(11-28-2015 07:41 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 03:06 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 02:54 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 02:44 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Jesus...during the damn game?! I hope he had a chance to talk to his players beforehand, that's ****** of ESPN to do, but they could care less.

Really ****** of ESPN to not let him announce on his terms so he could talk to the players

ESPN is in the business of breaking news, not protecting people's feelings.

If Fuente was so concerned about letting the message out on his terms, he shouldn't have taken a new job in the middle of the season.

I don't understand the "shock" the everyone in the media that knew didn't sit on this info till after the game is over.

I can't remember the last coaching hire that was kept in secret till the official press conf announcement.

So many (at Va Tech and at Memphis) knew this...of course the news was going to break.

Remember that bowl game in Mobile, AL (I think) when it learned that Louisville's coach was taking another job?

Of course the media is going to spill the beans if they find out.

If you want to blame anyone, blame Fuentes and his attorney...because they could have just refused to meet with VT till after the last regular season game was over but it was pretty obvious that Fuentes agent/attorney was hungry for a deal (last few losses probably help that) so they got it done before today.

Well the problem was that SI Pete Thamel and Bleacher Report broke it that Virginia Tech intends to name Fuente as the next HC, but BR reports that there was no deal in place, nothing has been signed, etc.

Then Brett McMurphy and ESPN blasts it during the game that Fuente is heading to Virginia Tech and it's a done deal, which then requires Babcock to come out to say it's premature and then Fuente in his post-game conference to come out to say that not only is the report premature, the discussions are premature as well, indicating it's not done.

I believe he's going to sign sometime this coming week, but the deal isn't done yet, and ESPN might not care about people's feelings, but they should at least get their ******* reports right before putting it on full blast.

Can't find the linky but I've read an article that Memphis offer to Fuente was in the 2.5mil per neighborhood... Will Memphis try and work out a different deal with him and perhaps increase the per year offer instead?!?

(11-28-2015 09:11 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Can't find the linky but I've read an article that Memphis offer to Fuente was in the 2.5mil per neighborhood... Will Memphis try and work out a different deal with him and perhaps increase the per year offer instead?!?

Most of the articles have said they offered north of 3 mil and the one article of off of somewhere said 2.5.

I am pretty sure the former was the actual offer.

Fox Sports Radio reported that as soon as Beamer made his announcement of his retirement on Nov 1st...VT immediately contacted Fuentes agent/attorney and that's basically all she wrote.

Interesting to note that Memphis lost 3 straight games AFTER Fuentes was contacted by VT.

(11-28-2015 09:11 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Can't find the linky but I've read an article that Memphis offer to Fuente was in the 2.5mil per neighborhood... Will Memphis try and work out a different deal with him and perhaps increase the per year offer instead?!?

I keep telling you guys and you aren't listening...it isn't about matching. These guys, just like most of us, want to advance. Advancing means more money AND bigger program for most folks. UH, UC, Memphis, and the rest of the AAC are STEPPING STONE jobs. We can offer all the money we want, but in MOST instances, our coaches that are successful are GONE; gone to bigger programs/conference. Winning the AAC isn't a huge deal nationally as compared to winning the B12, B1G, ACC, SEC, PAC....

Herman is gone sooner or later. Same for every good coach that comes through AAC programs. Its just the way it is.

There must be some games going on here about the rumors because this article indicates that it is "Reports are premature" at this time. I agree that it probable but it doesn't appear to be cast in stone.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../76501554/

I watched Fuente's post Temple-Memphis presser and came away impressed with his demeanor and stature and (not to be melodramatic) his dignity. I'm sorry that we as a conference are losing him. My hopes are that Herman and Rhule stay home. According to Matt Rhule, they are friends, so one staying may influence the other (or one leaving for that matter.)

Here's to staying "home."

(11-29-2015 01:54 AM)Cecil_B_DeMoore Wrote:  I watched Fuente's post Temple-Memphis presser and came away impressed with his demeanor and stature and (not to be melodramatic) his dignity. I'm sorry that we as a conference are losing him. My hopes are that Herman and Rhule stay home. According to Matt Rhule, they are friends, so one staying may influence the other (or one leaving for that matter.)

Here's to staying "home."

haha no

they will move on as friends.

(11-29-2015 08:25 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:54 AM)Cecil_B_DeMoore Wrote:  I watched Fuente's post Temple-Memphis presser and came away impressed with his demeanor and stature and (not to be melodramatic) his dignity. I'm sorry that we as a conference are losing him. My hopes are that Herman and Rhule stay home. According to Matt Rhule, they are friends, so one staying may influence the other (or one leaving for that matter.)

