(12-03-2015 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  IMO, looks like it's both disgruntled employee and terrorism. I mean, the dude did work at the place and apparently got into some sort of altercation at the gathering before leaving. Now, that doesn't explain the firepower, planning, and even remote control car with explosives, etc. Dude apparently was born in the US but met some Pakistani chick he married and recently returned from Saudi. I think the wife has more to do with this than what's known.

From the reports this morning, it sounds to me like they set up a sleeper cell. The neighbor says it is more than 3. Didn't report it in fear of being seen as a racist.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/0...ed-farook/

One too many people must have wished him a Merry Christmas at the holiday party.

To those calling it workplace violence, how on earth did they manage to go out and buy tactical gear and build remote controlled pipe bombs between leaving the party and returning within the hour?!?

(12-03-2015 09:41 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  To those calling it workplace violence, how on earth did they manage to go out and buy tactical gear and build remote controlled pipe bombs between leaving the party and returning within the hour?!?

Exactly. The only "workplace" involved happened to be where they chose their jihad. The whole thing was obviously pre-planned and worked on for quite some time.

The appearance at the party was likely a shakedown run to see exactly where everyone was in the building as well as final security check. He left, gave the go ahead and returned with others to claim His 72 Virgins ticket. It was a plan from the Get go, and using a Christmas party was icing on the cake.

Muslims need empathy. They need to be included, not shunned. They need jobs. They need democracy. They need the west to stop interfering in their holy lands. They need to be able to wear a full veil for there drivers license pictures. They need Sharia law in there American neighborhoods.


Do these things and you will live in peace with our muslim brothers and sisters.










One small caveat. (Your ass better convert to Islam)

Hillary/Obama/Bernie have to be upset when they found out it was Islamic Terrorism and not Billie Bob.

(12-03-2015 09:11 AM)fsquid Wrote:  NY Post cover this morning. Another jump to conclusions.

Sickening but not surprising.

(12-03-2015 08:39 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  To my friends and others: (the others being the Right Wing Nutjobs who like to take potshots at me, listen up and take notes. This is how you do a mea culpa.)


I'm changing my original thesis and I'm switching over to a definite Jihadi hybrid workplace violence. Definite seeds were planted. Just found out they were wearing Go Pros. If this is true they were motivated by an insult to Mohammed someway or somehow. You don't go through that level of planning and then want to film it and throw it on some Jihadi youtube. Some boss of his probably didn't let him pray 5 times a day or something.

No, this is how you do a mea culpa:

To everybody, I was wrong. It was radical islamic terrorists. Sorry I was once again fooled by multiple muslims sporting body armor, cameras, ak-47's, and pipe bombs to the point I was holding out hope that they were mad they didnt have a safe space at work.

(12-03-2015 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  IMO, looks like it's both disgruntled employee and terrorism. I mean, the dude did work at the place and apparently got into some sort of altercation at the gathering before leaving. Now, that doesn't explain the firepower, planning, and even remote control car with explosives, etc. Dude apparently was born in the US but met some Pakistani chick he married and recently returned from Saudi. I think the wife has more to do with this than what's known.

Kinda like the Movie Black Sunday ?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075765/[/b]

(12-03-2015 09:40 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  IMO, looks like it's both disgruntled employee and terrorism. I mean, the dude did work at the place and apparently got into some sort of altercation at the gathering before leaving. Now, that doesn't explain the firepower, planning, and even remote control car with explosives, etc. Dude apparently was born in the US but met some Pakistani chick he married and recently returned from Saudi. I think the wife has more to do with this than what's known.

From the reports this morning, it sounds to me like they set up a sleeper cell. The neighbor says it is more than 3. Didn't report it in fear of being seen as a racist.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/0...ed-farook/

The bolded part doesn't surprise me given today's society.

IMO, I think the wife may have radicalized the husband. Definitely more folks involved as that neighbor saw multiple middle of the night deliveries to the murderers home, etc.

I think he was already radicalized. He went to Saudi Arabia to get his wife as if it were arranged by some imam. Not like he was going to a Saudi resort to work on his sun tan.

(12-03-2015 10:05 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I think he was already radicalized. He went to Saudi Arabia to get his wife as if it were arranged by some imam. Not like he was going to a Saudi resort to work on his sun tan.

She wasn't Saudi though, she was from Pakistan from what I've read. That leads me to believe she was already in Saudi, got radicalized, and then he went over there to get her, etc. It's all conjecture at this point though.

He went there to pick up the woman who had already agreed to this. Calling her wife was just to get her in here.

(12-03-2015 10:07 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 10:05 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I think he was already radicalized. He went to Saudi Arabia to get his wife as if it were arranged by some imam. Not like he was going to a Saudi resort to work on his sun tan.

She wasn't Saudi though, she was from Pakistan from what I've read. That leads me to believe she was already in Saudi, got radicalized, and then he went over there to get her, etc. It's all conjecture at this point though.

Very true. At least we are getting details though. It really raises a lot of skepticism when they hide the facts, such as the case with Colorado Springs and Sandy Hook.

The two shooters were Muslim and recently went to Saudi Arabia. They had an IED factory in their garage. They planned the attack yesterday. They are Islamic terrorists. Home grown Islamic terrorists. Of course Obama will never, ever admit what they are. Well, Americans know what they are. Can't wait to hear that idiot witch Hillary deal with this.

Wonder whom the Nice dressed Muslims were that the neighbor was saying kept coming over to that house several times days before the attack. Some prominent local business Men ?

check out the video in previous post if you haven't already

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/0...ed-farook/

(12-03-2015 09:40 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-03-2015 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  IMO, looks like it's both disgruntled employee and terrorism. I mean, the dude did work at the place and apparently got into some sort of altercation at the gathering before leaving. Now, that doesn't explain the firepower, planning, and even remote control car with explosives, etc. Dude apparently was born in the US but met some Pakistani chick he married and recently returned from Saudi. I think the wife has more to do with this than what's known.

From the reports this morning, it sounds to me like they set up a sleeper cell. The neighbor says it is more than 3. Didn't report it in fear of being seen as a racist.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/0...ed-farook/

Coward.

You think the lib idiot Geraldo would like to take back this tweet...

workplace violence.