(11-16-2015 12:46 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  I would like to motion to have the term "Liberal" replaced with Progressive. I do not align with any of these new progressive ideals and I will vote Republican if I have to help get someone into office that will halt the importing of people and protect our nation. My heart aches for the innocent but it's a cluster **** over there and I don't want that cluster **** on our land. Reopen the borders with a concise plan and program when things are under control. Radical Islam is a cancer to our Earth that needs to be removed. Immediately.

Where we are right now is discussing ideals way beyond how we spend tax funds on social initiatives. This is a matter of national security. Our primary concern should be the protection of our national security and then help clean up the mess after as best we can.

Good! Vote with your bigoted brothers! We don't want your xenophobic vote!

Rant time!

We screen every refugee that comes into this country so much that it takes TWO ******* YEARS. What more do you want? We've been welcoming people fleeing religious persecution since the Pilgrims. But we always have an ugly xenophobic strain that wants to halt immigration because a certain race or religion isn't "American" enough for them. The Irish, the Jews, the Chinese, the Italians, the Poles, Mexicans, and now Muslims. We built internment camps for Japanese Americans. We turned away Jews aboard the SS St. Louis. We enslaved and legally discriminated against blacks for centuries. We reneged on contracts and committed terrible atrocities against Native Americans. You have to ask yourself if you want to be on the right side of history or not.

Radical Islam is a cancer, yes! And you propose we defeat Radical Islam by refusing the VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE FLEEING IT??? The very people who are fleeing rape and murder? You realize ISIS had killed far more Muslims than they have Christians right? ISIS is pissed that these people got away from them! That's why they conducted the attacks in Paris! And they hoped to provoke a backlash that would alienate these refugees from their host countries so they will turn to ISIS propaganda. "See, they hate you. Join us to fight back!" And the reich wing is of course happily complicit. Just like after 9/11. What did bin Laden want? He wanted us over there, and a big emotional overreaction to their terror, so we could throw away blood and treasure and stir anti American resentment among the world's billion Muslims. And Bush and the Republicans were stupid enough to fall for it, because of course they were.

**** all of you bigots. You're terrible people. You're not only vile and revolting, but you're playing directly into ISIS's hands. And **** your faux Christianity. I'm more Christian than you are. Remember the Golden Rule? Treat others as you would want to be treated? What if YOU were fleeing a war zone with people dying by the hundreds of thousands? Where's your sense of compassion? If you don't have any empathy for these poor souls, you're no better than they are and in fact I would trade you for these refugees in a heartbeat. We've got enough sociopaths as it is-- they're called Republican politicians.

(11-17-2015 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 10:43 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 10:31 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 08:39 AM)Otacon Wrote:  Why bring in people who hate you and want to kill you and your family?

..... the absurdity of this statement.


You're all officially xenophobic nutjobs.

Yes, everyone is crazy except you. Makes sense.

Xenophobia isn't crazy. It's just evil.

no doubt....wanting to protect a culture that gave you the right to express that thought is just evil.....

if you only would have tacked-on "knievil" to the end of that thought, it would've been valid

LoL @ all the liberal atheists all of the sudden concerned that Christians aren't acting "Christian-like" because it would support the liberal agenda...

(11-17-2015 10:57 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Radical Islam is a cancer, yes! And you propose we defeat Radical Islam by refusing the VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE FLEEING IT??? The very people who are fleeing rape and murder? You realize ISIS had killed far more Muslims than they have Christians right?

Your incessant butthurt is clouding your ability to think clearly.

As we saw in France, not everyone who is "fleeing" is an innocent refugee. It's quite obvious, and will become more obvious, that the knuckle-dragging Islamofascists have infiltrated those ranks. Europe is going to take steps to curb this migration, sadly it didn't happen quite soon enough.

Of course they've murdered more Muslims. The region is about 90% Muslim. That doesn't mean they aren't conducting a systemic cleansing of Christianity there. Many believe that Christianity will cease to exist in the region in 10-15 years.....due to the hate, violence, malevolence, and ignorance of Islam. All the Christians will either be killed or have migrated elsewhere.

