games with close home losses this past year against Houston and Number 1 Clemson by 3...but remember Louisville started as many as 6 Freshmen on offense this past year and even with a couple of players leaving early for the NFL will return 17 Starters on offense and defense with the entire offense coming back.

This year was rebuilding but will be at worse a borderline Top 25 team going into 2016...started out 0-3 against Auburn in a virtual road game and against Houston and #1 Clemson..the youngesters finished 7-2 the last 9 games...

Not bad for a total rebuilding year

Yup...Losing 10 players to the NFL Draft and still won 7 games with only the FSU game & the 2nd Quarter at Pitt being washouts....winning 7 out of the last 9 with one of the youngest starting lineups in the P5.

Houston with a Top 25ish Louisville & Top 10 Oklahoma along with a decent AAC had a shot if they run the table of making the Playoffs....especially if they beat FSU in the Peach Bowl...

You just gave me yet another talking point about how unfair the committee is. Few teams in the country could have survived the type of schedule Louisville had and still had a winning record. Auburn goes 9-3 in any other division, they even had to deal with the best team in the FCS in Jacksonville State.

(12-10-2015 12:58 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  You just gave me yet another talking point about how unfair the committee is. Few teams in the country could have survived the type of schedule Louisville had and still had a winning record. Auburn goes 9-3 in any other division, they even had to deal with the best team in the FCS in Jacksonville State.

100% agree with you of Louisville football.

Red bird football is pretty impressive, he'll even in bad years no opponent should take them lightly, and they're far more dangerous at their place.

(12-10-2015 12:58 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  You just gave me yet another talking point about how unfair the committee is. Few teams in the country could have survived the type of schedule Louisville had and still had a winning record. Auburn goes 9-3 in any other division, they even had to deal with the best team in the FCS in Jacksonville State.

Not sure if I can go that far. Watching how Auburn dominated our team in the first half, then struggled with everyone else, made it clear that UofL was not as good this year as we thought coming into the year. Auburn just was not very good this year. They were somewhat streaky, in that they would have good stretches in games, but otherwise not good. Note the same for Louisville.

Of course the thing is, as bad as Louisville played this year, some really questionable quarterback moves cost some games. They were in position to tie or win all but one game, including missing a 38 yard field goal to send Clemson to OT. It was just not our year for sure.

As I said with Auburn, if they had played in any other division or conference in the country, they likely go 8-4 at least. Not great but better than 6-6. Louisville wasn't great this year, no good wins, but they also had losses to really good teams.

(12-06-2015 07:22 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 05:56 PM)Maize Wrote:  Florida State is a 6.5 point favorite over Houston...

FSU will win by 21 minimum.