http://espn.go.com/ncf/story/_/id/142373...gers-coach

Unbelievable. They have a bad case of the "big-head" down there.

Dan Mullen.

It's a poor move. Next year was shaping up to be a good one for them.

The talk of Jimbo is ridiculous.

(11-27-2015 05:43 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It's a poor move. Next year was shaping up to be a good one for them.

The talk of Jimbo is ridiculous.

Agreed

(11-27-2015 05:43 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It's a poor move. Next year was shaping up to be a good one for them.

The talk of Jimbo was ridiculous.

Nothing ridiculous about that talk, I'm sure Jimbo used it to squeeze a few more $$$ out of FSU before making that gushing statement about how much he loves being there.

As for Miles, his record is very much like that of his mentor, Bo Schembechler, and the Michigan program in general. Over the long haul, Michigan has as impressive an overall record as anyone - most wins, second best winning %. But historically, at least in my lifetime, their program is marked more by "consistently very good" performance rather than great performance. Michigan is always good, but they've won 1/2 of a national title in the past 70 years.

Likewise, Bo's overall record at Michigan was fantastic. In 21 seasons, he won fewer than 8 games only once, never had a losing record, and won 10 games 11 times, back when winning 10 games was a real mark of an excellent season. And yet, he was 2-9 in major bowl games and never won a national title.

Similarly, if you look at the totality of Miles's 11 years at LSU, it's a sterling record. But it's a record of a program with lots of 2nd and 3rd place finishes, not many 1st place finishes.

LSU fans are willing to risk becoming Nebraska rather than go 9-4 every year and watch players who were 4- and 5- star recruits have pretty good careers at LSU and then go on to become stars in the NFL.

In the end, I can never blame a fan base for having higher aspirations.

(11-27-2015 06:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 05:43 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It's a poor move. Next year was shaping up to be a good one for them.

The talk of Jimbo was ridiculous.

Nothing ridiculous about that talk, I'm sure Jimbo used it to squeeze a few more $$$ out of FSU before making that gushing statement about how much he loves being there.

As for Miles, his record is very much like that of his mentor, Bo Schembechler, and the Michigan program in general. Over the long haul, Michigan has as impressive an overall record as anyone - most wins, second best winning %. But historically, at least in my lifetime, their program is marked more by "consistently very good" performance rather than great performance. Michigan is always good, but they've won 1/2 of a national title in the past 70 years.

Likewise, Bo's overall record at Michigan was fantastic. In 21 seasons, he won fewer than 8 games only once, never had a losing record, and won 10 games 11 times, back when winning 10 games was a real mark of an excellent season. And yet, he was 2-9 in major bowl games and never won a national title.

Similarly, if you look at the totality of Miles's 11 years at LSU, it's a sterling record. But it's a record of a program with lots of 2nd and 3rd place finishes, not many 1st place finishes.

LSU fans are willing to risk becoming Nebraska rather than go 9-4 every year and watch players who were 4- and 5- star recruits have pretty good careers at LSU and then go on to become stars in the NFL.

In the end, I can never blame a fan base for having higher aspirations.

Yes you can blame them. There isn't a history by which to base these lofty expectations upon. If not for Saban, this wouldn't even be a legitimate conversation.

Chip Kelly or Jim Mora. I really hope I'm wrong.

(11-27-2015 05:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Dan Mullen.

I hope you are correct.

They better have their guy in hand before letting Miles go...

I don't think they do. If they did I'd assume we'd be hearing about it to offset all the flak they are catching.

(11-27-2015 07:41 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't think they do. If they did I'd assume we'd be hearing about it to offset all the flak they are catching.

Must be a big catch.

(11-27-2015 07:31 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  Chip Kelly or Jim Mora. I really hope I'm wrong.

Only if LSU is the #2 open after USC. I don't think that is the case.

(11-27-2015 07:45 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 07:41 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't think they do. If they did I'd assume we'd be hearing about it to offset all the flak they are catching.

Must be a big catch.

Well, I guess when you put it that way Jimbo may be interested.

I'm skeptical though. Jimbo is at a powerhouse with all the money he could want and a pathway to a NC every year through the ACC. What advantage does LSU have over that?

One thing is for sure, LSU is the premier job, behind USC, up for grabs this season.

(11-27-2015 07:41 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't think they do. If they did I'd assume we'd be hearing about it to offset all the flak they are catching.

They cant announce it if he is coaching someone else right now.

(11-27-2015 07:33 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 05:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Dan Mullen.

I hope you are correct.

Just curious, why do you hope that? Mullen knows the area well now, knows the recruiting but will have a much better brand and program backing him up on that recruiting trail. Someone could argue that Mullen is better with QB's due to Prescott. Someone could also argue that he is a good coach that has gotten better than expected results from his program while Miles has slipped and doesn't deliver such anymore.

Mullen could be dangerous at LSU.

(11-27-2015 07:45 PM)Dasville Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 07:41 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't think they do. If they did I'd assume we'd be hearing about it to offset all the flak they are catching.

Must be a big catch.

Either they have lined up a big catch of the caliber of Jimbo, or they're just rolling the dice and hoping. Either one is possible. I wouldn't underestimate the possibility that angry boosters are willing to just roll the dice on "whomever", as irrational as that might seem.

If they hooked Jimbo there is just no way rumors wouldn't be thick enough to choke on.

(11-27-2015 06:54 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 06:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-27-2015 05:43 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It's a poor move. Next year was shaping up to be a good one for them.

The talk of Jimbo was ridiculous.

Nothing ridiculous about that talk, I'm sure Jimbo used it to squeeze a few more $$$ out of FSU before making that gushing statement about how much he loves being there.

As for Miles, his record is very much like that of his mentor, Bo Schembechler, and the Michigan program in general. Over the long haul, Michigan has as impressive an overall record as anyone - most wins, second best winning %. But historically, at least in my lifetime, their program is marked more by "consistently very good" performance rather than great performance. Michigan is always good, but they've won 1/2 of a national title in the past 70 years.

Likewise, Bo's overall record at Michigan was fantastic. In 21 seasons, he won fewer than 8 games only once, never had a losing record, and won 10 games 11 times, back when winning 10 games was a real mark of an excellent season. And yet, he was 2-9 in major bowl games and never won a national title.

Similarly, if you look at the totality of Miles's 11 years at LSU, it's a sterling record. But it's a record of a program with lots of 2nd and 3rd place finishes, not many 1st place finishes.

LSU fans are willing to risk becoming Nebraska rather than go 9-4 every year and watch players who were 4- and 5- star recruits have pretty good careers at LSU and then go on to become stars in the NFL.

In the end, I can never blame a fan base for having higher aspirations.

Yes you can blame them. There isn't a history by which to base these lofty expectations upon. If not for Saban, this wouldn't even be a legitimate conversation.

You sound like a bitter LSU hater. What did they do to you?

(11-27-2015 08:06 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  If they hooked Jimbo there is just no way rumors wouldn't be thick enough to choke on.

LSU seems to want Jimbo but i am not sure why. He was a good coordinator at LSU but as a head coach his claim to fame is that Jameis Winston was there for two years. Without Winston, he'd have nothing to show for his FSU tenure.