You folks keep claiming it is a very minute percentage (+/-1%) of Muslims that are perpetrating this violence......but aside from that being a load of bull****, I find it incredible that the "99%" of peaceful, loving Muslims have ABSOLUTELY NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING TO COMBAT this "1%." Are we really to believe that this 99%, while apparently anti-ISIS and peaceful, is unable to do anything themselves to stop the violence. I find it hard to believe that 99% cannot do a damn thing to stop 1% from taking over large chunks of territory, committing mass murders, and generally being the scum of the earth.

(11-17-2015 10:57 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:46 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  I would like to motion to have the term "Liberal" replaced with Progressive. I do not align with any of these new progressive ideals and I will vote Republican if I have to help get someone into office that will halt the importing of people and protect our nation. My heart aches for the innocent but it's a cluster **** over there and I don't want that cluster **** on our land. Reopen the borders with a concise plan and program when things are under control. Radical Islam is a cancer to our Earth that needs to be removed. Immediately.

Where we are right now is discussing ideals way beyond how we spend tax funds on social initiatives. This is a matter of national security. Our primary concern should be the protection of our national security and then help clean up the mess after as best we can.

Good! Vote with your bigoted brothers! We don't want your xenophobic vote!

Rant time!

We screen every refugee that comes into this country so much that it takes TWO ******* YEARS. What more do you want? We've been welcoming people fleeing religious persecution since the Pilgrims. But we always have an ugly xenophobic strain that wants to halt immigration because a certain race or religion isn't "American" enough for them. The Irish, the Jews, the Chinese, the Italians, the Poles, Mexicans, and now Muslims. We built internment camps for Japanese Americans. We turned away Jews aboard the SS St. Louis. We enslaved and legally discriminated against blacks for centuries. We reneged on contracts and committed terrible atrocities against Native Americans. You have to ask yourself if you want to be on the right side of history or not.

Radical Islam is a cancer, yes! And you propose we defeat Radical Islam by refusing the VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE FLEEING IT??? The very people who are fleeing rape and murder? You realize ISIS had killed far more Muslims than they have Christians right? ISIS is pissed that these people got away from them! That's why they conducted the attacks in Paris! And they hoped to provoke a backlash that would alienate these refugees from their host countries so they will turn to ISIS propaganda. "See, they hate you. Join us to fight back!" And the reich wing is of course happily complicit. Just like after 9/11. What did bin Laden want? He wanted us over there, and a big emotional overreaction to their terror, so we could throw away blood and treasure and stir anti American resentment among the world's billion Muslims. And Bush and the Republicans were stupid enough to fall for it, because of course they were.

**** all of you bigots. You're terrible people. You're not only vile and revolting, but you're playing directly into ISIS's hands. And **** your faux Christianity. I'm more Christian than you are. Remember the Golden Rule? Treat others as you would want to be treated? What if YOU were fleeing a war zone with people dying by the hundreds of thousands? Where's your sense of compassion? If you don't have any empathy for these poor souls, you're no better than they are and in fact I would trade you for these refugees in a heartbeat. We've got enough sociopaths as it is-- they're called Republican politicians.

Why aren't the other Middle East nations absorbing these refugees then? If they are simply fleeing the warfare, they can surely go to the next safe country over then, right?

(11-17-2015 11:16 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 10:57 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:46 PM)Cr8n Wrote:  I would like to motion to have the term "Liberal" replaced with Progressive. I do not align with any of these new progressive ideals and I will vote Republican if I have to help get someone into office that will halt the importing of people and protect our nation. My heart aches for the innocent but it's a cluster **** over there and I don't want that cluster **** on our land. Reopen the borders with a concise plan and program when things are under control. Radical Islam is a cancer to our Earth that needs to be removed. Immediately.