Here's to staying "home."

haha no

they will move on as friends.

two things. both have probably already been beat to death. but, since I have a life (jk!), I wasn't on here yesterday. One, did anyone else think it was weird that "reports" of Fuente leaving were being aired, while Memphis was still playing? Especially since they're now backing off a little. Two if he does go to VT, what does that mean for / to bud foster? If foster's passed over, will he take his defense somewhere else (UC, please)? I always thought he turned down other jobs, because he was going to take over when good old frank retired / got pushed out.

(11-29-2015 08:32 AM)dave108 Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 08:25 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 01:54 AM)Cecil_B_DeMoore Wrote:  I watched Fuente's post Temple-Memphis presser and came away impressed with his demeanor and stature and (not to be melodramatic) his dignity. I'm sorry that we as a conference are losing him. My hopes are that Herman and Rhule stay home. According to Matt Rhule, they are friends, so one staying may influence the other (or one leaving for that matter.)

Here's to staying "home."

haha no

they will move on as friends.

two things. both have probably already been beat to death. but, since I have a life (jk!), I wasn't on here yesterday. One, did anyone else think it was weird that "reports" of Fuente leaving were being aired, while Memphis was still playing? Especially since they're now backing off a little. Two if he does go to VT, what does that mean for / to bud foster? If foster's passed over, will he take his defense somewhere else (UC, please)? I always thought he turned down other jobs, because he was going to take over when good old frank retired / got pushed out.

Reports are that Foster will remain as DC and Beamer's son will also be on Fuentes's staff.

(11-28-2015 03:49 PM)LlamaLG Wrote:  Memphis is preparing to have a UCF season next year.

0-12?

Weak attempt at trolling. Want to put some money where your mouth is?

Personally I think Fuente is jumping the gun. I believe better jobs are going to be available soon.

(11-29-2015 09:38 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Personally I think Fuente is jumping the gun. I believe better jobs are going to be available soon.

Bird in the hand. I imagine you guys will find a good replacement.

Its a great fit for Fuentes. He is keeping a legendary DC who will really help him and if youve ever been to Vtech, their facilitates are amazing. He just got a job in a very desirable location in a very winnable situation. He could have gotten a low end SEC job where he could spend years getting hammered by the likes of Bama, A&M, Auburn and such.... instead he gets a spot where he can truly compete. Clemson is having a banner year but most years they are beatable. Same can be said for FSU. Tech used to be the leader of the ACC and he can bring it back around.

With that said, Memphis showed they want to be big time and if they truly can use $3 million, then they can get a damn fine coach. Memphis is showing all of us how it is done. In the $2.5-3 million range, there are going to be a ton of coaches.
I could see them going after someone like Kirby Smart if they are willing to go for a coordinator. Hes the next big thing once someone gives him a chance. As much as I liked Fuentes, I think Memphis can survive losing him and move on being very strong... what will hurt them more is losing a near Heisman level QB. Lynch is a stud and made that team. He carried them on his back and he is gonna be tough to replace.

I dont see Memphis at the top for next year, but I also dont see them going away anytime soon. THeyll get a good coach.

(11-29-2015 09:38 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Personally I think Fuente is jumping the gun. I believe better jobs are going to be available soon.

Possibly...but I think Foster staying as DC might have helped seal the deal as Fuentes obvious weakness is defense...so if you can be a HC with a top DC, that's a pretty good offer to take.

Plus, VT is located in that "other" ACC Division, i.e. the one without FSU nor Clemson, so in most years, that is a much easier path to make it to the ACC Championship Game.

(11-28-2015 09:42 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 09:11 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Can't find the linky but I've read an article that Memphis offer to Fuente was in the 2.5mil per neighborhood... Will Memphis try and work out a different deal with him and perhaps increase the per year offer instead?!?

I keep telling you guys and you aren't listening...it isn't about matching. These guys, just like most of us, want to advance. Advancing means more money AND bigger program for most folks. UH, UC, Memphis, and the rest of the AAC are STEPPING STONE jobs. We can offer all the money we want, but in MOST instances, our coaches that are successful are GONE; gone to bigger programs/conference. Winning the AAC isn't a huge deal nationally as compared to winning the B12, B1G, ACC, SEC, PAC....

Herman is gone sooner or later. Same for every good coach that comes through AAC programs. Its just the way it is.