Where we are right now is discussing ideals way beyond how we spend tax funds on social initiatives. This is a matter of national security. Our primary concern should be the protection of our national security and then help clean up the mess after as best we can.

Good! Vote with your bigoted brothers! We don't want your xenophobic vote!

Rant time!

We screen every refugee that comes into this country so much that it takes TWO ******* YEARS. What more do you want? We've been welcoming people fleeing religious persecution since the Pilgrims. But we always have an ugly xenophobic strain that wants to halt immigration because a certain race or religion isn't "American" enough for them. The Irish, the Jews, the Chinese, the Italians, the Poles, Mexicans, and now Muslims. We built internment camps for Japanese Americans. We turned away Jews aboard the SS St. Louis. We enslaved and legally discriminated against blacks for centuries. We reneged on contracts and committed terrible atrocities against Native Americans. You have to ask yourself if you want to be on the right side of history or not.

Radical Islam is a cancer, yes! And you propose we defeat Radical Islam by refusing the VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE FLEEING IT??? The very people who are fleeing rape and murder? You realize ISIS had killed far more Muslims than they have Christians right? ISIS is pissed that these people got away from them! That's why they conducted the attacks in Paris! And they hoped to provoke a backlash that would alienate these refugees from their host countries so they will turn to ISIS propaganda. "See, they hate you. Join us to fight back!" And the reich wing is of course happily complicit. Just like after 9/11. What did bin Laden want? He wanted us over there, and a big emotional overreaction to their terror, so we could throw away blood and treasure and stir anti American resentment among the world's billion Muslims. And Bush and the Republicans were stupid enough to fall for it, because of course they were.

**** all of you bigots. You're terrible people. You're not only vile and revolting, but you're playing directly into ISIS's hands. And **** your faux Christianity. I'm more Christian than you are. Remember the Golden Rule? Treat others as you would want to be treated? What if YOU were fleeing a war zone with people dying by the hundreds of thousands? Where's your sense of compassion? If you don't have any empathy for these poor souls, you're no better than they are and in fact I would trade you for these refugees in a heartbeat. We've got enough sociopaths as it is-- they're called Republican politicians.

Why aren't the other Middle East nations absorbing these refugees then? If they are simply fleeing the warfare, they can surely go to the next safe country over then, right?

they now have 'seen the light' of libtard rule......

it's free shite man.....

(11-17-2015 10:57 AM)Max Power Wrote:  **** all of you bigots. You're terrible people. You're not only vile and revolting, but you're playing directly into ISIS's hands. And **** your faux Christianity. I'm more Christian than you are.

Muh self-righteous cognitive dissonance.

(11-17-2015 10:31 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 08:39 AM)Otacon Wrote:  Why bring in people who hate you and want to kill you and your family?

..... the absurdity of this statement.


You're all officially xenophobic nutjobs.

(11-17-2015 11:10 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 10:57 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Radical Islam is a cancer, yes! And you propose we defeat Radical Islam by refusing the VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE FLEEING IT??? The very people who are fleeing rape and murder? You realize ISIS had killed far more Muslims than they have Christians right?

Your incessant butthurt is clouding your ability to think clearly.

As we saw in France, not everyone who is "fleeing" is an innocent refugee. It's quite obvious, and will become more obvious, that the knuckle-dragging Islamofascists have infiltrated those ranks. Europe is going to take steps to curb this migration, sadly it didn't happen quite soon enough.

Of course they've murdered more Muslims. The region is about 90% Muslim. That doesn't mean they aren't conducting a systemic cleansing of Christianity there. Many believe that Christianity will cease to exist in the region in 10-15 years.....due to the hate, violence, malevolence, and ignorance of Islam. All the Christians will either be killed or have migrated elsewhere.

You folks keep claiming it is a very minute percentage (+/-1%) of Muslims that are perpetrating this violence......but aside from that being a load of bull****, I find it incredible that the "99%" of peaceful, loving Muslims have ABSOLUTELY NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING TO COMBAT this "1%." Are we really to believe that this 99%, while apparently anti-ISIS and peaceful, is unable to do anything themselves to stop the violence. I find it hard to believe that 99% cannot do a damn thing to stop 1% from taking over large chunks of territory, committing mass murders, and generally being the scum of the earth.

You don't know what you're talking about. The Paris attackers were French citizens with maybe one exception, and that one exception's passport is widely thought to be stolen or a fake. The mastermind was a Belgian. They were NOT refugees!

Your argument is dumb. It's a religion of 1.5 billion people. ISIS is 20,000 people. Yes, that's by definition a minute percentage. And you're asking why haven't other Muslims done anything? Probably because those that have got their heads chopped off, and the rest are reasonably afraid. If you're asking why the other leaders in the area aren't doing anything, 1. the gulf states like Jordan are somewhat by launching air raids but 2. they figure the US will do the heavy lifting like we always do.

When the KKK was burning crosses and misusing Christianity in the early 20th century to terrorize black people, why didn't the 99% of other Christians shut them down? Following your logic, because they didn't, they must have spoken for all of Christianity.

(11-17-2015 11:21 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 11:10 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 10:57 AM)Max Power Wrote:  Radical Islam is a cancer, yes! And you propose we defeat Radical Islam by refusing the VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE FLEEING IT??? The very people who are fleeing rape and murder? You realize ISIS had killed far more Muslims than they have Christians right?

Your incessant butthurt is clouding your ability to think clearly.

As we saw in France, not everyone who is "fleeing" is an innocent refugee. It's quite obvious, and will become more obvious, that the knuckle-dragging Islamofascists have infiltrated those ranks. Europe is going to take steps to curb this migration, sadly it didn't happen quite soon enough.

Of course they've murdered more Muslims. The region is about 90% Muslim. That doesn't mean they aren't conducting a systemic cleansing of Christianity there. Many believe that Christianity will cease to exist in the region in 10-15 years.....due to the hate, violence, malevolence, and ignorance of Islam. All the Christians will either be killed or have migrated elsewhere.

You folks keep claiming it is a very minute percentage (+/-1%) of Muslims that are perpetrating this violence......but aside from that being a load of bull****, I find it incredible that the "99%" of peaceful, loving Muslims have ABSOLUTELY NO POWER TO DO ANYTHING TO COMBAT this "1%." Are we really to believe that this 99%, while apparently anti-ISIS and peaceful, is unable to do anything themselves to stop the violence. I find it hard to believe that 99% cannot do a damn thing to stop 1% from taking over large chunks of territory, committing mass murders, and generally being the scum of the earth.

You don't know what you're talking about. The Paris attackers were French citizens with maybe one exception, and that one exception's passport is widely thought to be stolen or a fake. The mastermind was a Belgian. They were NOT refugees!

Your argument is dumb. It's a religion of 1.5 billion people. ISIS is 20,000 people. Yes, that's by definition a minute percentage. And you're asking why haven't other Muslims done anything? Probably because those that have got their heads chopped off, and the rest are reasonably afraid. If you're asking why the other leaders in the area aren't doing anything, 1. the gulf states like Jordan are somewhat by launching air raids but 2. they figure the US will do the heavy lifting like we always do.

When the KKK was burning crosses and misusing Christianity in the early 20th century to terrorize black people, why didn't the 99% of other Christians shut them down? Following your logic, because they didn't, they must have spoken for all of Christianity.

Something about that statement....

(11-17-2015 11:16 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Why aren't the other Middle East nations absorbing these refugees then? If they are simply fleeing the warfare, they can surely go to the next safe country over then, right?

Because they're selfish and don't want to take care of them? More importantly, what does this have to do with anything? I like to think we're better than the monarchic gulf states.

(11-17-2015 10:55 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 10:43 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 10:31 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 08:39 AM)Otacon Wrote:  Why bring in people who hate you and want to kill you and your family?