You are correct. The only exception to that rule that I can think of is Patterson at TCU which makes them the luckiest sob's ever. If Patterson had left and put them back on the coaching carousel they wouldn't be in the Big 12 right now.

(11-28-2015 09:42 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 09:11 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Can't find the linky but I've read an article that Memphis offer to Fuente was in the 2.5mil per neighborhood... Will Memphis try and work out a different deal with him and perhaps increase the per year offer instead?!?

I keep telling you guys and you aren't listening...it isn't about matching. These guys, just like most of us, want to advance. Advancing means more money AND bigger program for most folks. UH, UC, Memphis, and the rest of the AAC are STEPPING STONE jobs. We can offer all the money we want, but in MOST instances, our coaches that are successful are GONE; gone to bigger programs/conference. Winning the AAC isn't a huge deal nationally as compared to winning the B12, B1G, ACC, SEC, PAC....

Herman is gone sooner or later. Same for every good coach that comes through AAC programs. Its just the way it is.

Herman chose UH over USCe. That blows your rant out of the water right there.
No one ever said that Herman would never leave down the road. That happens everywhere. Coaches move on, from Bear Bryant to Chip Kelly. Its a nomadic business... And there are MAYBE 10 TRUE destinations out there. Every other job is susceptible to poaching. Herman stayed for the 3 mill. Bottom line cause Stone Cold said so.

(11-29-2015 10:13 AM)lollaperuna Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 09:42 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 09:11 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Can't find the linky but I've read an article that Memphis offer to Fuente was in the 2.5mil per neighborhood... Will Memphis try and work out a different deal with him and perhaps increase the per year offer instead?!?

I keep telling you guys and you aren't listening...it isn't about matching. These guys, just like most of us, want to advance. Advancing means more money AND bigger program for most folks. UH, UC, Memphis, and the rest of the AAC are STEPPING STONE jobs. We can offer all the money we want, but in MOST instances, our coaches that are successful are GONE; gone to bigger programs/conference. Winning the AAC isn't a huge deal nationally as compared to winning the B12, B1G, ACC, SEC, PAC....

Herman is gone sooner or later. Same for every good coach that comes through AAC programs. Its just the way it is.

You are correct. The only exception to that rule that I can think of is Patterson at TCU which makes them the luckiest sob's ever. If Patterson had left and put them back on the coaching carousel they wouldn't be in the Big 12 right now.

Coaching is an innately nomadic business. But, in the BCS era, Bower stayed at Southern Miss (even while receiving offers), Patterson stayed at TCU (even after his alma mater offered), Hill stayed at Fresno, Peterson stayed at Boise (and received NUMEROUS offers before Washington), etc

(11-29-2015 10:34 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-29-2015 10:13 AM)lollaperuna Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 09:42 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 09:11 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Can't find the linky but I've read an article that Memphis offer to Fuente was in the 2.5mil per neighborhood... Will Memphis try and work out a different deal with him and perhaps increase the per year offer instead?!?

I keep telling you guys and you aren't listening...it isn't about matching. These guys, just like most of us, want to advance. Advancing means more money AND bigger program for most folks. UH, UC, Memphis, and the rest of the AAC are STEPPING STONE jobs. We can offer all the money we want, but in MOST instances, our coaches that are successful are GONE; gone to bigger programs/conference. Winning the AAC isn't a huge deal nationally as compared to winning the B12, B1G, ACC, SEC, PAC....

Herman is gone sooner or later. Same for every good coach that comes through AAC programs. Its just the way it is.

You are correct. The only exception to that rule that I can think of is Patterson at TCU which makes them the luckiest sob's ever. If Patterson had left and put them back on the coaching carousel they wouldn't be in the Big 12 right now.

Coaching is an innately nomadic business. But, in the BCS era, Bower stayed at Southern Miss (even while receiving offers), Patterson stayed at TCU (even after his alma mater offered), Hill stayed at Fresno, Peterson stayed at Boise (and received NUMEROUS offers before Washington), etc

Hill got fired and Peterson left. Patterson is the only one.

And Herman will probably eventually get fired if he stays around... Its the nature of the business.

You can't look at everything in the long perspective.

Fact is, Houston is offering money that is unheard of at a school that isn't part of the autonomous 5. You can't just overlap these paradigms and come up with a neat conclusion. Patterson is in the autonomy group now, so even those comparisons are problematic.

It doesn't take away from the fact that non-autonomous coaches have been rejecting offers from that group for a long time.