..... the absurdity of this statement.


You're all officially xenophobic nutjobs.

Yes, everyone is crazy except you. Makes sense.

Xenophobia isn't crazy. It's just evil.

And you both are dumb to associate his statement towards all refugees, all it takes is one to kill hundreds. Call it Xenophobia, but it is what it is, which is possibility and common sense, specially considering refugees were involved with what happened in Paris. But hey, keep drinking your far left kool-aid.

(11-17-2015 11:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

Something about that statement....

Dumb. Wasn't Timothy McVeigh a white Christian? Better expel all white Christians!

(11-17-2015 11:19 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 10:57 AM)Max Power Wrote:  **** all of you bigots. You're terrible people. You're not only vile and revolting, but you're playing directly into ISIS's hands. And **** your faux Christianity. I'm more Christian than you are.

Muh self-righteous cognitive dissonance.

another lib atheist self destructs....

us 'atheists with horns' don't want him....

but we'll take him back and fix him up after evil knievel breaks their bones....

at some point you have to put all the bs aside, and figure out (while you have the upper hand) how to end this by whatever means necessary....

(11-17-2015 11:25 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 11:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

Something about that statement....

Dumb. Wasn't Timothy McVeigh a white Christian? Better expel all white Christians!

No, he was an atheist. IJS.

Stop trying so hard.

(11-17-2015 11:25 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 11:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

Something about that statement....

Dumb. Wasn't Timothy McVeigh a white Christian? Better expel all white Christians!

Well you are dumber than a box of rocks...

"In McVeigh's biography American Terrorist, released in 2002, he stated that he did not believe in a hell and that science is his religion.[92][93] In June 2001, a day before the execution, McVeigh wrote a letter to the Buffalo News identifying himself as agnostic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

so some might say we now understand that no matter the 'religion', radicals will always exist.....

but a few might say, if it wasn't for religion, then the human race might be much further advanced in thinking today....

it's a crazy concept....with one exception....man has always killed whilst working together using common sense and science to promote humans to where we exist today....

religion has only become a hurdle that will one day not exist....and today ain't that day

a little stinky fodder as the skies darken in the 'burg.....

(11-17-2015 11:25 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 11:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

Something about that statement....

Dumb. Wasn't Timothy McVeigh a white Christian? Better expel all white Christians!

You want to know how badly you fail? Not only is this post Gruber Stupid, Russia told us those brothers were terrorists. But do tell again about that "Robust Vetting Practice" that will be in place to process the refugees.

If ISIS is contained, why do we need to ship refugees around the world? Why remove them from their homeland or area? Is Obama lying when he says ISIS is contained?

(11-17-2015 10:57 AM)Max Power Wrote:  **** all of you bigots. You're terrible people. You're not only vile and revolting, but you're playing directly into ISIS's hands. And **** your faux Christianity. I'm more Christian than you are. Remember the Golden Rule? Treat others as you would want to be treated? What if YOU were fleeing a war zone with people dying by the hundreds of thousands? Where's your sense of compassion? If you don't have any empathy for these poor souls, you're no better than they are and in fact I would trade you for these refugees in a heartbeat. We've got enough sociopaths as it is-- they're called Republican politicians.

1. That's some real compassion.

2. For the bolded, I wouldn't flee, I would fight. It's obviously that leaving hasn't solved the problem.

It's obvious that you think that if the West does nothing that this problem will go away. as such, how many people have to die in terrorist attacks before your position is proven false?

(11-17-2015 11:41 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  so some might say we now understand that no matter the 'religion', radicals will always exist.....

but a few might say, if it wasn't for religion, then the human race might be much further advanced in thinking today....

it's a crazy concept....with one exception....man has always killed whilst working together using common sense and science to promote humans to where we exist today....

religion has only become a hurdle that will one day not exist....and today ain't that day

a little stinky fodder as the skies darken in the 'burg.....

A lack of religion won't eliminate the 'crazy' in humanity